Why is Hook such a divisive character within the fandom?

[Michael]

Hook and Regina are both divisive characters, and easily the most popular characters on the show. This coming from someone online with resources that hates Hook. Admits that he and Regina are the most popular characters.

If you honestly think that Regina is not hated in many factions of the fandom then may I suggest going to other forums or social media?

You’ll see that Regina is not as loved as you think she is. Much like Hook she has many people that love her and just as many people that hate her.

Oh there are huge similarities between them in this relationship.  A (literal) lost boy….a lost girl….both sent away from their families…one a child of dark magic…the other a child of light magic…who found each other even though they were centuries apart, connected through fate and destiny, have a story and relevance that exists outside of one another and were original characters to the series…..Oh wait….

Thanks for proving to me that you’re clearly still bitter about what happened to Neal and SF even though it was literally 3 years ago.

season 3B again, where they all went back to the Enchanted Forest. See, Regina didn’t revert back to the Evil Queen and start terrorizing people. She stayed with her family and tried to help the issue they were facing. Hook up and abandoned everyone and went back to…being a pirate.. Oh, but hey at least he’s not sleeping around anymore because he loves Emma, so hes a good guy afterall, guys. He only did something heroic when he believed it would get him back to Emma. That’s the only thing driving his character

I wouldn’t say he went back to being a pirate considering the fact that he had no ship. He was just desperate for some sense of familiarity after losing Emma and thinking that would be it. He stayed true to his word though and even when his crew offered him company he denied it because he was in love.

And furthermore if you want to bring up 3B don’t twist things please. Hook came back through trading the thing he viewed as his home for over 300 years all for the sake of the chance of finding Emma and reuniting her with her family. That was the goal. It had nothing to do with winning Emma.

Are we forgetting how long it took Hook to tell Emma how he found her? How he got to her? In fact all throughout the season he avoided the question until in the season finale Emma asked him. If it really was all about finding and getting w/ Emma he would not have hesitated in telling her how he did it but that wasn’t his intentions. His only intentions were reuniting her with her family and stopping the new threat.

 

[thedarkonedearie]

n order for me to be happy with Hook, I just want the character to be fun again. Swooning over Emma is not fun. Flashbacks mean to show that he was really good all along, is not fun. Other characters liking him and talking to him won’t make me like him as a character. I loved Hook’s episode with Ursula. I loved the Dark Hook thing. I even loved his Hades adventure with Arthur. I give hook props when props are due. But I’m just not here for the constant lap dog Hook who exists solely to be Emma’s mate/kindred spirit/true love/boyfriend/ whatever ya’ll want to call it.

I think it’s fair to say you enjoyed Hook more as a villain and find his nice redeeming self to be, well less interesting and more on the boring side, right?  And with Regina, you found both her evil side and her nice side to be interesting?

[thedarkonedearie]

Thanks for proving to me that you’re clearly still bitter about what happened to Neal and SF even though it was literally 3 years ago.

*laughing with glee…..

nd furthermore if you want to bring up 3B don’t twist things please. Hook came back through trading the thing he viewed as his home for over 300 years all for the sake of the chance of finding Emma and reuniting her with her family. That was the goal. It had nothing to do with winning Emma. Are we forgetting how long it took Hook to tell Emma how he found her? How he got to her? In fact all throughout the season he avoided the question until in the season finale Emma asked him. If it really was all about finding and getting w/ Emma he would not have hesitated in telling her how he did it but that wasn’t his intentions. His only intentions were reuniting her with her family and stopping the new threat.

PREACH.  It’s funny how many people who dislike Hook forget all the good things he has done.  The whole Jolly Roger thing particularly gets lost.

[TheWatcher]

think it’s fair to say you enjoyed Hook more as a villain and find his nice redeeming self to be, well less interesting and more on the boring side, right?  And with Regina, you found both her evil side and her nice side to be interesting?

Yes. But not so much just because he was villain but because he was interesting to watch doing all his villainous things. Hes not fun anymore. He just seems very forced, like a lot of things on this show, even Regina has her forces moments. I think the writers enjoy the villains moreso than the heroes.

Thanks for proving to me that you’re clearly still bitter about what happened to Neal and SF even though it was literally 3 years ago.

No, im just pointing out that if that is your reasoning foe why Hook is great it can be applied elsewhere.

Once again, u ignored all my points about the charactwr to focus on the ship comment. Im not bitter Neal is dead. Im just unimpressed with Hook.

I wouldn’t say he went back to being a pirate considering the fact that he had no ship. He was just desperate for some sense of familiarity after losing Emma and thinking that would be it. He stayed true to his word though and even when his crew offered him company he denied it because he was in love

So….Emmaa fanily and friends that he had been helping for so long suddenly meant nothing to him once she was gone but its okay because he refused to sleep with a random woman……. Hmm? Hook didnt have a ship at that point? Didnt he escape the curse and trade the ship and then attempt to kill blackbeard to get it back? And even then how does that negate that he left Emmas fanily behind to go back to his old ways.

