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If I recall correctly, when Tink showed Regina her “soul mate” was in the tavern, we saw the tattoo, but no one ever said that Robin was the soul mate, or that whomever had the tattoo was Robin, it was just assumed. Perhaps, Robin and Regina are mistaking physical attraction for destiny when instead, she has yet to meet her real soul mate. We never did see a face in the tavern. The tattoo was easily seen, but not much else.
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We never did see a face in the tavern.
No we didn’t, but it’s pretty unmistakeably Sean Maguire’s head IMO, (he’s got a longer, kinda squareish shaped head that’s pretty distinct).
If they wanna go and say that the pixie dust got it wrong, I think they’d have to do something like say that because it was stolen it was tainted and thereby caused Regina to steal someone else’s soulmate. But I doubt they’ll go that route.
1. Wow…some folks are really reading too much into the whole true love/soul mate thing! It’s a show about Fairy Tales, of course we’re going to have true love/soul mates! I mean if we’re going to kick down OutlawQueen’s Soul Mate status, and claim that something is seriously wrong with it, then shouldn’t that speak the same for Rumbelle, Snowing, CaptainSwan/SwanFire?
2. They can never come back and say Robin wasn’t the man chosen by Pixie Dust because it’s already been confirmed by both Adam and Eddy, and Sean and Lana, not to mention this lovely picture below…
3. Okay…so the only thing that irks people with OutlawQueen is the whole affair thing. Something Snowing once did, but everyone eventually got over that.
Another thing people say is that it was too fast.
Ummm….yeah….Snowing actually fell in love in one day. Apparently that love was strong enough for Charming was ready to quit his engagement, and run off into the field of daisies with Snow, after only knowing her for one day.
SwanFire technically hit off the first day they met too….
The reason OutlawQueen were able to fall in love so quickly is because of the soul mate thing! A bond that quickly draws both parties in, and doesn’t take too long to fall in love. As for the lust and attraction part, they can’t help it they were born hot! Robin can bring out some good in Regina, and Regina can bring out some bad in Robin! It balances out! Together, they’re like two grinning adorable teenage idiots!
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And might I add…FINALLY! EvilRegals FINALLY have a character whose willing to fight for Regina!
And this is my favorite one….some say that because Regina killed Marian, that she doesn’t really deserve Robin.
Okay….Rumbelle….was Rumple not the one who first took Belle in as his own slave of sorts? Made her do everything around the castle and then proceeded to lock her in her dungeons? It wasn’t till probably a month later that they started to fall in love, after Belle had been the slave to the Beast?
Was Emma not about to be killed by Hook in both the EF and SB? And did Neal not trust in that stupid Pinocchio, and abandon Emma? Did Mary Margret not have an affair with David Nolan behind Kathryn’s back, and made the poor woman think something was wrong with her instead of fessing up to the truth?
Every ship has their ups and downs, most likely due to the people being different people at the time. Everyone’s changed! Regina was the Evil Queen when she killed Marian, who could’ve gotten out of it might I add, and she’s shown her remorse by not only saving this woman’s life once, but twice! And now working really hard to save her a third time!
4. Robin is a “douche bag”
Let’s set the record straight on this one shall we?
You all wanted him to go back to Marian right? He did it…he left the woman who really held his heart, and went back to his wife whose been dead for about 30+ years now. Now…can you imagine the conflict he felt the two days he was with Marian? A Woman he no longer loved, but only thought of as a good friend? Constantly tortured because of the “Code” that had not only broken the heart of the woman he truly loved, but had brought him misery!
A lot of you say he should have confessed to Marian, but the woman had just been knocked upside the head with a log, and dragged 30+ years into the future into a new land by Emma! Him going back to Marian was expected, if even just to get her accustomed and settled into the new land, and it was because of his “Code” that he felt he was stuck in the marriage with Marian, obviously because no one has explained divorce to him, that’s if he needs one!
