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April 17, 2014 at 10:31 am #262052surayyaParticipant
Magic only comes with a price if you are a good person if you are bad nothing happens you can throw all the fire balls etc and never pay a price. This saying Magic always comes with a a Price isn’t true. Example: RH using the Wand to save his baby instead of his wife or baby dieing nothing happens.
I thought he said his wife died because of him?- maybe the price of using the wand/magic was her life for the baby?
in the end in order for Emma to save her Family, she must give up her ‘life’ as a fairytale princess with magical powers and become just a regular human being. She will bring all her friends and Family with her out of Storybrook which will then seize to exist. This will be the resurrection into the real World.
The reverse of this could also be true (since what Emma actually “wants” is to be “normal” & surrounded by her family – so getting that hardly seems a ‘price’ for her to pay- more a reward 😉 ), she has to give up her dream/desire to have a nice ‘normal’ life & instead actually embrace being a FTL princess & savior- finally accepting her true self- both the real world & the FTL parts & embracing her enchanted life.
And because the magic comes from Light and Good, and therefore, is not used for Dark or even selfish reasons, there is no price.
I do like this idea- So far the price of magic thing has come from Rumple- but his powers come from darkness, so maybe there is a price to magic IF you use it for selfish purposes/ taking the easy option, over the ‘right/light’ way. Ie- Rumple murdered a man to gain magical powers- his becoming the DO could be considered as the price paid for the act of murder. I find it hard to buy into the whole ‘price of magic concept’, because the price is so easily recovered 99% of the time. Rumple goes on to blow up fairies, but doesnt seem to pay a price for that at all personally, he turns people into bugs & murders them & also doesnt seem to pay a price- it only seems to be those who do ‘deals’ with him that ‘pay a price’ & maybe very ‘big’ acts of magic or very selfish acts ie. Regina casting curse = empty heart {which was filled by Henry- so that was a pointless price to pay} Rumple bringing magic to SB = cant leave town without loosing memories- but he worked around it, so again pretty pathetic price, casting curse 2.0= Regina never seeing Henry again- price doesnt seem very pricey either since they are all back in SB & as soon as Henry remembers, that price too becomes null & void. The only price that has been ‘real’ & of any value IMO is Rumple loosing Neal/Bae- that being a ‘cost’ of using magic makes it real & dangerous, which actually ups the stakes of using magic 100 fold IMO- but then again look at how much evil Rumple had to evoke, over a very long period of time to get to that price :/
The whole price of magic doesnt really make much sense to me personally- I see it as more of the cost of dealing with darkness/ evil, than dealing with magic itself- ie. To me magic is like a gun, You can have magic & not use it & it will just sit there doing nothing, but it can be used with good intentions/purposes (protecting people/preventing ‘bad’ things from happening to people) & the ‘cost’ to the user is nothing more than their time to use it for good, or it can be used with ill intentions/ evil deeds (acts of selfishness/ to harm others/ to gain power/control over others) in which case the cost to the user is eventual corruption & or losing those they love to it eventually (be it by there own hand/corruption or those they have wronged catching up with them)- but in either case its not the ‘gun/magic’ itself that has the cost attached- it is how it used by the ‘handler/wielder’ that costs said person in the long run (ie. do good deeds & receive good karma in return, do bad deeds & receive bad karma in return)- if that makes sense?
[adrotate group="5"]April 17, 2014 at 1:28 pm #262080Jenna_BParticipantStereotypes and archetypes and classics vs modern lit…I get all of it. But for once I’d like to see a story about magic without the cautionary tale. What if good does have magic in this realm? How does a ‘normal’ person handle that? If you have a gift and use it for good then why does there have to be a price to pay?
In Emma’s case, I think she’s paid the ‘price’ 100fold at this point. She was abandoned by her parents, lost in ‘the system,’ believed for a long time that she was abandoned by Neal (No I know, he didn’t but she thought he didand it did contribute), felt forced to give up Henry and the list goes on. For Emma, it would be nice to see magic is actually a gift – for all the things she had to experience before she even knew magic existed.
April 17, 2014 at 5:47 pm #262123surayyaParticipantStereotypes and archetypes and classics vs modern lit…I get all of it. But for once I’d like to see a story about magic without the cautionary tale. What if good does have magic in this realm? How does a ‘normal’ person handle that? If you have a gift and use it for good then why does there have to be a price to pay? In Emma’s case, I think she’s paid the ‘price’ 100fold at this point. She was abandoned by her parents, lost in ‘the system,’ believed for a long time that she was abandoned by Neal (No I know, he didn’t but she thought he didand it did contribute), felt forced to give up Henry and the list goes on. For Emma, it would be nice to see magic is actually a gift – for all the things she had to experience before she even knew magic existed.
Agreed.
Although the flip side could be, if you have good/light magic- the ‘price’ you pay is in not using it (hence could be part of the reason for Emma’s crappy life until SB)- kind of the polar opposite of ‘dark’ magic, where the ‘price’ is paid for using it.
Hmm, Maybe that’s some of the reason Blue went all ‘you shall not be a fairy’ on Green/Tink- she thought Tink helping Regina may cross the line into ‘dark’ magic eventually & therefore come at a cost to the fairies or something?
April 18, 2014 at 12:48 pm #262263The Swan PrincessParticipantI think the price is that Emma can never go back to NY and get back to the way things were before 3b. Like Hook said, she can’t be the person she was in the past. And like Regina said, magic is a lifestyle.
You know what I can't continue with the dead people brought back to life list I'm out of space in the signature and now we have an underworld arc this is to much I quit why do you bring so many people back to life OUAT WHHHYYYY
April 18, 2014 at 9:57 pm #262357once_dudeParticipantFirst I shall address the issue on hand, then I will bring up my biggest problem with our favourite saying.
I think that Emma’s price could be many things 1. i definitely agree with the saviour archetype theory they have only called ehr that 50 times. 2. However, we have seen many grow addicted to magic because it is power, our saviour who through much of her life has been a victim of others’ designs would sense this ultimate control she has and become more addicted to it, I could see her being warned by Snow and David but Regina and Rumple don’t recognize the early signs until its too late.
Magic always comes with a price what about for the original power? The price for the magic of the blue fairy is never havinga proper backstory, having people be constantly suspicious of your every move, whether you really did have good intentions and they just worked out wrong, or whether you just think yourself to be working for your definition of common good. i dont know she is the person with most mysterious motives.
Magic always comes with a price, so I pay with visa.
April 18, 2014 at 10:09 pm #262361RumplesGirlKeymasterHonestly the saying should be changed to, “magic always comes with a price…when the writers feel like making someone pay it…”
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 19, 2014 at 3:00 am #262389surayyaParticipantHonestly the saying should be changed to, “magic always comes with a price…when the writers feel like making someone pay it…”
YES! This (we could also add “& when it’s convenient”)- here have a cookie! 🙂
April 19, 2014 at 5:47 am #262394GrimmsisterParticipantI think that Emma’s price could be many things 1. i definitely agree with the saviour archetype theory they have only called ehr that 50 times. 2. However, we have seen many grow addicted to magic because it is power, our saviour who through much of her life has been a victim of others’ designs would sense this ultimate control she has and become more addicted to it, I could see her being warned by Snow and David but Regina and Rumple don’t recognize the early signs until its too late.
Yes I can see that happening. That would be awsome.
The price for the magic of the blue fairy is never havinga proper backstory,.
LOL LOL!!!!! 😀
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