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October 23, 2016 at 11:25 pm #329140WickedRegalParticipant
Hook will offer the shears, Emma will be angry, then she’ll be tempted, then she’ll reject the shears (and everyone will accept her decision this time), and then she’ll need to use them.
This is what will happen…I’m 99% sure of it!
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October 24, 2016 at 7:44 am #329152AmdillaeParticipantThe shears themselves raise a question about the true source of Emma’s magic. Is she magical because she is the Savior or is it from her being a product of true love? Throughout the series the two things are linked so often it is not clear which elements are the cause of the different parts of Emma’s various powers. I can see it being that the shears are used on Emma against her will (either through a villain striking against her or circumstances being such that she has no other choice) and she maintains her magic, even if it is weaken through the loss of the savior bond.
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October 24, 2016 at 8:16 am #329154RumplesGirlKeymasterThe shears themselves raise a question about the true source of Emma’s magic. Is she magical because she is the Savior or is it from her being a product of true love?
And the added element of Rumple’s manipulations; she wouldn’t be the Savior, at least not in the way S1 understood her and the way Emma talks about herself, without Rumple putting a drop of that TL potion on the curse. She’s not just the Savior because she’s a good person, it’s her entire makeup. She’s still True Love Incarnate and I feel like they can’t possibly cut that away without undermining everything they’ve set up about Emma.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 24, 2016 at 3:35 pm #329187GrimmsisterParticipantTheory::
Emma’s visions are only the “possible” future. She is seeing the outcome of what will happen if she uses the shears and severs herself from her “Savior Emma side”
This is a parallel to Regina/Evil Queen. What happens is that by severing themselves, they dont get rid of any sides, they only bring their inner fights to the outside world.
What Emma sees in her visions are Dark Emma killing Savior Emma (like we have sort of already theorised) It was said in the episode, that the Savior always dies… Hmmm so maybe thats what always will happen if you use the shears.
This is therefor allso what happened to Aladin. The dead corpse in the crypt (which also had the scarab) was dead “Savior Aladin” and the Aladin who is still walking around, is Dark/bad/some-type-of-evil Aladin.
October 24, 2016 at 4:07 pm #329194RumplesGirlKeymasterShe is seeing the outcome of what will happen if she uses the shears and severs herself from her “Savior Emma side”
Yes, though this begs the question, which part of Emma–Savior or non Savior–do we see getting stabbed? Emma kills the Savior side of her (the one that is constantly shaking) and her “non Savior” side lives. Except then Emma realizes she needs to be the Savior, that it’s part of her identity and the second half of S6 is about re-Savior-ing Emma.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 24, 2016 at 4:20 pm #329200GrimmsisterParticipantwhich part of Emma–Savior or non Savior–do we see getting stabbed? Emma kills the Savior side of her (the one that is constantly shaking) and her “non Savior” side lives. Except then Emma realizes she needs to be the Savior, that it’s part of her identity and the second half of S6 is about re-Savior-ing Emma.Lol this is confusing.. Hmmm.. The way I see it is. There are gonna be two sides to Emma that we are gonna see on the show. The bad and the good side.. in Emma it is Dark Swan=bad and Savior=good. Like there are two sides to Regina/EQ, to Jekyll/Hyde and now Aladin- Bad Aladin/Savior Aladin.
But the vision is only one possible outcome of the future.. if Emma doesnt use the shears, she wont need to be re-Savior-ed. And if she does use them, she will be destined to die, or the savior part of her will be.
edited in: Okay I think you were probably saying the same thing there, I just got confused. llol 🙂
October 24, 2016 at 4:24 pm #329201RumplesGirlKeymasterThe bad and the good side.. in Emma it is Dark Swan=bad and Savior=good.
Well, that was basically S5 with the Dark Swan and even then she was supremely underwhelming as the DarkSwanSavior. I don’t see them going down this path because it isn’t about Emma’s good and bad side like it is with Regina. It’s about her Savior side and the side that wants to be normal.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 24, 2016 at 4:34 pm #329203MatthewPaulModeratorAnd the added element of Rumple’s manipulations; she wouldn’t be the Savior, at least not in the way S1 understood her and the way Emma talks about herself, without Rumple putting a drop of that TL potion on the curse. She’s not just the Savior because she’s a good person, it’s her entire makeup. She’s still True Love Incarnate and I feel like they can’t possibly cut that away without undermining everything they’ve set up about Emma.
Yeah. I think the way it works is that both Emma and Aladdin had the requirements that deemed them worthy of Saviorhood, but they needed a catalyst to awaken their Savior powers. With Emma it was the dash of true love potion on the curse, and with Aladdin it was the Diamond in the Rough.
October 24, 2016 at 4:36 pm #329204GrimmsisterParticipantWell we will see.
But right now I think that the stuff that points to this in the Aladin story, is this: The scarab laying by dead corpses side, makes me think that dead corpse was Aladin. Therefor there are now 2 Aladins- One dead One alive.
The “prophesy” said that the savior is destined to die. It was Jafar that said it wasnt it? and he gave Aladin the shears because he knew the only way to get rid of Savior Aladin was for bad Aladin to kill him.
October 24, 2016 at 5:27 pm #329209MattParticipantHaving rewatched the episode, I do feel as Matthew pointed out that the diamond was just the catalyst. Almost in the same sense as Merlin and the Holy Grail, it is part of a test. The fact that Aladdin jumped over Jasmine to protect her cements that he is innately selfless.
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