And when Ingrid(who I wonder is an OQ Shipper?) freezes Marian…what do you all expect him to do? Sit there and coddle Marian, rubbing her frozen hands and feet till she defrosts? Bring Roland to play hide and go seek with his ice cold mother? What did you all expect him to do? He doesn’t love Marian anymore, even he knew that his true love’s kiss wouldn’t work, and he only tried it because he was practically put on the spot by everyone else!
Snowing’s affair carried on for WEEKS, OutlawQueen’s only carried on for about four days! And everyone uses the excuse Snowing were really married, and they just didn’t know to excuse them, but are ready to burn OutlawQueen at the stake! A tad hypocritical if I may add because cursed or not, Snowing had an affair! And frankly, if everyone can get over that month or two long affair, then it should be just as easily to get over OutlawQueen’s four day affair!
Regina is Robin’s confirmed soul mate, it’s their destiny to have their happily ever after! And it appears even Fate/The Sorcerer even agrees hence we find the missing page! And again, take it as you will…one or two things happened, either someone erased those events from their heads, or someone just rewrote history to suit the current time line. That page was clear proof that something did happen that night!
Not only did they have so far the best/steamiest scene in the series, but Robin and Regina’s scene was yet again voted by SpoilerTV the best scene from Sunday Night!
5. Roland…
People try to use this poor kid as an excuse to justify why Robin should go back to Marian, when frankly he seemed to use Regina name to get what he wanted….I think some of that Mills Cleverness rubbed off on him.
I mean let’s face facts…Roland seemed happier walking down that street with OutlawQueen then with Robin and Marian. The kid maybe young, but he’s not dumb… Dang, I wish I could find that photo comparison!!!!
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Here’s where the affair really gets to me, WR:
With Snowing, it was ugly and awful but Snowing getting back together ultimately restored happy endings for all the parties directly involved (including Snowing’s daughter, who finally got to know her parents). Frederick and Abigail ultimately benefited from Snowing being reunited.
There is, with the present setup, no way for Marian to benefit from this affair. Her true love is also Robin Hood, and she certainly didn’t get 30 (or even 5) years to get over him.
For Regina to have a happy ending with Robin requires someone else to lose their happy ending. And that’s been her destructive belief from the moment she daydreamed about killing a preteen Snow White: that for her to have a happy ending, someone else has to suffer. She undoubtedly got that belief, along with love being weakness, from her mother, who used her power to make her own daughter suffer for the happy ending she wanted.
But that doesn’t make it right. There is no good ending for Marian here, and if she’s suffering, her son suffers too in some ways.
The pixie dust doesn’t fix the fact that OQ hurts Marian at this point, no matter what. Regina’s happy ending shouldn’t require anyone else to suffer.
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I dont think its fair to compare Snow/David/Kathryn to Regina/Robin/Marian. The thing is Snow and David were actually married and True Loves. Kathryn/David only happened because Regina pulled some magical mumbo to make David THINK Kathryn was his wife. We as an audience know David was never with and never loved Kathryn. Thats different with Robin and Marian who were really married and were really in love. We can’t say its “wrong” that David cheated with Snow when he was with Kathryn because we know the truth.
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Technically Marian would benefit greatly from losing Robin, because it would allow her the chance to go and find her OWN happy ending! Robin Hood, according to Fate, was never really Marian’s to begin with….he’s not her soul mate! They probably were true loves 30+ years ago, but not anymore!
Marian’s just gonna have to go and find herself a new man…and quite frankly, we still have no idea what happened between her and Sheriff of Nottingham…for all we know Robin could have wooed her away from him!
There is no good ending for Marian here, and if she’s suffering, her son suffers too in some ways. The pixie dust doesn’t fix the fact that OQ hurts Marian at this point, no matter what. Regina’s happy ending shouldn’t require anyone else to suffer.
