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I believe you are referring to Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire where Volide cam back to his true form with a potion made from flesh of a servant, bone of a father, and blood of the enemy (which was Harry).
Yes, thank you RG 🙂
[adrotate group="5"]I believe that Greg was one of the Lost Ones after his father was kidnapped and killed by Regina. His life parallels Bae’s in that he has no family to go to and he is wandering the earth alone. Not to mention, both of them had been in the presence of magic which may have made them a target for the shadow. It is quite possible in my mind that the shadow took Owen/Greg as a child and brought him to Neverland. After being denied by Peter Pan just like Bae was, Owen joined to cult of boys to help find Henry.
Maybe the shadow/Peter Pan brought Owen/Greg back to our world so he could search for Henry himself. He was shown the picture of the boy and sent on a mission to find him. But being back in our world made Greg continued his old mission to find his father rather than Pan’s journey to find Henry. This is how he stumbled upon the home office (which I do believe is completely separate from PP and the Lost Ones). When finally entering Storybrooke, Greg was faced with both of his missions – the home office’s mission of destroying magic, and PP mission of bringing Henry back to him.
It was Greg’s plan to accomplish both missions – destroy Storybrooke while taking Henry to Pan.
Now, as for Tamara, I am not sure how or why she knows about Henry… this part I am still working on.
Interesting, so Greg became a double agent of sorts for the H.O.? Perhaps he is going to take Henry to Pan so the H.O. can then destroy NL too? Perhaps Tamara is how he got caught up with the H.O.–perhaps she originally hunted Greg when he came back to the Land Without Magic, but realizing he was not inherently magical, just had been stolen then they …I can’t say fell in love. Got together let’s say.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
According to Wendy, the shadow started appearing around the same time Bae arrived. So perhaps he was combing London for boys because he can sense blood lines and obviously Baelfire is Henry’s father… kind of like the globe, it leads you to blood relatives… so he was combing through the homes of London because he knew at least that was the general area… ?
This is such an amazing unexpected twist!!Keeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.
I wonder if all the “Lost ones” have had their shadows ripped by Peter Pan, hence them knowing what he did. They also seem slightly psychotic, perhaps the consequence of having no shadow. Also we never saw the “Lost ones” during the day, only at night, so we can’t see if they have shadows or not.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of Felix@CrownedWithLaurels wrote:
According to Wendy, the shadow started appearing around the same time Bae arrived. So perhaps he was combing London for boys because he can sense blood lines and obviously Baelfire is Henry’s father… kind of like the globe, it leads you to blood relatives… so he was combing through the homes of London because he knew at least that was the general area… ?
This is such an amazing unexpected twist!!It’d be something along those lines, yes. Peter was expecting the boy to come from The Land Without Magic, so only when Bae arrived there did he became a target. Had he remained in FTL he’d likely never have come to PP’s attention.
@KFChimera wrote:
Interesting, so Greg became a double agent of sorts for the H.O.?
Exactly! Except my thought was that Greg didn’t realize he was a double agent until he saw Henry. He went to Storybrooke to destroy magic, then he saw Henry and remembered his mission for PP. He never expected to find Henry in SB. He attempted to accomplish both missions by enacting the diamond which would destroy magic, all while taking Henry to PP He would be a hero for both causes.
I know a lot of people think that the H.O and PP are the same person, but I have to admit that I think they are two separate people. PP doesnt seem to want to destroy magic, he is just looking to find Henry. I think the H.O. was created by “muggles” if you will, and PP is completely separate from that. I am still so on the idea that the H.O was started by Wendy.
It’s still confusing for me what exactly was going on with GOAT. I get why she pretended to be Neal ‘s fiance–but what made the writers include this scene of Tamara telling Greg to not be jealous? Why underscore that Greg has doubts about whether Tamara has feelings for Neal? Are there some more missing puzzle pieces here–because it seems odd for Tamara and Greg to on the one hand say “your kind” in this derogatory way they do to Hook and Regina, and then for Greg to have doubts about Tamara ‘s feelings toward Neal. If they have a prejudice against storybook/magical people–why is Greg worried Tamara would fall for one, or why is she worried that he would think that?
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
@KFChimera wrote:
It’s still confusing for me what exactly was going on with GOAT. I get why she pretended to be Neal ‘s fiance–but what made the writers include this scene of Tamara telling Greg to not be jealous? Why underscore that Greg has doubts about whether Tamara has feelings for Neal? Are there some more missing puzzle pieces here–because it seems odd for Tamara and Greg to on the one hand say “your kind” in this derogatory way they do to Hook and Regina, and then for Greg to have doubts about Tamara ‘s feelings toward Neal. If they have a prejudice against storybook/magical people–why is Greg worried Tamara would fall for one, or why is she worried that he would think that?
You mean that one in the beginning of “Second Star to the Right”? It was just a plot device for Greg to show Tamara the diamond of doom.
If it were just a plot device, they could just show each other the diamond of doom, no need to have that extra dialog of “don’t be jealous” and all that.
I have to rewatch it–but do they talk about Neal in front of Hook? Maybe that’s how he knew Neal = Bae.
I’m just trying to figure out whether the “hate magic” was an act they put on for show to keep Hook of all people (someone who had been in NL) from guessing they were connected with PP?
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
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