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@HappyEndings wrote:
I don’t think Gold created anything to track Bae, remember both him and Regina didn’t know that Henry was Bae’s son and even Bae stated that he didn’t know about Emma’s family when he met her I think they said it was destiny was the answer I can’t remember.
But in any case that shadow should have contacted Bae way before he went to the Darlings house not 6 months latter which makes me wonder about another enitity that we aren’t aware of or they might just pass over the 6 months missing time span 😕
If the shadow came through 6 months after the fact, there would be no way to contact Bay. What if, as I said earlier, the trigger point was Bae saying his name out loud. Wendy did say “what an unusual name. Rumple’s whole story line is about saying one’s name out loud. So, for me the 6 months in between isn’t a issue.
If the shadow failed at controlling Bae in Neverland and if Rumple was never made aware that Bae was there, he would have no reason to pursue that avenue any longer. Perhaps the shadow can only locate lost children and not adults. Thus Rumple having to rely on other methods to find Bae, such as the Globe.
There are just so many possibilities. It’s fun conjecturing though 🙂
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@HappyEndings wrote:
did you see Bae didn’t dock the boat like Hook did they had to use a row boat to get to shore from Hook’s boat right ❓
You’ve mentioned that before, but I don’t think it is an important plot point. I’m not even sure what point you’re making with it actually. That he didn’t dock it doesn’t mean he couldn’t have docked it. I took it as they wanted to hide the JR a little more, by leaving it further out, rather than where someone like Belle could stumble into it closer at the shore. It’s not like they had a line where Neal says “We’ll have to row in, I can’t get the boat in closer.”
I doubt Gold had a tracking spell per se, but it is possible he created a creature like the shadow to follow Bae but that creature was eventually defeated. Since it didn’t work, he didn’t send another (because in the back of his mind after the conversation with the Seer, Rumpel probably always knew he would have to use a curse, even though he dabbled at finding alternative routes). I wonder just how much effort he put into these alternative routes–probably was like throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what stuck.
I also like the idea that Bae’s name is important. The original tale of Rumpel after all has its ending turn on a name.
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I also like the idea that Bae’s name is important. The original tale of Rumpel after all has its ending turn on a name.
Yes, especially since when we saw their version of the Rumple story, the name wasn’t important at all, yet in Manhattan he tells Emma that he traffics in names. What does that even mean when his name has never been his greatest secret?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"As I stated before Gold couldn’t even track Bae down in the States, and how Emma and Bae meet they stated only by destiny because they didn’t have an answer no I don’t think Rumble is involved in this on for a change.
Bae would have said his name out loud I am sure before the 6 months with the Darling so I don’t think that is it either. I also don’t think it would take 6 months for a shadow to catch up with you either besides Bae had no magic and the shadow does. Plus most shadows don’t have those gleeming eyes either. 😥
@RumplesGirl wrote:
I also like the idea that Bae’s name is important. The original tale of Rumpel after all has its ending turn on a name.
Yes, especially since when we saw their version of the Rumple story, the name wasn’t important at all, yet in Manhattan he tells Emma that he traffics in names. What does that even mean when his name has never been his greatest secret?
I think that is because he didn’t want his father to find him.
As for the boat issue usually if you are a Capt of a ship you know how to dock and the boat was invisible so no one could take it latter unless you know where the boat was. If you remember Red came out to meet Emma and the dock and it look like Emma just got out of a row boat.
Note: On the one preview it looks like the 3 lost boys coming on land in a row boat and maybe Bae is with them.
Plus most shadows don’t have those gleeming eyes either. 😥
Well I think we can surmise that is not a normal shadow at all. We’re calling it a shadow cause that’s what Wendy calls it, but I think it’s something much darker and creepier.
Bae would have said his name out loud I am sure before the 6 months with the Darling so I don’t think that is it either.
Maybe? The fact is we don’t know for certain. Maybe he only gave his true name to Wendy because she was kind to him. Maybe on other occasions he lied about his real name.