As I stated above, Marian can go find the man who was MEANT for her! And please don’t bring Roland into this because he was much happier with the way things were before Emma screwed it up, and yes Marian is his mother, but he’s suffering now because he sees how tense things are with his parents! Roland liked Regina with his daddy…and he’d probably like whoever Marian falls in love with after Robin.
And as for Regina’s happy ending requiring someone else to suffer, HELLO, Snowing’s Happy Ending caused Regina to suffer! Snow White telling Cora about Daniel, who was killed because of Snow’s betrayal….thus really starting the whole darkness in Regina, which Rumple harvested! Regina being Snow’s step mother, who she later sent on the run which caused Snowing to even meet in the first place! Had Regina not suffered, there would be no Snowing, no Emma, no SwanFire/CaptainSwan, and no Henry! Regina practically suffered for everybody’s happy ending to come about!
I dont think its fair to compare Snow/David/Kathryn to Regina/Robin/Marian. The thing is Snow and David were actually married and True Loves. Kathryn/David only happened because Regina pulled some magical mumbo to make David THINK Kathryn was his wife. We as an audience know David was never with and never loved Kathryn. Thats different with Robin and Marian who were really married and were really in love. We can’t say its “wrong” that David cheated with Snow when he was with Kathryn because we know the truth.
And I don’t think it’s fair to sanctify one affair over the other! Because technically, Snowing weren’t married in SB during the first curse, so it still counted as an affair. Kathryn was still hurt, Snow was still the other woman, and David was still caught in a tug of war! An affair is an affair, cursed or not! Then the fact that Snowing carried at least two months worth of an affair, whereas OutlawQueen has only had two to four days!
And just as we know the truth, David was supposed to be with Snow with the Kathryn situation, then we know the truth Robin was supposed to be with Regina in this Marian situation. You can’t say one is right and the other is wrong when they’re both the SAME situation.
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Okay, first of all @WickedRegal this is a “Why I can’t ship OutlawQueen” thread. The clue is in the title. It’s not going to be pro-OutlawQueen. The idea was to contain much of the negativity about OQ to one thread so that it does not constantly derail other threads though I will still mention my dislike for things OQ does in the favourite/least favourite moments thread. This thread just houses the detail. People shouldn’t be berated for disliking OQ in a thread with a title that specifically states what it is going to be about.
1. Wow…some folks are really reading too much into the whole true love/soul mate thing! It’s a show about Fairy Tales, of course we’re going to have true love/soul mates! I mean if we’re going to kick down OutlawQueen’s Soul Mate status, and claim that something is seriously wrong with it, then shouldn’t that speak the same for Rumbelle, Snowing, CaptainSwan/SwanFire?
The difference between OutlawQueen and RumBelle, Snowing, CaptainSwan and SwanFire is that we were SHOWN all the other couples actually building an emotional connection whereas with OutlawQueen we’re TOLD that it is meant to be. You can not force an audience to like a pairing without first showing them at least why they should like a pairing. Also, in the case of RumBelle and Snowing, their pairings were already “canon” ie Beauty and the Beast/Snow White and the Prince so the audience is more accepting of them because it was more about showing how they got to that point and what happens after the “happily ever after”. CS and SF had to build up a connection between each character and was quite divisive as the CSF triangle proved, they couldn’t really rely on being historically “canon”. Marian and Robin are historically “canon” hence why, if the writers really wanted to push OQ as the better option, they needed to SHOW the audience WHY they should ship OQ instead of going with a lazy “because pixie dust said so”
2. They can never come back and say Robin wasn’t the man chosen by Pixie Dust because it’s already been confirmed by both Adam and Eddy, and Sean and Lana,
Again, “because pixie dust said so” is a lazy way to stick two characters together without taking the time to build up an emotional connection between them first.
3. Okay…so the only thing that irks people with OutlawQueen is the whole affair thing. Something Snowing once did, but everyone eventually got over that.
