Why Peter Pan is NOT the Shadow

[RumplesGirl]

I still also think that Morraine’s talk with Henry was some kind planning. She just happened to talk to him about Reull Gorhm and the Blue Fairy just happened to have just one bean left that would help him. I can’t quite figure out how BF fits into everything. Unless she’s the role of Tinkerbelle who, imo, desperately loved and extremely jealous of Peter.

That’s interesting. Can fairies disguise themselves as humans? Maybe she was Tink and she told Bae about Blue in order to set the chain into motion.

[Josephine]

Typo in the above…I meant Morraine’s talk with Bae, not Henry, but I think you realized that. 😀

Hmm…there is so little we know of fairies. Nova appears human sized, but Blue is always tiny. She’s supposed to be the “Original Power”, but is only used when it’s convenient for the story. She is either the ultimate puppet master or just being used as plot device, which is bad writing, imo. This is why so many people think the Blue Fairy is ultimately the Big Bad of the show. So if Eddie and Adam are honest and Blue is good, then she’s just being written horribly. I really think we need more parameters about fairies. We really know nothing about them besides the fact that they’re not destined for love and use diamond dust for their magic…and Whale wondering if he can date them. 😎

Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

[kfchimera]

My instinct says BF will not be Tinkerbell….but….it would be funny if they did combine them, as a way to get into BF origin story, and at Comicon Keegan did mention she was the only one who wore a green cape, and she got the role. Green being the signature color for Tinkerbell in Disneyverse.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[RumplesGirl]

@KFChimera wrote:

My instinct says BF will not be Tinkerbell….but….it would be funny if they did combine them, as a way to get into BF origin story, and at Comicon Keegan did mention she was the only one who wore a green cape, and she got the role. Green being the signature color for Tinkerbell in Disneyverse.

I would speculate that fairies from different lands know about each other and maybe communicate. I’d like for the BF to not be totally ignorant of other worlds and what goes on there.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Phee]

@KFChimera wrote:

@Phee wrote:

This is why I’m still thinking that that particular shadow belonged to Felix. Felix’s shadow lost Bae, so Felix had to find Bae, and Felix had to compare Bae to the pic to see if he’d hit the jackpot.

Great connection with the glowing eyes being similar to the glowing hearts!

I’m not sure, since we see Felix has a shadow attached to him in the scene in the below-deck cabin with Hook. All the lost boys walk out, and their shadows reflect on the door opposite, including Felix. It’s the scene right after he tells Hook about the “rrrrripp” so, it would have been a prime moment to edit out HIS shadow verus all the other boys as they pass the door. It could be his shadow if after it is ripped, it hangs around with him unless sent to another world I guess. Sort of an assumption that after a shadow is ripped, that one no longer makes shadows.

Yeah, I posted that comment some time before you posted about having seen the shadows in that scene on the ship. Kept my eyes open for them on a re-watch and you’re right, you clearly see Felix’s shadow pass over the door as he’s walking out past Hook. The rest of the scene has shadows cast all over the place by the way the cabin is constructed, so it was sort of like they might have done that to try and mask the shadows of the Lost Ones. But when they’re walking out the door, it’s obvious, and that’s something they could have easily avoided if they didn’t want Felix’s shadow to be seen, just by switching the direction he was lit from.

@KFChimera wrote:

ltlbearlaw wrote: He says, when asked if he can find Henry : “It may take some time but I’ll find him. Peter Pan never fails” (clearly meaning “I” never fail).

Except that A&E said he wasn’t speaking the third person. I can’t remember where that was now, some interview.

And it’s also been hinted at recently that they’re casting someone new for the role of PP.

@Josephine wrote:

@Phee wrote:

It would also suggest that PP was manipulating Rumple in the creation of the Curse, and possibly even manipulating BF giving Bae the bean, all pieces of the puzzle that would ultimately lead to the birth of the prophecide boy (Henry) and his being brought to NL.

Perhaps?

I keep coming back to this, Phee, in my mind. Rumple was all gung-ho about fighting in the Ogre War. So excited and proud until he just happened to come across the seer. The seer just happens to find the one person who is going to have this fantastical journey crossing hundreds of years and innumerable curses and magic. I know we talk about fate, but this just reeks of the seer being planted there to set off the events of everything. It’s only after the seer talks to Rumple that the dominos start falling.

So this means the seer could have been working for someone else. She was a child. Maybe she was one of the children that PP took and found out she had special powers and she prophesized all that would be. The she was set back to FTL to set everything into motion. Rumple had to do everything so that Henry would eventually be born…without his machinations Bae would have never left and Henry would never have been conceived.

I still also think that Morraine’s talk with Henry was some kind planning. She just happened to talk to him about Reull Gorhm and the Blue Fairy just happened to have just one bean left that would help him. I can’t quite figure out how BF fits into everything. Unless she’s the role of Tinkerbelle who, imo, desperately loved and extremely jealous of Peter.

My brain hurts, now. :geek:

Yeah, the more I think about it all, the more I think it was all set up, and this manipulation of people and events in various worlds has all just been PP’s plan to eventually bring Henry to him. I hear you on the hurting brain thing. 😕

[RumplesGirl]

Yeah, the more I think about it all, the more I think it was all set up, and this manipulation of people and events in various worlds has all just been PP’s plan to eventually bring Henry to him. I hear you on the hurting brain thing. 😕

I agree, so then the question becomes who has been manipulated and who is manipulating. Is Blue working for PP? Someone suggested somewhere that Morriane could have been a fairy in disguise or maybe one of the Lost Ones. How many things did PP set up to bring this about?

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

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