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@Kellyn1604 wrote:
Time might not flow the same in FTL as it does here…100 years there might be two weeks here. Also, did the giants have magic? I bet Rumple will be able to help the process when he gets back. I am assuming his magic loss is just because he was outside of storybrooke.
People keep coming back to the idea of time running differently in FTL and SB. Which I think is how they might explain it, but time seemed to move exactly the same when Snow and Emma were trapped in FTL back at the start of this season.
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@RumplesGirl wrote:
@EvilQueen wrote:
Didn’t someone mention it takes 100 years to grow the beans????
YES! The Head Giant said so in the first bit of the flashback which is why I am so confused with this whole bean thing.
Maybe the Outsider Greg Mendel is a bean expert and helps out? (Had jut posted same thought on different thread).
I thought he might be the author of Henry's book, but I also like the theory that he will be involved with Anton's beanstalk in some way because of his name. Maybe he'll be a part of both stories?
Even if Cora is dispatched this season, which I'm fairly confident she will be, I think that there will still be threats involving other nefarious characters getting a hold of the beans, so maybe that's why Greg and possibly HER will be around next season. Maybe Greg's a harmless enough person now, aside from knowing that magic exists if he really is just a regular person, but the thought of gaining access to and then control of the beans, could cause him to go dark and into villain territory.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
@Kellyn1604 wrote:
Time might not flow the same in FTL as it does here…100 years there might be two weeks here. Also, did the giants have magic? I bet Rumple will be able to help the process when he gets back. I am assuming his magic loss is just because he was outside of storybrooke.
People keep coming back to the idea of time running differently in FTL and SB. Which I think is how they might explain it, but time seemed to move exactly the same when Snow and Emma were trapped in FTL back at the start of this season.
Yeah, I know it’s a really shaky idea but it’s the best I got because I have no idea how they plan to grow a crop that takes a 100 years and actually get to use it. I am sure they will use some sort of magic to help speed up the process.
If Cora gets her hand on some magic beans and then kidnaps Henry with Regina…we could have quite the chase across worlds.
Isn’t Oz and Neverland suppose to come into play at some point? (Though Neverland is likely to be in Hook’s flashback). All of a sudden magic beans are being grown which can travel between worlds. Coincidence? I think not.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixI thought he might be the author of Henry's book, but I also like the theory that he will be involved with Anton's beanstalk in some way because of his name. Maybe he'll be a part of both stories?
Even if Cora is dispatched this season, which I'm fairly confident she will be, I think that there will still be threats involving other nefarious characters getting a hold of the beans, so maybe that's why Greg and possibly HER will be around next season. Maybe Greg's a harmless enough person now, aside from knowing that magic exists if he really is just a regular person, but the thought of gaining access to and then control of the beans, could cause him to go dark and into villain territory.
Ok, I really like this Aunt Bee. Because I agree. Cora most likely will be gone at the end of this season, but we still need to have a baddie for the next season and having a magic bean stalk that can take you to other realms ALSO means that other can come here, thus ensuring more evil villans.
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@EvilQueen wrote:
Didn’t someone mention it takes 100 years to grow the beans????
YES! The Head Giant said so in the first bit of the flashback which is why I am so confused with this whole bean thing. I think Cora wants them to go conqueror other realms because she’s power hungry, but the bean thing makes no sense given what the Giant said. And, has anyone figured out HOW these beans work??? One took NealFire to our land, but one took Hook to Neverland. These beans really need some more explanation, as does a lot of portal jumping.
DOES CORA KNOW THAT IT TAKES 100 years? It would be just like her to not know … maybe she does know and plans to use magic to speed up the growth of the bean stalk and beans.
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.I honestly hope it is that Cora does not know rather than her using a spell to speed up the process. I don’t know it would be nice to see her not being able to do something rather than being like “I use this awesome magic now.” There are times where I feel as if they are over-empowering her slightly in the sense in that she might have learned magic from different realms but it would take years to be a master of any given craft. She might lift the spells from a book but it takes practice and dedication… Because then if she knows how then why didn’t she simply use her magic to wreak havoc and have it done and over with? Unless she is powering up and gathering items for a rather large curse/spell….
I like the idea of Mendell being connected to the beanstalk and maybe becoming a villain because of it.
@Kellyn1604 wrote:
@RumplesGirl wrote:
@Kellyn1604 wrote:
If Cora gets her hand on some magic beans and then kidnaps Henry with Regina…we could have quite the chase across worlds.
It could be like in Hook where Emma and Neal travel to other worlds in an epic quest to regain their son.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
@Kellyn1604 wrote:
Time might not flow the same in FTL as it does here…100 years there might be two weeks here.
That is a good point. There is a Jack in the Beanstalk movie that is like that, even! Although it’s the opposite way, time passes more quickly in the real world than in giant land. But Emma went up to Giant Land with her 10 hour limit and time definitely didn’t pass differently in FTL and seemingly not in SB either. So I think this is out.
No one, not even Anton who should know, seemed to be bothered, that it might take a while for the beans to grow, they were only worried about Cora’s plans. What makes me think that the time it will take to grow the beans is not an issue at all.
RumplesGirl and Riddleraven already pointed out, that what we have seen this season speaks against time running differently in the Enchanted Forest or in the land of the Giants. So see two options:
1. If the beans take a century to grow and yield fruit they will have to find some way, magic or science, to speed up the grow of the beans. Another possibility is, that simply the soil of our world works differently on the beans so they grow faster (but doesn’t count that as an extra option). But wouldn’t have anyone at least worried for a second about it, if the beans would grow fast enough for them to use them?
2. It never has taken the beans a century to grow.
Arlo: Today we celebrate. After a century of hard labor the time of the bean harvest has finally arrived.
That is what is said about the beans and time it took till harvest. The wording is open for interpretation. Could mean it took the beans 100 years to grow and yield fruit. But as well it’s possible, that it took the giants 99 years to prepare the land before they could plant the beans. They obviously had contacts with humans before and traded beans with them, so it was quite sure not the first harvest ever. What made me wonder a little, if eventually the attack by Jack and James was not the first attack on the giants and not the first time they destroyed the beanstalks and burned the land they grow on, so they had to rebuild. Mentioning, that it took them a century of hard labor before this harvest was maybe just to emphasize how dedicated they are to their work.
It’s a simple explanation, no fiddling with time or magic necessary. 😉 Of course possible, the writers made a mistake.
@Phee wrote:
I think she just wants ALL the powers from ALL the lands. They made a point of establishing that the humans had used the giant’s beans to plunder other lands, which I think is basically what Cora wants to do. I think that her lust for power is so overwhelming, that the only way to stop her will be to kill her. I’d like to see Regina do that, because it’d be a nice little parallel to how she killed her father. Back then, she killed a parent to doom everyone. Now, she’ll have to kill a parent to save everyone.
Pretty much agree with you, why Cora wants the beans. They offer power. We don’t know how much the magical lands have been affected by the Dark Curse, if all have been pretty much devasted as much as the Enchanted Forest, or not. There might be not much left to conquer, but the lands had magic, still seem to have some magic, and that is interesting enough for anyone able to use magic who is seeking power and control. Not to mention Cora can count on people wanting to go home, so imagine what power it would give her, if she could offer a way back home.
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