Whilst Snow being Charming’s actual wife only slightly improves the Snow/David/Kathryn triangle, MM fully expected David to tell Kathryn what was going on. David lied to MM about telling Kathryn.
Another thing people say is that it was too fast.
Ummm….yeah….Snowing actually fell in love in one day. Apparently that love was strong enough for Charming was ready to quit his engagement, and run off into the field of daisies with Snow, after only knowing her for one day.
SwanFire technically hit off the first day they met too….
Charming and Abigail were having an arranged marriage. Charming didn’t want to do it anyway but was threatened with George harming his mother if he didn’t. Abigail was still mourning Frederick. Neither party particularly wanted to marry the other. Charming and Snow connected when they fought trolls together and Snow saved Charming. Charming had previously said to his mother he only wanted to marry for love. Abigail helped Charming reunite with Snow and he helped reunite her with Frederick. Neither Charming or Abigail loved each other so when he broke off the engagement, nobody was hurt.
SwanFire went on a date, it went well. Emma had nowhere else to go so she might as well hang around with Neal for a bit. Tallahassee featured unspecified time jumps. There is no way that Emma, who has trouble trusting people, would suddenly jump into bed and put all her faith and trust in a guy she just met.
The reason OutlawQueen were able to fall in love so quickly is because of the soul mate thing! A bond that quickly draws both parties in, and doesn’t take too long to fall in love. As for the lust and attraction part, they can’t help it they were born hot! Robin can bring out some good in Regina, and Regina can bring out some bad in Robin! It balances out! Together, they’re like two grinning adorable teenage idiots!
One person bringing out bad in the other isn’t a good thing. It’s a sign of a destructive relationship and that the one bringing out the bad in the other has to either shape up or ship out.
And might I add…FINALLY! EvilRegals FINALLY have a character whose willing to fight for Regina!
And who is this character you speak of? All I’ve seen Robin do is make Regina his second choice and when his first option hasn’t worked out as he hoped, he’s now reduced Regina to being the “other woman”.
And this is my favorite one….some say that because Regina killed Marian, that she doesn’t really deserve Robin.
Is it morally right for a murderer to hook up with her victim’s husband? No. Would people accept CS if Emma had murdered Milah? Robin loved Marian. Fact. Regina is the reason why Marian was no longer available to continue her marriage or raise her son. Fact. Would Robin have even looked at Regina if Marian had been alive all along? Extremely doubtful.
Nobody is saying Regina should never have romantic love, but hooking up with the husband of one of her murder victims is in bad taste.
Okay….Rumbelle….was Rumple not the one who first took Belle in as his own slave of sorts? Made her do everything around the castle and then proceeded to lock her in her dungeons? It wasn’t till probably a month later that they started to fall in love, after Belle had been the slave to the Beast?
First off, Rumple and Belle made a deal that she would be the caretaker of the dark castle. Belle made the deal of her own free will despite her father telling her not to. Her exact words were “No one decides my fate but me”. The deal was in effect an exchange of services between Rumple and Belle: Rumple stops the ogre war in exchange for Belle being his house keeper. Rumple and Belle never expected to fall in love with each other. Their relationship was really an employer and employee falling in love. Rumple let Belle go but she CHOSE to go back to him. Belle was never Rumple’s slave.
Was Emma not about to be killed by Hook in both the EF and SB? And did Neal not trust in that stupid Pinocchio, and abandon Emma? Did Mary Margret not have an affair with David Nolan behind Kathryn’s back, and made the poor woman think something was wrong with her instead of fessing up to the truth?
The whole Emma/Hook and Emma/Neal situation is still debated amongst the CS and SF factions of the fandom which shows that it isn’t just whitewashed. MM wanted David to tell Kathryn the truth. It was David who lied.
Every ship has their ups and downs, most likely due to the people being different people at the time. Everyone’s changed! Regina was the Evil Queen when she killed Marian, who could’ve gotten out of it might I add, and she’s shown her remorse by not only saving this woman’s life once, but twice! And now working really hard to save her a third time!
