Why did the shadow only want boys?

[HappyEndings]

@Gypsy wrote:

That still doesn’t answer the question as to why it didn’t get Bae before he went to Darlings house since he was in England for 6 months why did it wait

Maybe it couldn’t find him…???

What did Rumble do within that 6 month span to cause this shadow to come after Bae if he did cause it ❓
I really don’t trust what Wendy said but I could be wrong. 6 months latter PP caught up with Bae something isn’t right here in my opinion. ❓

[RumplesGirl]

And this is where the Rumple theory falls apart. H and K said in the podcast that the shadow followed Bae and that they arrived in London at the same time, so I don’t think Rumple made the Shadow but I DO think it’s an offshoot of Bae.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[HappyEndings]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

And this is where the Rumple theory falls apart. H and K said in the podcast that the shadow followed Bae and that they arrived in London at the same time, so I don’t think Rumple made the Shadow but I DO think it’s an offshoot of Bae.

So it still doesn’t answer the question why did it wait tell Bae got to the Darlings 6 months latter if it is connected to Bae he should have seen it way before the 6 months spam ❓

I hope they answer that question other wise what another big pot hole 😕

[RumplesGirl]

Not a clue. But I’ll just throw this out here and someone else can play off it:

Maybe it didn’t want Bae until it had collected a certain number of other boys?

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[HappyEndings]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

Not a clue. But I’ll just throw this out here and someone else can play off it:

Maybe it didn’t want Bae until it had collected a certain number of other boys?

Thanks for trying to help me figure this out RG 😛

[RumplesGirl]

I have no doubt that they will answer your question, but I don’t think it will be this season.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[TheGoldenKey]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

And this is where the Rumple theory falls apart. H and K said in the podcast that the shadow followed Bae and that they arrived in London at the same time, so I don’t think Rumple made the Shadow but I DO think it’s an offshoot of Bae.

What they said was that the shadow and Bae both showed up at Wendy’s at the exact same time, two weeks before hand. They went on to say that Bae went to a land without magic and that magic obviously followed him through they didn’t say at the exact same time. So, it could very well be that the shadow followed him through six months later.

I prefer to think along your lines RG. That means it’s part of Bae and keeps the NealFirePan theory afloat. However, I must say, this other theory has credence. It would imply that Rumple created the Lost Boys from having created a shadow that sought out the boys and brought them to Neverland. A relentless magic shadow, somewhat like a wraith, who’s purpose was to seek out lost boys in London in hopes that one of them would turn out to be Bae.

Oh no! My head is spinning again. 😮

Head is spin

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[RumplesGirl]

Here’s a question then: if it took Rumple 300 years for his abilities to become powerful enough to create/write/whatever he did to the Curse, were his abilities strong enough to create this creeptastic Shadow? His abilities right around the time Bae left were confined to turning people to snails and healing scrapes. He was still more physically violent than magically. Even the BF doubted his abilities.

*rubs head* Ouch. With the spinning.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[TheGoldenKey]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

Here’s a question then: if it took Rumple 300 years for his abilities to become powerful enough to create/write/whatever he did to the Curse, were his abilities strong enough to create this creeptastic Shadow? His abilities right around the time Bae left were confined to turning people to snails and healing scrapes. He was still more physically violent than magically. Even the BF doubted his abilities.

*rubs head* Ouch. With the spinning.

LOL! Seriously rubbing my head too in frustration! They are going to leave us with so much to spin around this summer, it’s unreal!

I wondered the very same thing. If he can send a magical shadow, then why not himself? Things that come to mind, off the top of my head, are that maybe he didn’t want to come at that point. Perhaps he thought he could reach out and draw Bae back to him through Neverland, thus retaining his power and magic.

We know that the scenes between Rumple, Milah and Hook took place shortly after Bae disappeared. Rumple did have the ability to take hearts back then. We also know from SB that he had an ability to summon a wraith, a shadow/spirit like entity, so maybe he could do the same with another shadowy entity though he didn’t have the ability to send a physical person through.

We also know that it took Bae about 150 years to get from the EF to turn of the century London. Rumple would have acquired a lot of knowledge and experience by then. PLUS, and this is the important thing, Rumple knew when to come and find Bae, in the real world. He could have known that Bae was in London back then as well.

Here’s another thought. What if Rumple sent his own shadow! 😆 😆 Have we been looking to see if Mr. Gold is missing anything that he hasn’t been able to procure in his pawn shop? 😮 😀

Ok, that’s it for me for a few hours. 😆 😆 Need a break from magic 🙂 Throwing it back to you RG 😀

Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.

[MysteryKat25]

Well hmm…I almost had an answer and then my head started spinning again.

*Rumple lets go of Bae
*Bae lands 150 years later in Victorian London
*6 months later Bae meets the Darling children
*Bae spends “weeks” with them
*Shadow takes Wendy to Neverland
*Shadow returns Wendy in exchange for one of the boys
*Bae sacrifices himself and travels to Neverland
*Bae is picked up by Hook & Smee

Here’s where I thought we were onto something and then got all discombobulated again. Bae fell through a verrrry long vortex so Rumple DID have a long time to work on his magic, be tracking Bae, coming up with various things etc. But then where does all the Hook stuff fit in?

*Hook meets Milah when Bae is a small child, they run off together
*Rumple becomes the Dark One
*Bae goes through the vortex
*Not much time passes (we think) and Hook kills Milah & cuts off Hook’s hand, causing Killian Jones to become Captain Hook
*Hook goes to Neverland
*Hook pulls Bae out of the water

Now, that seems simple, but the question is the timeline: how long has Hook been in Neverland at this point? We keep saying it can’t have been long after the Milah thing and because Bae is still 14 etc, reducing the timeline massively, but if it’s been 150 years for Bae then presumably it’s been the same for Hook (although time apparently passes differently in NL, BUT he went to Neverland a long time ago back when Bae was first 14, soon after he started his trip down the very long rabbit hole – I mean vortex).

So is it possible that Hook’s been hanging out in Neverland with Smee for a very long time at this point? Rather than the short gap that we keep supposing? I still think the Milah / hand thing probably happened not TOO long after Bae went through the vortex but at the same time Rumple could have learned a lot of dark magic before that happened and then he had 150 years to develop enough to possibly send some kind of magical tracking device after him in an attempt to find him which failed (in which case why didn’t the shadow just take him and run instead of going to Neverland unless Neverland is key in getting him back to the other realm – ie: our world doesn’t have magic so he can’t use a realm jumper from there). Also it sets up the idea that Hook possibly helps Bae avoid his father, like if he either goes to Neverland or the shadow thing is a magical tracking device of some sort and he manages to destroy it or conquer it or merge with it but be in control and get out of Neverland.

Oo what if…Rumple sends the magical tracking device shadow….Bae eventually merges with it (could take some time: learn to be a pirate, avoid land, fight against it etc etc + Neverland times works differently) then that alerts Rumple, he goes there after him but Hook helps hide / protect him and then Bae flees to a world without magic (our world again) and the magical tracking device shadow is mute because of the no magic thing? Then perhaps Rumple stays to collect squid ink etc etc. (There were discussions going on about this in the Rumple / Neverland thread and this just gave me an idea about it).

Anyway lots of questions but I do think the shadow wanted a specific boy (though maybe it by itself can’t tell which one but knew him to be staying at the Darling house?) and did what it had to in order to get Bae to Neverland for the next phase of the plan.

Wow my head is really spinning now!

Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.

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