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I I liked the idea that everyone else is already back in SB, and we will slowly unfurl how that happened during the missing year’s time frame in flashbacks–but what if it is Henry encountering Regina that triggers everyone to wind up back there in SB?
What if Hook intends to get Emma, but have Henry wait for her to return from rescuing her family. We all know Henry’s sneaky, so maybe he doesn’t heed the warning that Henry cannot be near Regina, thinking it was just a matter that there was an automatic return to sender policy and nothing else as to why they all separated. Or maybe he doesn’t have his memories restored and he just follows his mother because she’s his mother.
There are grudges and feuds that the characters have moved past on many levels during the course of the last season,but of course, Emma is in a state of memory loss, but the others are not. The writers might use that narrative device to show the characters unravel those new alliances or it might show them knit even tighter together in the face of the struggle to reclaim their home-world from Ogres in the missing year, bound together by grief of having lost who they have lost. We simply do not know who trusts who or who dislikes who anymore. An entire year has passed and we have seen none of it (yet).
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HappyEndings wrote: I think Hook gets carried back over by the curse and then he takes off to see Emma. Then returns with Emma in SB. FYI: I think Snow already had her baby it has been a year.
HE, I was thinking that but my only question then is WHY IS HE STILL WEARING HIS PIRATE GEAR?! haha everyone else is wearing regular clothes. Not that I mind the pirate gear, but you’d think if everyone else managed to hit the local Storybrooke Target, he would’ve too… You’re right about the baby part…a good reason why Snowing wouldn’t be able to go. Besides, “Hi Emma, we’re your parents you don’t remember – ok, yes, we refer to ourselves as Snow White and Prince Charming, and we’re the same age as you, and look, you have a sibling!” seems to be enough for Emma to call to transport these folks to the looney bin…even more than some crazy pirate!
Hook being in his normal pirate gear is also a reason I believe that he’s not cursed like the others. I mean Robin Hood has on normal clothes in the gurney scene(more on that later). He escaped in time before the curse happened which is why I believe that in FTL he found a way back to our world and to Emma. What means he used and why it was him chosen is a mystery but it will be revealed via flashback during the back half. He found her ultimately in the end and on a show where TL always finds one another, always fights it’s pretty dang telling. Goodness knows how long he spent searching for her but he thought of her every day proven by the face he made upon seeing her again, you can tell he kept his word. Plus he had a year to move on I have seen many here state that Hook is not in love with Emma. Well he had a year to move on without seeing her and instead his love not only grew for her, he ultimately searched and transcended realms and found her in the end. So you tell me if Hook is in love with Emma now?
As for the whole gurney situation, I think people are just desperate to know what’s going on with Neal or Rumple but realistically speaking I don’t think the person on the gurney is either individual, I believe it’s Roland.
Robin Hood being at the forefront is a dead give away just look at his face, just look at the panic. That’s a man concerned for his blood, his family. Neal is not Robin’s family. Neal is nothing to Robin, not even a friend, acquaintance at best. He helped Neal to pay a debt, once the debt was paid they parted ways. They spent their small number of episodes butting heads because Neal wanted to use Roland as bait to the shadow and Robin wasn’t letting that happen.
As for why Hook and Charming are there if it’s Roland? It’s a toddler on a stretcher, I think any human being is gonna be concerned over the well being of an injured child in a hospital. Hook and Charming are in the background because they’re not intended to be the focus, Robin is. Hook and Charming are probably there because Robin’s their friend and they’re showing him support which I’m sure he needs if his son just got hurt and they don’t know what happened or what did this to him. If it was Neal they would all be where Robin is and Robin wouldn’t even be there.
As for why it’s Roland? I think that has to deal in part to the Robin and Regina romance, because this show LOVES parallels and you all know they do especially within the present and past of the same episode. I believe Regina and Robin met, likely because Roland whom may have been injured and ultimately Regina saves him and that may be what happens in the present as well. Since Whale doesn’t know what happened or who did this to him, Regina may be the only one that can save him again.
Let’s assume Hook’s mission is to get Emma to remember her past and come save her family, meaning the Charmings.
If you were her family, mother or father, would you want your daughter to leave her happy life behind? Would you put your daughter and grandson’s life in peril to help you? If you had watched your grandson go through the trauma of Neverland, would you want him to come back knowing there is danger lurking in the form of WWW?
If you we’re Hook, or Neal, would you ask Emma and Henry to leave their happy life to come help you? I’m sure they’ve discussed the pros and cons.
Definitely a situation with pros and cons. I’ve been wondering how long they’ve been back in SB before Hook ends up in NYC. Have they been there for a while, but have resisted reaching out to Emma and Henry for those reasons you mentioned? If so, what’s happened now that they’ve changed their minds and are now going after her? Or have they only just arrived in SB and whatever traumatic event caused it is making them reach out to Emma immediately, despite the fact it would upset the life she’s built with Henry?
This leads me to believe that it’s Emma’s entire family who’s in trouble, meaning Emma and Henry are also in danger.
Interesting thought, could well be.
Jenna_B wrote: HE, I was thinking that but my only question then is WHY IS HE STILL WEARING HIS PIRATE GEAR?! haha everyone else is wearing regular clothes. Not that I mind the pirate gear, but you’d think if everyone else managed to hit the local Storybrooke Target, he would’ve too…
LOL. They’re going to keep Colin in that leather until the final moments of the show.
*shakes head in agreement* At this point it’s the joke of the show that Hook will never be in modern clothes. Like never seeing Howard’s mother on “The Big Bang Theory” or for older viewers Norm’s wife on Cheers.
I’m on the train that they’re all already in Storybrooke and Hook is sent to fetch them. Adding in the set reports and photos of Hook, Emma and Henry riding away in the Bug, I think they’re driving back to Storybrooke and not going to the EF.
