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How about Zelena and Glinda turning out to be lovers?
Just a theory I had. I don’t like the idea of it being the “the” queer romance on the show since Zelena is kinda irredeemable but I thought it would fit if Zelena and Glinda had been lovers in the past – as a bit of a nod to the Wicked novel.
Maybe that’s the real reason that Glinda won’t help them with Zelena.
I would like Zelena to be redeemed in some way, I’m not sure why. Even she deserves love I guess. Something about her just always seems to hurt and messed up, a lot like Regina was but in a different way.
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I think Regina was right when she said that “Zelena doesn’t love much.” It would take more than one episode to establish them as lovers/True Love and we’re pretty sure Glinda is only in 320 and not beyond.
I think probably just school chums, a la Wicked.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"They were more than that in the original novel the musical was based off, though.
If it was backstory then it could work. It doesn’t have to be “true love” but lovers.
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I must’ve missed something when I read the novel then…cuz I didn’t read them as lovers in Wicked.
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They were very good friends, best friends even. But not lovers.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"… they kissed? Twice? And slept together? Like they outright kissed each other at one point. Glinda was only ever interested in Elphaba. She married for money. She was a lesbian.
I think part of the problem with people “Not reading” Queer romance is that they’re either straight or generally not exposed to it… which is why you end up with such a rift in the OUAT fandom for example. We don’t get enough of these examples in the media, people get defensive, don’t want to look homophobic but don’t want to accept sociological concepts like heteronormativity either.
When it comes to WIcked a lot of this was confirmed in later books etc. like Glinda’s friends got married after college. Ozma is a lesbian as was Lurline. Gregory Maguire’s Oz was pretty queer – everyone is Bi until proven otherwise(this is Word of God) which is a nice change from having to go to a lot of effort to “prove” potential queer attraction between characters in other series. The idea of bisexuality being the norm messes with people’s heads and I love it.
Even in the musical, it’s not stated as outright that it’s a love story between Elphaba and Glinda, but it has been outright stated by cast and crew. In the song “Loathing”, they purposely took a lot of tropes associated with love songs and subverted it.
It was all intentional, word of god stuff and when people still deny it even then that’s when it gets darn right offensive. The assumption that all characters are 100% until proven otherwise is really offensive and one which the Wicked years explicitly rejects. I hope they realise that even if they are not adapting that book or musical, their marketing and focus on the Witch is riding on the coat tails of it, and fans of both the book and musical are largely queer women.
So at the very least, again, it would be a nice nod to one of the books that probably has inspired the development of characters like Regina as well as Zelena even if they’re not outright admitting it. I would like if we can stop acting that queer people or queer romance are some sort of special case that need some sort of special justification for our inclusion – you never need an excuse for straight people so it should be different for us, especially when there is a very clear precedent in it. Using “Wicked” in the marketing implies they’re taking at least some inspiration from the book and/or musical even if they can’t use it directly – it’s not a stretch to also embrace the book and musical’s love of queerness.
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It has been many years since I read Wicked, the novel. So I’ll take your word for it on the action of Glinda and Elphie kissing.
As for the other stuff: I have ZERO problem with them bringing in a non-hetero romance; however I don’t think the first reciprocal relationship (not counting SleepingWarrior) should be the wicked witch who is stealing babies and killing people. Sorta sends the wrong message. Just like I didn’t want Felix to be in love with Pan and for them to be involved because they were being called demons and evil on screen. So from that perspective, I hope not.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"It’s not about whether people consciously have or think they have a problem with non-hetero romance, it’s that that are all kinds of biases in society that people internalise and can get in the way of us seeing these things.
I’m bringing up Wicked in specific because it was a series that played with that idea, which I think is interesting.
I kind of agree that it would be a bad idea though for the first proper queer relationship to be with someone as nasty as Zelena, but I still kind of want to believe she can be redeemed. I kind of just feel bad for her in this way I can’t describe and would like to see her finally feel like she’s wanted and loved instead of so angry 🙁
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See, I read a ton of classics where people kiss all the time and it’s not sexual. So just kissing doesn’t make it a romance for me :p But it’s been a while since I read it, and I didn’t like it as much as classic Oz anyway, so…
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I got the impression that fandom thought the producers had held back too much regarding Mulan and Aurora and the love that dared not speak its name. I think a female couple now might come across as a bit late, a bit conciliatory. A male couple, I think, would be a bigger challenge.
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