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May 5, 2014 at 4:59 am #266402MyrilParticipant
Cyrstal Princess wrote:
Does anyone have an actual link to where Eddy said no? Also you are aware showrunners can and will lie so they don’t spoil potential future plans, or that plans can change for a long list of reasons? It just bothers me that people act like it’s set in stone. For all we know they went to one of Lana’s LGBT ally talks and it inspired them. Who knows. It’s just not fair to nuke a ship like that either way.Don’t think they ever said no in the sense it never can happen, more that they haven’t done anything on purpose (that was what Eddy said on the SDCC 2013 panel), in other words, they’re not deliberately writing SQ (so far), so no queer baiting, no intentional subtext, it is all reading by audience. That’s why I am saying, they have no intention (so far). BTW wouldn’t say they’re lying, but writers know something about playing with words, imaginations and minds, nuances and subtlety of phrasings. In interviews it’s more improvised, but it comes there with practice.
No intention so far doesn’t mean though there is an absolute no for the future, things can change, nothing is set in stone, whatever some fans claim or prefer to think. Until the last episode of the last season has aired we can’t be sure. And while Adam and Eddy said, they have an idea about how OUaT will end, they also say, it’s not painted out in all detail. It’s serial writing, and that is story telling on the go, some things are set, some things are set for the moment, and some things will change.
Do I think SQ likely to happen? No. Don’t sense any intention by the showrunners to go there, how ever open they leave things in interviews, but that’s me. That is my interpretation. And there can be surprises.
Cyrstal Princess wrote:
… how far away are we from seeing a trans character(i.e. someone like me) on a show like this? I guess we’re a bit rarer but being trans in of itself potentially has so much fairytale like stuff in it.Probably still some way to go, sadly. But thankfully there is a bit more media attention by now. About time to show there is more diversity, more diversity than occasionally even the queer “community” knows to handle, haven’t been all nice to each other either, but the more important to be confident now and help each other to show there is so much more color in everything and everyone. Though think to overcome the binarity of sexes and gender is for a lot more people a much bigger challenge at the moment than accepting that same sex/gender love is real and no illness.
And agree, Red would be good as character to go there as well.
But polyamory? The new Battlestar Galactica, and more so the prequel Caprica offered it or hinted at it (too bad Caprica got cancelled with just 1 season), yes Wicked touched it as well. But as much as OUaT is mixing up fairy tale stories and gives them some, geeky, twists, they’re still rather traditional if it comes to romance, and the show’s audience is in the majority even more conventional IMO. It would be something exotic (and something mirror universe, AU or alien culture is good for), which always has a certain appeal, but nothing that would be shown as more or less normal or acceptable. Not there yet, even less in OUaT (sorry, A&E are good writers but profound story telling is not their thing, trivial geek fun with a touch of innocent morality suits them better, which is fine).
That is one of the nice things about shows like Star Trek and Stargate, at least they can take us to different cultures, even if our culture is not there yet, and thus give different ideas form and more visibility. Working with alien or supernatural (sub)cultures offers space to play with other ideas, like they do it now in Defiance, Star-Crossed (another show with queer characters we forgot to name, airing on CW, broadcast network), Lost Girl with Fae culture(s), True Blood.
OUaT could have done something with different realms, but it’s a family soap opera, that is where the focus is on, not on realm travelers. Well, it started with Snow White and not Gulliver, so, no surprise. Maybe in 10-15 years Henry will turn into Gulliver and we get a sequel, Next Generation sort of OUaT called Henry’s Travels 😉 And his sidekick is the son of Dreamy and Nova, who they named Sandy (diminutive of Alexander, if some wonder, yes, it can be a male name, Alexander meaning the defender of men, here though as well as nick for Dreamy and Nova’s son being a sandman). Of course they will have to master a great quest together and their friendship is more than bromance.
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May 12, 2014 at 12:11 am #268650Crystal PrincessParticipantOkay so let’s talk about who Elsa’s going to end up with.
Red makes the most sense, as much as I love Wolfairy.
What to call this ship?
I don't cause commotions, I am one.
May 12, 2014 at 12:17 am #268654Crystal PrincessParticipant#reditgo
I don't cause commotions, I am one.
May 12, 2014 at 1:52 am #268703PheeParticipantWell Jamie Chung’s show got cancelled, so perhaps Mulan will be back?
May 12, 2014 at 4:38 am #268740MyrilParticipantYep, Believe got cancelled, and so did Meghan Ory’s show Intelligence, so we can hope they might have time, eventually, Mulan and Red both.
And now there is Elsa.
If they don’t make any of it in season 4, then, I don’t know, it is the chance to do it, they would be fools, or restrained by other powers.
#reditgo – nice one.
alternative FrozenRed, RedElsa, FrozenWolfif Mulan FrozenWarrior
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May 12, 2014 at 10:47 am #268852FelieParticipantI think Elsa is the best chance for a lesbian pairing, especially if she’s not going to be a true villain (just an ‘out for justifiable revenge’ type). Perhaps Rumple killed/imprisoned her lover (or Anna) and now she’s out for blood? With her being a main player next season it means the writers don’t have to worry about turning the first lesbian couple of the show into the ‘token homos’. I also hope they bring Merida on the show, and even though I know a lot of people think of her as a lesbian I kinda want her to be Henry’s first love interest (making her his age, of course).
I do hope the writers don’t ignore Elsa’s HUGE queer fanbase 🙁
This is one issue I fear the ouat loving part of my community would not be able to ‘let it go’ ;p (but seriously, there will be carnage if she’s saved, and her heart ‘melted’ by, a guy!)
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"there’s lesbians in it"May 12, 2014 at 11:33 am #268888TheWatcherParticipant#reditgo
THIS WINS ALL THINGS!!!!! I LOVE THIS SHIP NAME!!!!!
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICMay 12, 2014 at 11:51 am #268895HappyEndingsSpectatorNo one!!!! These are Fairy Tales not Glee if you want that kind of stuff what Glee they have several on that show and others this doesn’t need to be in in Fairy Tales.
May 12, 2014 at 11:58 am #268900RumplesGirlKeymasterPlease remember that this is a thread for discussing the possibility of a Queer romance on ONCE, for people who would like to see it. If you are opposed to this, please try to find a more polite way of discussing it without shouting at people.
As for the topic at hand, I like the idea of Elsa being the first openly gay character on the show. The only thing I wouldn’t want is a ONCE twist where Anna was her lover, instead of sister.The beauty of Frozen was the sisterly relationship
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 12, 2014 at 1:39 pm #268947MyrilParticipantAs for the topic at hand, I like the idea of Elsa being the first openly gay character on the show. The only thing I wouldn’t want is a ONCE twist where Anna was her lover, instead of sister.The beauty of Frozen was the sisterly relationship
Don’t see them changing that, it would be a great and welcomed contrast to the bad sister relationship we just had with Regina and Zelena, and as much as they might like to put their own twist on characters, that would be too much of a twist even for OUaT. No, don’t worry about them making Anna anything else but Elsa’s sister.
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