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October 2, 2013 at 10:54 am #213512SlurpeezParticipant
slurpeez108 wrote: That is why I prefer to think that Pan needs Henry’s figurative heart instead to fuel magic or to, as someone said, replenish Pan’s own belief. I like the idea that Pan’s own skepticism has grown over the years and he needs Henry to help bolster belief in him again.
Interesting. But if he now knows that Henry has the heart of the truest believer, what more could he need from him? Is he going to continually test Henry’s faith and belief?
Friends who spend a lot of time together start to rub off on one another and their attitudes and mannerisms start to get picked up by each other. Maybe Pan really does want Henry to join him, so that Henry’s belief starts to rub off on Pan and to rekindle a level of belief that Peter Pan might have lost over the centuries. I also think that Emma’s maternal love is going to figure in here somehow. I’m just not yet sure how or in what capacity. Pan wants Emma to find Henry for some reason. So that means Henry is safe, and that PP wants his family to find him. “Family always finds each other” is going to be important to what PP wants.
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October 2, 2013 at 11:39 am #213513Sarah_TNParticipantI think Pan wants a family. That is what this show is all about. That would fit very well with what we know about our characters’ motivations; even the so-called villains really just want a family. Neal said, “Believe it or not, dear old dad was all about family.” That would fit very well with what we know about our characters’ motivations; even the so-called villains really just want a family. PP probably isn’t so very different. Henry said, “My family is different. We always find each other.” Maybe that is what PP wants, a family reunion.
Peter must see something very special in Henry. He has something he doesn’t. My first assumption was that they wanted Henry dead, but I don’t think so. Remember how the evil queen could control those, whose hearts she kept? This is just a theory, and I might be light years off the mark from where the writers are going, but my theory is that this has something to do with Henry, and Peter’s (assuming it’s Peter’s) shadow. I think the plans Peter has for them both are none too wholesome.
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October 2, 2013 at 2:01 pm #213529SlurpeezParticipantslurpeez108 wrote: I think Pan wants a family. That is what this show is all about. That would fit very well with what we know about our characters’ motivations; even the so-called villains really just want a family. Neal said, “Believe it or not, dear old dad was all about family.” That would fit very well with what we know about our characters’ motivations; even the so-called villains really just want a family. PP probably isn’t so very different. Henry said, “My family is different. We always find each other.” Maybe that is what PP wants, a family reunion.
Peter must see something very special in Henry. He has something he doesn’t. My first assumption was that they wanted Henry dead, but I don’t think so. Remember how the evil queen could control those, whose hearts she kept? This is just a theory, and I might be light years off the mark from where the writers are going, but my theory is that this has something to do with Henry, and Peter’s (assuming it’s Peter’s) shadow. I think the plans Peter has for them both are none too wholesome.
Oh, I think PP is certainly menacing and his idea of family is distorted. I am saying that like most of the other villains we’ve seen on this show (with the possible exception of Cora, who was literally heartless), what motivates Rumple, Hook and Regina is actually a desire for love (even if that desire has been distorted). Regina tried to fill a void in her life with her son, Henry, Hook tried to avenge his lost love, Milha, and Rumple was all about finding his son, Bae, for centuries.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
October 6, 2013 at 3:18 am #214190James HookParticipantI have a really weird theory on this.
I’ts probably unfounded, but Tinkerbell hasn’t been introduced in the series yet.
Peter said he needs “The Heart of A True Believer”
And we all know that when Tink drank the poison Hook gave Peter in the old stories, it was people clapping as a symbol of their belief or the chant “I do believe in fairies.”
Is it possible that Peter wants the heart of a believer because something horrible has happened to Tinkerbell?
I don’t know. Its just a strange thought I had.
But who knows, Peter is obviously really devious.
This could all possibly be just a huge game for his and the Lost Boys amusement.October 6, 2013 at 5:26 am #214192kfchimeraParticipantI think the idea of Peter looking for family, but with a twisted sense of it may prove to be an element here. Why does Peter only want boys? We thought it was to find the boy in the picture but are there any Lost Girls in his tribe?
We know that the title refers to Emma. I wonder if it also might have hints to this.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
October 6, 2013 at 8:52 am #214199RumplesGirlKeymasters it possible that Peter wants the heart of a believer because something horrible has happened to Tinkerbell?
Anything is possible at this point. I do think that Peter’s need for the HotTB is less selfish and more to do with needing to heal/fix something–Tink, NL, his own self doubt.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 6, 2013 at 9:24 am #214209obisgirlParticipantIt’s small but it pretty much spells out why Pan needs Henry and it’s close to what I was thinking too.
THE LOST BOY | Peter Pan (played by Robbie Kay) has thus far only hinted at the broad strokes of his plan for Henry, but here is how Jared Gilmore sums it up: “The Lost Boys and Peter Pan want Henry to save magic… because magic is dying [in Neverland].” And that is a bad thing because…? “If magic is fading, maybe they’re getting older,” Gilmore guesses. “Then they can’t stay young forever in Neverland.”
October 6, 2013 at 9:29 am #214212kfchimeraParticipantI agee Obisgirl.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
October 6, 2013 at 11:10 am #214229SlurpeezParticipantIt’s small but it pretty much spells out why Pan needs Henry and it’s close to what I was thinking too.
Thanks for sharing! That is an excellent spoiler.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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