As for who is on the stretcher I have no idea. It’s been discussed that it appears that Robin is the sheriff now in Storybrooke by the appearance of his jacket. It’s hard to confirm this so I’m not 100% sold on the idea but I’m leaning that way. So if he picked someone up in trouble he’d be there as sheriff. But my top picks for mystery male on stretcher are Rumple, Neal or Roland.
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
The degree of concern on Robin’s face is hard to judge. It could be a merry man or woman (Mulan!?) on the stretcher for all we know. A year has passed. Whether it was spent in SB or in EF, we do not yet know. I could see Robin being concerned if one of his band were hurt, because he seems like a good leader, who values and considers his band friends. He also seems like someone who quickly offers friendship to those in need, as he did with offering Mulan a place in his band.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
As for the whole gurney situation, I think people are just desperate to know what’s going on with Neal or Rumple but realistically speaking I don’t think the person on the gurney is either individual, I believe it’s Roland.
I have seen every theory under the sun about who is on that gurney: Roland, Rumple, Neal, one of the dwarves, the mystery man from NYC. All we know is that whoever it is, they have a connection to RH, Charming and Hook. All theories are legit until we actually SEE 313.
I’m on the train that they’re all already in Storybrooke and Hook is sent to fetch them. Adding in the set reports and photos of Hook, Emma and Henry riding away in the Bug, I think they’re driving back to Storybrooke and not going to the EF.
Yup we all assumed when we saw those pics Hook and Emma and Henry were leaving SB for NYC but I think it’s safe to say it’s the return to SB for those guys. Which means Emma never goes to the Enchanted Forest in 312 and the family actually got back to SB some time ago if they are in danger now.
The degree of concern on Robin’s face is hard to judge. It could be a merry man or woman (Mulan!?) on the stretcher for all we know. A year has passed. Whether it was spent in SB or in EF, we do not yet know. I could see Robin being concerned if one of his band were hurt, because he seems like a good leader, who values and considers his band friends. He also seems like someone who quickly offers friendship to those in need, as he did with offering Mulan a place in his band.
Like I said, I’ve seen every theory under the sun. It could be Roland given that RH does look concerned but he’s friends with Neal as well. Charming and Neal are connected through Henry and Hook and Neal are some screw-y version of father/son/uncle/nephew/whatever else. So Neal is possible. But so is Roland or Rumple or Little John for all we know.
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I can’t stand that tumblr, they always instigate trouble with CS and shippers of any other ship but ST. I read their spec, sounds like desperation on the part of fan whom wants to know where Neal is. Charming does not have a focus reaction even in the wide shot, it’s all on Robin.
This is the gif set I myself have made of the clear promo.
Clearly the person on the gurney is very close to Robin, he can’t take his eyes off the gurney. It’s either Roland or one of his Merry men, perhaps John.
It’s not Neal nor Rumple. The focus of the shot is Robin and even in the wide shot of this scene the focus is again on Robin.
I can’t stand that tumblr, they always instigate trouble with CS and shippers of any other ship but ST. I read their spec, sounds like desperation on the part of fan whom wants to know where Neal is. Charming does not have a focus reaction even in the wide shot, it’s all on Robin.
Can we not bash people here on this site please? You don’t like that person’s tumblr, that’s fine. But there is no reason to label them as “desperate” HERE. They’ve presented an argument you don’t like, you may respond to it without being nasty to the person in question who is not here to defend themselves.
All we have is a 2 second clip from a promo. Yes, I think Roland is a very strong candidate for who is on that gurney given the people in shot and RH being at the forefront. But all theories are open because we just don’t know. That’s the fun of the show–putting theories out there and then having fun and polite conversations about them.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Like I said, I’ve seen every theory under the sun. It could be Roland given that RH does look concerned but he’s friends with Neal as well. Charming and Neal are connected through Henry and Hook and Neal are some screw-y version of father/son/uncle/nephew/whatever else. So Neal is possible. But so is Roland or Rumple or Little John for all we know.
Can we not bash people here on this site please? You don’t like that person’s tumblr, that’s fine. But there is no reason to label them as “desperate” HERE. They’ve presented an argument you don’t like, you may respond to it without being nasty to the person in question who is not here to defend themselves. All we have is a 2 second clip from a promo. Yes, I think Roland is a very strong candidate for who is on that gurney given the people in shot and RH being at the forefront. But all theories are open because we just don’t know. That’s the fun of the show–putting theories out there and then having fun and polite conversations about them.
Robin Hood and Neal are not friends, I would say acquaintances at best. You can define Hook and Neal as friends, that’s what the most recent canon of the show has stated. That’s how Hook defines them, as friends.
Charming and Hook are heroes, I get that but Robin would not be there for Neal or Rumple and he certainly wouldn’t be the focus unless it was someone he cared about and you can clearly see his reaction moreso then anyone else and this person means something to him. It’s someone he personally knows. So that’s why the pool can be brought down to Roland or one of his merry men.
Also I apologize for my statement to the tumblr in question, can’t stand them but hey that’s my prerogative.
Robin Hood and Neal are not friends, I would say acquaintances at best. You can define Hook and Neal as friends, that’s what the most recent canon of the show has stated. That’s how Hook defines them, as friends
Well Neal and RH have been living in the EF for a year, along with everyone else. I suspect everyone is friends by this point.
Also I apologize for my statement to the tumblr in question, can’t stand them but hey that’s my prerogative
Yes it is. Apology accepted but keep the vitriol on Tumblr.
Honestly, guys…I’m losing my mind trying to keep this site polite. I need everyone to WORK WITH ME on this. Cause I’m to the point where I want to leave.
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