Regina was an evil tyrannical queen. Snow was an innocent woman who was the best chance for the peasants to live in a kingdom without fear. If you were a mother in Once, what sort of queen would you want your child to live under, an evil tyrannical one or a kind and just one? Regina was making an example out of Marian. Marian sacrificed her life so that Roland could’ve had the chance to grow up with Snow as queen. With Snow dead, there was no chance of that and Roland would’ve grown up under Regina’s rule and probably could’ve died because of it.
Whilst Regina is doing the right thing by saving Marian’s life and kudos to her, she shouldn’t be applauded for the simple fact of not letting Marian die. Marian is an innocent woman who deserves the chance to live because she is an actual person. She shouldn’t be allowed to die just because she’s an inconvenience to Regina’s love life.
Also the fact that REGINA shows more care and concern for Marian casts Robin in a very negative light.
4. Robin is a “douche bag”
Let’s set the record straight on this one shall we?
You all wanted him to go back to Marian right? He did it…he left the woman who really held his heart, and went back to his wife whose been dead for about 30+ years now. Now…can you imagine the conflict he felt the two days he was with Marian? A Woman he no longer loved, but only thought of as a good friend? Constantly tortured because of the “Code” that had not only broken the heart of the woman he truly loved, but had brought him misery!
Nobody is saying that Robin should’ve stayed with Marian forever and ever if he didn’t love her. He should’ve told her he was leaving BEFORE he started banging Regina in her crypt. That would’ve been the decent and honourable thing to do. There is no honour in what Robin is doing now. Nobody criticises Milah for leaving Rumple, they criticise her for the manner in which she left him ie making him believe she was kidnapped and going to be raped by pirates.
A lot of you say he should have confessed to Marian, but the woman had just been knocked upside the head with a log, and dragged 30+ years into the future into a new land by Emma! Him going back to Marian was expected, if even just to get her accustomed and settled into the new land, and it was because of his “Code” that he felt he was stuck in the marriage with Marian, obviously because no one has explained divorce to him, that’s if he needs one!
Robin could’ve said to Regina that he chooses her but he feels that he owes it to Marian to help her get acquainted with Storybrooke before he tells her the truth. Hell if push came to shove, he could’ve asked one of his merry men to help Marian out. The point is, if Robin didn’t love Marian at all, and loved Regina 100% instead, he would’ve told Marian the truth. I think that Robin actually did want Marian, his “beloved” as he described her in 3B, over Regina and he did behind his marriage vow as an excuse. However, when Marian got frozen, Robin thought he could crawl back to Regina because suddenly Marian wasn’t that great an option anymore.
And when Ingrid(who I wonder is an OQ Shipper?) freezes Marian…what do you all expect him to do? Sit there and coddle Marian, rubbing her frozen hands and feet till she defrosts? Bring Roland to play hide and go seek with his ice cold mother? What did you all expect him to do? He doesn’t love Marian anymore, even he knew that his true love’s kiss wouldn’t work, and he only tried it because he was practically put on the spot by everyone else!
To think of Ingrid as an OQ shipper is like saying Peter Pan was a RumBelle shipper. It’s just not true. Ingrid wanted the town to turn against Elsa. It could’ve been anyone that got frozen. Unfortunately for Marian, the writers decided that freezing her would help further the OQ plot.
Also Robin hasn’t been doing much to help try unfreeze Marian apart from running to Regina and expecting her to do it (asking the woman he dumped to help save the woman he dumped her for so that they can carry on their marriage is such a douchebag move). Yet the moment Regina tells him about trying to find the author of the book, he’s on the case or rather he enlists Will because he can’t do it alone.