Hook and Regina are both divisive characters,

Im not saying they arent. Im saying Hook has split the fandom moreso than Regina has. Even here on the forums the constant bickering over Hook has caused a lot of Hook fans to leave. Its not a contest.

His only intentions were reuniting her with her family and stopping the new threat.

Well…i mean how he did it isnt the point. Hook SHOULD be willing to trade his home for love. I know a lot of Hook fans blow that up but he did what a decent person should do in that situation.

But once again, im waitinf for my questions to be addressed and all you’ve done os prove them. Hook exists to be Emma’s man. And a lot of u are okay with that. Dont u think he could be more like he once was?

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
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[RumplesGirl]

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This veering dangerously close to a bad place. Let’s remember to be respectful and less snarky, mmkay? That goes for all ships and all sides.

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"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[thedarkonedearie]

Dont u think he could be more like he once was?

So that’s the problem though isn’t it?  The way he once was with a single pirate only interested in using his looks and charm to persuade women to sleep with him, is no more.  Now, he’s in love with Emma, and is trying to be a better person.  So he’s a different character now bc his character changed.  However, if you are sick of him just being on Emma’s shoulder all the time, perhaps the writers could write something for Hook that has nothing to do with Emma.  The closest we got was Dark Waters which brought back Liam and further developed Henry and Hook’s relationship.  Even though that whole adventure was started bc Hook decided to keep the shears in case he ever had to use them on Emma haha.  But creating stories for Hook that have nothing to do with his gf, the Savior and the central character of the show, is very hard at this point considering we are getting to the end and ultimately Hook and Emma are probably gonna remain together til the end.  The big arc for Hook was season 5 when he became the DO.  Now, the end of the show should be about Emma and right now, Hook is with Emma so we are getting a lot of them together.  Now we have yet to learn of Hook’s mother which is oddly curious.  But if the show is to end this season, that is a story that could be interesting for Hook and one they should try and address.  Wouldn’t it be crazy if it turned out Black Fairy was also Hook’s mother and Rumple and Hook turned out to be brothers?  Just saying….anything can happen on this show.  But because this season’s overall arc is Emma being the Savior and Saviors not getting happy endings, Hook, being her boyfriend, is going to play the boyfriend part a lot.

[TheWatcher]

Hook, being her boyfriend, is going to play the boyfriend part a lot.

i get that. My issue is that his character doesn’t extend far beyond that.  When he does its always shortlived or makes it way to being about romance and emma. I disliked the dark Swan arc near the end for this reason. They took an amazing plotline (emma becoming evil, Hook becoming a dark one, the very thing he hates) and made it into CS centered plot. Snowing often has this issue as well where they do the majority of things in stories that center around their relationship. But Snowing still has many more connections to other other characters outside of each other and have for many seasons.

I know Hook and Emma being together means we will see them alot. That isnt my issue with him as a character. I want Hook to be more than that. Hook can still be the awesome guy he was when he was first introduced.

To give an example: Let Hook find out his ship was actually cursed by Ursula and now Davy Jones will come to claim his soul. And he has to do something about that. Let Hook find out that not being in Neverland anymore will cause him to age rapidly and die, and he has to get Rumpel to help him despite them hating eachother. I mean, these all sound stupid, but they can make it work. Let Hook do something. Emma can be there for support, sure, but let the dude have a goal again!

#MakeHookGreatAgain xD

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

[PriceofMagic]

I actually don’t hate Hook this season and I used to absolutely loathe him. I like that he actually apologised properly to Belle for what he did and tried to help her.

My main complaint about Hook now is that how he is behaving now is how he should’ve been behaving a couple of seasons ago. Better late than never I suppose.

I get Watcher’s point about how Hook’s storyline for the past few seasons is all about Emma. Take Emma away and what purpose does Hook have? Neverland should’ve been Hook’s time to shine and showcase his “hidden depths” from what we saw in season 2. Instead he was just “there”. Neverland was such a wasted opportunity.

Hook’s actions were whitewashed quite a bit, especially in comparison to Regina’s and Rumple’s misdeeds, and this was the fault of the writing. The writers got lazy and only this season have they started putting the effort in.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[hjbau]

The entire episode where Henry and Hook went down to the sub was pretty much Henry disliking Hook. They were better off at the end then the beginning, but they still weren’t friends. Charming has never been Hook’s friend. He just in this half said something like he just wants Emma to be happy, which is the party line for the group. They just want Emma to be happy. They are not friends with Hook.

Belle has no one and is barely a character in her own right, so her talking to Hook is meaningless. They are never going to be friends in any real sense. They have conversations. They are not friends.

[hjbau]

My dislike for Hook does extend beyond because he is just Emma’s boyfriend. He is not only just Emma’s boyfriend and completely unconnected from all the other characters, he is a terrible boyfriend. He has treated Emma like crap and on multiple occasions almost been responsible for her death and the death of her family. Also, he is sleazy and a rapist and characters don’t come back from that on a tv show. They don’t come back from that and then date and marry the protagonist. He is a terrible character and should have died a long time ago.

I agree though with the other posters. No one is changing anyone’s minds here. I have watched the show and i see what i see and others have watched the show and think other things happened. It is what it is at this point.

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