I also don’t think it would take 6 months for a shadow to catch up with you either besides Bae had no magic and the shadow does
What some other people are proposing is that Bae fell through the vortex in the blink of an eye for himself, but in reality it took 150 years in FTL so Rumple had time to develop his powers in order to send the shadow after Bae, and it took 6 months for the shadow to get to London, just like it took Bae a long time to get there.
Personally, I’d rather not have Rumple be the one who made this creeptastic thing. I want it to be another side of Bae, his spirit or essence or something, but that it’s darker because there is darkness in everyone. I think it lends more credence to the idea that Bae is PP.
I think that is because he didn’t want his father to find him.
I don’t know what you mean here. Rumple traffics in names, not Bae. Bae kept his name hidden to be sure so his father wouldn’t find him, but this is turning the Rumple story on it’s head. Instead of Rumple’s name being the source of power, it’s Bae telling someone his own name that holds a magic key, as it were.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@RumplesGirl wrote:
I also like the idea that Bae’s name is important. The original tale of Rumpel after all has its ending turn on a name.
Yes, especially since when we saw their version of the Rumple story, the name wasn’t important at all, yet in Manhattan he tells Emma that he traffics in names. What does that even mean when his name has never been his greatest secret?
Which brings us back to this little scene in Manhattan:
(The trio has entered the lobby of the apartment building. Henry scans the list of names on the intercom.)
Henry: No ‘Baelfire’.
Emma: Yeah, that probably wouldn’t fly as an alias. Your magic globe didn’t give you an apartment number?
Mr. Gold: It doesn’t work that way.
(Emma and Mr. Gold take a turn at looking at the list.)
Emma: Do any of these names mean anything to you?
Mr. Gold: Well, names are what I traffic in, but sadly, no.
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Names are important and powerful in the show. Emma’s name was powerful enough to wake Rumple from the curse, for example. He collects them as a matter of course–Jiminy delivers both objects and the names of their owners. Rumple knows the name of Hansel and Gretel’s cursed father–possibly partly because he knew of the compass, or because it was right in front of him at the time. And he couldn’t find Robin Hood properly without both the bow and the name that he got from the Sheriff. The true name of the Dark One is written on the dagger and Rumple can apparently be summoned through his name (if he wants to be).
Just because he didn’t use it as a secret password to get out of Cora’s contract doesn’t mean they’re not really important and really powerful in the series.
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don’t know what you mean here. Rumple traffics in names, not Bae. Bae kept his name hidden to be sure so his father wouldn’t find him, but this is turning the Rumple story on it’s head. Instead of Rumple’s name being the source of power, it’s Bae telling someone his own name that holds a magic key, as it were.
Remember Bae ran when August typed out his real name because he didn’t want his father to know where he was plus he was on the run why would you use your real name if you are stealing etc.
Also, if Rumble was to powerful to create this then why did he need Regina to start his curse. ❓
@HappyEndings wrote:
don’t know what you mean here. Rumple traffics in names, not Bae. Bae kept his name hidden to be sure so his father wouldn’t find him, but this is turning the Rumple story on it’s head. Instead of Rumple’s name being the source of power, it’s Bae telling someone his own name that holds a magic key, as it were.
Remember Bae ran when August typed out his real name because he didn’t want his father to know where he was plus he was on the run why would you use your real name if you are stealing etc.
Neal never ran away from AWB when he showed him the page with his name typed on it nor did AWB threaten to tell Rumple/Gold where Neal was. So I don’t understand where this is coming from.
AWB told Neal all about the curse, SB and how it was Emma’s destiny to go break the curse and save all the people of SB. Neal gave up his own needs and wants to save everyone in SB. It was an unselfish act on his part and just as he sacrificed himself for the Darling boys, he did it so again, for everyone in SB. He did it a third time, for Emma and Henry last Sunday.
This was confirmed by Adam and Eddy during the podcast yesterday. 🙂
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