Why did the shadow only want boys?

[spinninggold]

I think the shadow looks like a young wraith to be honest, different color eyes perhaps, but also afraid of light. (that’s why he dropped Bae) Now a wraith is a bound creature that goes after whoever is marked, unlike the shadow who seems to pick his own victims. In Neverland no one ages, so the shadow could suck energy from them forever. If he lives on their misery aka the tears they shed at night, having Wendy there could be a problem, because she most likely would comfort them, cheer them up, cutting off the shadow’s food supply. After all Peter chose Wendy as a mother to the lost boys in the original tale. Mothers comfort boys.

Now a few questions of my own. Bae seems to have landed on earth after all, in VICTORIAN London. That’s only about hundred years ago. So does time move differently here? Rumpelstiltskin searched for his son 300 years according to Robert Carlyle. Though we only see the last ten years of FTL so far usually, we have no idea how much time is between that, only that peasant Rumpel seemed to live in the middle ages, but really, present day FTL does not seem to be evolved much further.. So maybe he got it wrong?

Now my money is that “the bureau” started with the Darlings, so in a way Bae started it. (who is with me on that?) Was the shadow destroyed though? Greg and Tamara seem adament they destroyed magic before and somehow I don’t think that’s a reference to the dragon, who was only a minor player in all this. Hook comes back from Neverland just before the curse though, and Bae lands on earth. So does that suggest that somehow “the Bureau” destroyed Neverland. (To be honest I don’t like the Bureau much, I think it is a bit corny and a dime a dozen to add this to OUAT, and harms the originality of the show. It would have been far more exciting if Tamara and Greg were two loners that found eachother, in another form of destiny. Now we will be stuck with them for the rest of the series)

Last but not least…HOW DO THEY EXPECT TO WRAP THIS ALL UP IN ONE FINAL EPISODE OF 45 MINUTES! 😮 *scuse me*

[Keb]

The oddest bit of the time issue is that Wendy suggests time DOES move differently in NL–it felt like much LONGER than one night while she was gone. Which doesn’t really help the timeline one bit.

Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

[RumplesGirl]

Haven’t had a chance to read through everyone’s comments but my current theory (prompted by PriceofMagic in another thread) is that the shadow isn’t “evil” but rather very immature and wants friends. He also doesn’t want to lose these friends so he doesn’t let them leave.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[spinninggold]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

Haven’t had a chance to read through everyone’s comments but my current theory (prompted by PriceofMagic in another thread) is that the shadow isn’t “evil” but rather very immature and wants friends. He also doesn’t want to lose these friends so he doesn’t let them leave.

That does not make sense with why he would send back Wendy. She liked him at first, so why should he send her back? Unless her comforting the Lost Boys, like a good Wendy does, would mess up the Shadow’s plans.

Now, we have the Dark One, this black Shadow, the Wraith. We know that when the Blue Fairy messed up, the Dark One was created. We also know she likes to send her mishaps to Earth, thinking it will destroy them. What if half of the Dark One was already split off and sent to Earth, thinking it would destroy it, only it didn’t, because it was not bound to a person? It’s not controlled as far as we know. Unless either Tinkerbell is Blue Fairy’s evil twin who created the Shadow to do her bidding or Ariel is a mean witch as well as a mermaid…. or something along those lines,
H&K are very much into a balance of good and bad, yin and yang. Each time balance is lost, something major happens.

Maybe?

[RumplesGirl]

That does not make sense with why he would send back Wendy. She liked him at first, so why should he send her back? Unless her comforting the Lost Boys, like a good Wendy does, would mess up the Shadow’s plans.

Yes, the sending of Wendy back is an issue. It could be that the Shadow is only interested in having boys as friends.

Now, we have the Dark One, this black Shadow, the Wraith. We know that when the Blue Fairy messed up, the Dark One was created.

Do we know that about the BF for sure? I thought it was just a very popular theory? I don’t remember any kind of confirmation that the BF created the Dark One originally.

But I think you might on the right track with some stuff. People have suggested in other places that the Shadow is split off from Bae or was created by Rumple to find his son.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[kfchimera]

We don’t know for sure how the Dark One came to be. For all we know, it is something that came from NL itself!

What the BF says is that those powers don’t belong in FTL. We don’t know she likes to send “mishaps” to earth–she specifically sent Bae to a Land without Magic, but that is the only time we’ve seen her do that, and it is sort of implied she could only do it by bean. Plus the fairies only had one bean left.

So we’ve talked on other threads about the possible connections to the Shadow, Wraith, Dark One. I’ve narrowed it down to these:
1) the shadow split off from Bae as he went into the portal because Dark One Magic doesn’t mix well with fairy magic

2) Rumpel cast a spell to find Bae, and the shadow taking all the other boys is an unintended consequence

3) the shadow is a proto-wraith type thing, what it is like before magic captures it with the medalion and makes it do the bidding of whoever has the medallion. It came to earth because the bean portal ripped time and space and it just was an unintended and (unforeseen by BF) consequence (ie the price of magic) of Bae ‘s trip.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[spinninggold]

Neverland is already filled with lost boys, if the shadow did all that in 6 maybe 7 months then it was one busy shadow. That goes double for it being someone Rumpelstilskin made. Rumpel is still at the beginning of his magic and to whip something like that up in 6 months, kill his ex, and letting the shadow create a stash of boys seems mighty fast…. Although so far K&H do not seem too bothered with timelines so who knows?

It would be interesting to see them connect up all the dots to these Asian mythical creatures which so far seem to go unexplained, it would wrap up the season, connecting the first half of the season with the end.
Fortyfive (43 really) minutes seems far too little for that though.

[MysteryKat25]

I’m not sure the shadow was there that long. Didn’t Wendy say it arrived around the time Bae did? We saw 6 months later from the vortex to when he meets Wendy and when they’re found out Wendy says he’s been there for “weeks” (way to be vague) but it may not have been quite as big of a time span at least (though it’s still a lot).

In the official podcast they mentioned something about it seeming to follow him? Can somebody back me up on that? There was something about dark magic following him or something and it related to the shadow conversation and the fact that according to Wendy it arrived around the same time he did. I need to stop multitasking lol.

Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.

[RumplesGirl]

Wendy said the shadow showed up at the same time as Bae and in the podcast for this episode A and E said that the shadow came through at the same time, like it followed him. Which is…interesting.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[MysteryKat25]

Thanks RG. It’s definitely interesting. I think it pretty much cements the NealFire Pan stuff for next season. We'll just have to wait ages to see it play out but at least we're ending the season with a lot of that too. I have a feeling that this aspect of the story is so huge & important that it's going to need a lot of time to cover – bring on more Neverland!

Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.

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