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Why was the Queen so easy going with Jefferson?

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season One › 1×17 "Hat Trick" › Why was the Queen so easy going with Jefferson?

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  • March 26, 2012 at 4:15 am #134029
    hjbau
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    The queen is usually a little bit more brutal when it comes to getting what she wants. I really thought she was going to kidnap Jefferson’s daughter and force him to do what she wanted, but she didn’t do that. She tricked him. She used his desire to provide for his daughter as a subtle trick to get him to go along with her idea. Why?

    Some people seem to be theorizing that they are related. I don’t know about that. Jefferson does continually call her the Queen. This is clearly not their first time using a portal to another world. And what happened to Jefferson’s child’s mother? Another thing like this that went badly wrong?

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    March 26, 2012 at 9:46 am #139779
    romantic_sheep
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    He was calling her the Queen to his daughter while he was pretending not to know her, but as soon as he enters his house, it’s “What are you doing here, Regina?”
    He called her the Queen again talking to the Queen of Hearts, but they do seem to be familiar enough to be on a first name basis.
    What’s their story? No idea.

    March 26, 2012 at 10:36 am #139784
    mia
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    About Jefferson’s wife: he says that he stopped travelling&using the hat, because he lost her. So yeah, something must have happened. He says he used to do business. I got the feeling that he travelled to the different world’s to get things for people, like Regina.
    Also – no foundation for this theory, just a thought –, maybe his wife was Alice. ^.^ I don’t think his daughter is Alice, ’cause she’s already got two names.

    March 26, 2012 at 11:26 am #139790
    Slurpeez
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    I think Regina had clearly worked with Jefferson before on some task. Perhaps they’re related somehow since Regina mocked the Mad Hatter and repeated his words to him, “You never leave family.” Lots of mysteries to unfold next season I’m sure.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    March 26, 2012 at 11:45 am #139791
    hjbau
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    Maybe the Hatter left his wife somewhere and that was why the Queen mocked him like that.

    March 26, 2012 at 12:41 pm #139799
    killianhookfan
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    There is something there in EQ/Regina that I haven’t been able to put my finger on yet. But even though I typically want to through things at her through the screen – there are very brief moments when she shows some remorse and deep sadness over SOMETHING, and I don’t just think it is some lost love – it is clearly some kind of family situation, and after seeing how she was with Jefferson I don’t think it is just as simple as her mother.

    At one point I wondered whether Mr. Gold/Rumple, in his grand scheme of things, was also planning to somehow redeem Regina/EQ in his ultimate outcome of whatever it is he is doing. I am still convinced that he wants to rid himself of his own curse and ultimately destroy all magic. But I am now starting to convince myself even more that, even though I always think Rumple is out for himself, I do think that he recognizes that when evil takes hold of someone you can’t necessarily blame that person – they always have some reason they think is justified for doing what they are doing and they never truely understand the seriousness of their actions when it comes to magic. So I think that he also want to rid EQ/Regina of her curse as well. So even though we are all confused about whether he is working with, for the EQ or alone – I think his plan is to cure her as well – whether she THINKS she wants it or not.

    March 26, 2012 at 11:46 pm #139883
    fairycutie86
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    @slurpeez108 wrote:

    I think Regina had clearly worked with Jefferson before on some task.

    That was my thought as well. I think in terms of her being so familiar and easy with him deals not just with her having hired him in the past, but also I think with her making sure she can get him to do the task so she could fool him at the end. Jefferson was totally oblivious to Regina’s back-stab at the return portal. Had she been her usual self, I’m guessing he might have caught on quicker.

    March 27, 2012 at 5:38 am #139924
    crabtrem
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    Jefferson is an interesting and dynamic character whose departure is all too soon. He talked to Regina as an equal, so much so that many felt a family bond might exist. It is clear that their dealings go back aways. But she didn’t seem to be familiar with his wife, or what happened to her. Or she just didn’t care. It seemed to me Regina was in darker colors, but not all black, could just be my eyes. I think I remember the feathered collar she wore when she got the spell back from Malificent. But Regina didn’t seem to be as evil at the beginning of the episode as she was at the end.
    The mirror attests to this being after Leopold’s murder. Does Regina have her heart collection now? Or will she get this from the Queen of Hearts. We know she has the heart boxes with the Huntsman, but do we know how long she has had them? The doors to the heart lockers have the same flowered design on them, the boxes appear the same, even with the same numbering scheme.

    March 27, 2012 at 6:28 pm #139987
    @midgemarly
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    She seems to have some compassion for Jefferson in this picture. It looked for a moment like she was hesitating abandoning him there. She had to struggle to regain her evil persona IMO.

    March 27, 2012 at 8:28 pm #140041
    Slurpeez
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    crabtrem wrote: Jefferson is an interesting and dynamic character whose departure is all too soon.

    I agree. Fortunately, we're going to see Jefferson again!.

    “Sebastian Stan did not disappoint as the Mad Hatter. He'd better be back! No need to break out the hat and lock Once Upon a Time's creators away in Wonderland: They know just how awesome Stan was as the Mad Hatter/Jefferson as he's set to appear in two more episodes this season! Read more: http://uk.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/spoiler_chat_daily_mad_once_upon_time/304097#ixzz1qLn6Y56V

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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