Snowing’s affair carried on for WEEKS, OutlawQueen’s only carried on for about four days! And everyone uses the excuse Snowing were really married, and they just didn’t know to excuse them, but are ready to burn OutlawQueen at the stake! A tad hypocritical if I may add because cursed or not, Snowing had an affair! And frankly, if everyone can get over that month or two long affair, then it should be just as easily to get over OutlawQueen’s four day affair!
The difference between the Snowing affair and the OQ affair is that MM didn’t murder Kathryn. Regina murdered Marian.
Regina is Robin’s confirmed soul mate, it’s their destiny to have their happily ever after! And it appears even Fate/The Sorcerer even agrees hence we find the missing page! And again, take it as you will…one or two things happened, either someone erased those events from their heads, or someone just rewrote history to suit the current time line. That page was clear proof that something did happen that night!
I think that page only proves that it’s a person’s choices that affect their future rather than “destiny”. At worst you could argue that “fate” will always course correct So Regina could’ve walked into the tavern and met Robin but for some reason or another, she would’ve still ended up casting the dark curse. There is even the slim possibility it’s a case of “right person, wrong time”. Regina wasn’t supposed to be with Robin then, she’s not supposed to be with Robin now, but she’s meant to be with him in the future. If you go by the theory that all prophesies are meant to happen, then Henry was supposed to die in Neverland. By changing Henry’s fate, Pan ended up casting the curse which Regina had to undo, sending them back to the EF where Regina met Robin. Because “destiny” was still in a spin, it sent Emma back to the past to retrieve Marian since it’s trying to correct itself since Regina and Robin aren’t meant to be together yet.
Not only did they have so far the best/steamiest scene in the series, but Robin and Regina’s scene was yet again voted by SpoilerTV the best scene from Sunday Night!
A faction of people voting again and again in order to make their ship win a poll does not reflect the opinion of the rest of the fandom. How else do you think SwanQueen wins so many ship polls? 10 people voting 20 times will give a higher number than 100 people voting once.
5. Roland…
People try to use this poor kid as an excuse to justify why Robin should go back to Marian, when frankly he seemed to use Regina name to get what he wanted….I think some of that Mills Cleverness rubbed off on him.
I mean let’s face facts…Roland seemed happier walking down that street with OutlawQueen then with Robin and Marian. The kid maybe young, but he’s not dumb… Dang, I wish I could find that photo comparison!!!!
As you said, he used Regina’s name to get what he wanted. That’s not “Mills cleverness” that’s common sense. Roland is playing his parents off against each other. Roland wanted ice cream. Robin said no. By using Regina’s name, Roland is bargaining on Marian wanting to be seen as favourably as Regina. Guess what? It worked, he got ice cream. Kids aren’t stupid, they work out the best route to get what they want. Roland is at least 5 now, possibly nearly 6, he’ll know the best way to wrap his parents round his little finger.
You’re forgetting the OQ shot was after Roland got ice cream, the Marian/Robin shot was before Roland got ice cream. Of course Roland is going to look happier when he’s stuffing his face with ice cream. Kids always prefer the grown up that buys them treats over the one that doesn’t. Let’s see how happy Roland is with Regina when she has to discipline him.
Technically Marian would benefit greatly from losing Robin, because it would allow her the chance to go and find her OWN happy ending! Robin Hood, according to Fate, was never really Marian’s to begin with….he’s not her soul mate! They probably were true loves 30+ years ago, but not anymore!
Marian deserves someone better than Robin. Someone who sticks by her in SICKNESS and in health instead of running off to bang someone else in a crypt when the going gets tough. At this point in time, it HAS to be MARIAN’S DECISION to leave Robin. He’s been such a jerk towards her that for him to dump her would be wrong. She has to dump him!
Marian’s just gonna have to go and find herself a new man…and quite frankly, we still have no idea what happened between her and Sheriff of Nottingham…for all we know Robin could have wooed her away from him!
