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January 17, 2014 at 3:12 pm #237879RumplesGirlKeymaster
As for the wizard no casting calls was for him and like someone mention in chat no casting call went out for the witch either just strange we are on 3.16 and no sightings or rumors of a wizard.
Like I said in my first reply in this thread, if they had an actor in mind for the Wizard they wouldn’t do a casting call. They went to Mader and asked her to be the WWW. So if they had someone in mind for the Wizard, they would have gone to him too.
Whoever Gorham is playing–Uncle Henry, Random Stranger #456, they didn’t put out a casting call for him either. They went to Gorham. They used to work with him.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"January 17, 2014 at 4:08 pm #237896kfchimeraParticipantI don’t see any reason he can’t be “Uncle Henry” a friend of the Wizard and part of that lesser-known Oz mythology being used to explain he went to Oz.Most people know the movie where Henry was kind of a fatherly figure to Dorothy, and didn’t go to Oz–but by now we’re used to crazy off the wall reimagined versions.
I’m not sure what HE means by “just” Uncle Henry though.
It seems to me like you’re trying to say oh, he’s this Uncle Henry character–and not some other thing….what’s that other thing? The Wizard? Someone Emma knows? You see, logically we know so little–he could be both. I know, mind-blowing but until we know more, the truth is they’ve done the “he’s a real world guy but SURPRISE he’s got a FTL connection too!” thing, and the multiple characters combined thing, (Hello Pan is Pied Piper and Rumple’s daddy reveals!) and what’s to stop them doing it again?
So I don’t see any reason this guy could not be “Uncle Henry” from Oz –but don’t think there’ll be anything “just Uncle Henry” about what they have in mind. There’ll be something important about him.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
January 17, 2014 at 11:01 pm #237944PheeParticipantDavid went to Rumple for this idea for the sword remember.
David went to Rumple for help, Rumple said he couldn’t help, then David came up with the sword thing on his own. That sword wasn’t actually, magically stuck in the stone, which it would have been if Rumple had helped him with it. Charming just lodged that thing in there himself and faked not being able to pull it out, so that Snow felt super important when she could pull it out.
Why would this Gorman guy know about Emma if he didn’t come from OZ?
There’s every chance he’s just some guy she met during her last year in NYC. Or someone she knew in her life before Henry found her and took her to SB.
Also, Ruth said she got the necklace that predicts if you are having a boy or girl from a powerful wizard. Could be Merlin?
I like that! Was really excited when they introduced Lancelot that we’d get some more Arthurian legend stuff, but it hasn’t happened (yet). Speaking of Lancelot, he’s another reason I’d love for Charming’s father to have a Camelot connection, (maybe someone who Lancelot had even known when he was a boy), because it would kinda sorta mean that he was there in spirit for the first Snowing wedding, which means that both of Charming’s parents were there, and that gives me the warm fuzzies.
January 17, 2014 at 11:13 pm #237948HappyEndingsSpectatorDavid went to Rumple for help, Rumple said he couldn’t help, then David came up with the sword thing on his own. That sword wasn’t actually, magically stuck in the stone, which it would have been if Rumple had helped him with it. Charming just lodged that thing in there himself and faked not being able to pull it out, so that Snow felt super important when she could pull it out.
Rumple said that he didn’t have anything then David said you must have some idea so the sword in the stone idea was from Rumple not from David.
January 17, 2014 at 11:25 pm #237951PheeParticipantRumple said that he didn’t have anything then David said you must have some idea so the sword in the stone idea was from Rumple not from David.
Agree to disagree then. Makes more sense to me that Charming came up with the idea on his own. Rumple looked legit baffled when Snow asked what payment Charming had promised. IMO Rumple gave her that look because there had been no payment, (if there was, we’d have seen it being paid), because he hadn’t given any help. Then he says, “It’s true, your Prince came to ask for aid fighting the Queen. I told him I had nothing to give, and I didn’t.” Even if he’d just given him the idea for the fake Excalibur, he’d have considered that something he’d given, and he’d still have demanded payment for it. He demanded payment just for Snow having wasted his time. Everything about Rumple and Snow’s conversation about the sword felt like Rumple saying, “Honey, your Prince fooled you, and you were too silly to see, but even I can see it, even though I had nothing to do with it.”
January 18, 2014 at 12:32 am #237961WickedRegalParticipantReach for the stars HE…reach for the stars!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
January 18, 2014 at 4:07 pm #238148nonnieParticipantgood theories but I think OZ will be in season 4 …too good a story to waste for just a half season…..
I think there is too much to finish with the last curse and WWW to leave EF / FTL / and STORYBROOKE
I PERSONALLY think OZ … we are jumping the gun planning to go to OZ except as a finale going into next season
NONNIE
January 18, 2014 at 5:59 pm #238186thebassgalParticipantSimilar to Phee, I’ve had a headcanon that David’s father is Merlin. David seems to know a lot about magical things like Rumple’s dagger & pixie dust that have always seemed odd to me. How did David of all people know about pixie dust in Neverland? He is the one to describe it. Also, Ruth said she got the necklace that predicts if you are having a boy or girl from a powerful wizard. Could be Merlin?
This, but (and not sure if this has been stated elsewhere) – perhaps Merlin is David/James’ father… and the Wizard of Oz. Merlin and the Wizard would obviously both be very powerful sorcerers, so it would make sense to have them be one in the same.
January 18, 2014 at 9:56 pm #2382403princessesParticipant3princesses wrote: Similar to Phee, I’ve had a headcanon that David’s father is Merlin. David seems to know a lot about magical things like Rumple’s dagger & pixie dust that have always seemed odd to me. How did David of all people know about pixie dust in Neverland? He is the one to describe it. Also, Ruth said she got the necklace that predicts if you are having a boy or girl from a powerful wizard. Could be Merlin?
This, but (and not sure if this has been stated elsewhere) – perhaps Merlin is David/James’ father… and the Wizard of Oz. Merlin and the Wizard would obviously both be very powerful sorcerers, so it would make sense to have them be one in the same.
Maybe ! New idea…He was Merlin & left Camelot for some reason, maybe to protect Ruth & his sons. Then, somehow got stuck in Oz, and became the Wizard there.
Also, I ‘ve been thinking about this… In Oz: the Great & Powerful, the father of Glinda, Evanora, & Theodora is a wizard who predicts that a powerful wizard will come & help. I’m not sure if this type of first Wizard character is in other Oz books or movies, but perhaps this is David’s father. He could have seeing abilities and foreseen his son & granddaughter would need help in the fiture & prepared Chris Gorham to take his place as wizard & help his family.
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