Considering the sheriff wanted sex with Belle in exchange for telling Rumple Robin’s name, and the fact the he considered Belle’s opinion on the matter irrelevant, I’d say he probably treated Marian as nothing more than a possession. Marian chose to live in the woods as an outlaw compared to living in a house/castle with the sheriff. That to me suggests that she considered Robin the better option.
As I stated above, Marian can go find the man who was MEANT for her! And please don’t bring Roland into this because he was much happier with the way things were before Emma screwed it up, and yes Marian is his mother, but he’s suffering now because he sees how tense things are with his parents! Roland liked Regina with his daddy…and he’d probably like whoever Marian falls in love with after Robin.
Roland liked Regina because she bought him ice cream. Let’s see how much he likes her when she has to discipline him and she’s not in his good graces.
And as for Regina’s happy ending requiring someone else to suffer, HELLO, Snowing’s Happy Ending caused Regina to suffer! Snow White telling Cora about Daniel, who was killed because of Snow’s betrayal….thus really starting the whole darkness in Regina, which Rumple harvested! Regina being Snow’s step mother, who she later sent on the run which caused Snowing to even meet in the first place! Had Regina not suffered, there would be no Snowing, no Emma, no SwanFire/CaptainSwan, and no Henry! Regina practically suffered for everybody’s happy ending to come about!
Is Henry not Regina’s happy ending? Her TLK with Henry helped break the second curse. Whilst Snow shouldn’t have told Cora about Daniel, it is strongly implied that Cora already knew about StableQueen and set up Snow as the fall guy. Also, Regina felt powerless against Cora so directing her hate at Snow over Daniel’s death was the easier option. Regina’s “suffering” after pushing Cora through the mirror only came about as a result of REGINA’S CHOICES.
And I don’t think it’s fair to sanctify one affair over the other! Because technically, Snowing weren’t married in SB during the first curse, so it still counted as an affair. Kathryn was still hurt, Snow was still the other woman, and David was still caught in a tug of war! An affair is an affair, cursed or not! Then the fact that Snowing carried at least two months worth of an affair, whereas OutlawQueen has only had two to four days!
The fact that all 3 people were cursed and that their actual personalities were in love with different people slightly mitigates that. Abigail wanted Snowing to be together, Abigail had her own true love. Did Snow cheat on Charming with Whale? No, because they were cursed. Robin and Regina’s actual personalities are cheating on Marian.
And just as we know the truth, David was supposed to be with Snow with the Kathryn situation, then we know the truth Robin was supposed to be with Regina in this Marian situation. You can’t say one is right and the other is wrong when they’re both the SAME situation.
They are not the same situation!
Snowing were cursed, OutlawQueen are not.
Snow did not murder Kathryn, Regina murdered Marian.
There were no kids caught in the Snowing affair (unless you want to count Emma) Roland is caught in the OQ affair.All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixAlright, folks. I’m closing this thread for the time being. It might re-open at some point, but with possible new guidelines. But the way it stands now, progress is not being made if both sides keep arguing about the ethics of Outlaw Queen. What started out as a thread to vent against the ship has turned into a general shipping debate.
Me and RG have decided to re-open the thread, but we have to lay down some new ground rules. For this thread to remain active, I’m afraid I’m going to have to ask Wicked Regal or any other possible Outlaw Queen shipper to NOT defend Outlaw Queen in this thread. This thread is for those who don’t agree with the ship to be able to vent in peace. There’s plenty of ant-Captain Swan venting in the Swan Fire thread, and there’s plenty of anti-Swan Fire venting in the Captain Swan thread, so it’s not like Outlaw Queen is singled out when it comes to ship bashing. Since this is technically a shipping thread, the same rule as other shipping threads apply here: if you enter a shipping thread, then be prepared to read things that you may not like being said against your ship. Shipping debates just get ugly, as we had to banish the CaptainSwanFire thread to the dark abyss. Therefore, you have all been warned. If I see any shipping debates in this thread, I will have to step in and break it up.
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