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December 8, 2015 at 3:47 pm #313951MatthewPaulModerator
Something else I need to clarify. This thread is for people to freely post their own hopes, without somebody else jumping in on them to disagree. This is not the debating type of thread, as all hopes are entirely based on each person’s own opinions. Obviously not everyone is going to agree on what they would like to see the show do. You are still free to reply to other posts, if their hopes are something you happen to agree on and can add more thoughts on.
[adrotate group="5"]December 8, 2015 at 3:49 pm #313952RainbowParticipantNo, it is still not ok. I’m going to have to ask that any ship war stuff be kept out of this thread. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and SF vs CS never goes anywhere.
Ok thanks, i thought the rules still aply but was confused with some things said here, especially bc this thread is not even a thread to talk about those themes, is to talk about show in general.Once again Thanks.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
December 8, 2015 at 5:18 pm #313975thedarkonedearieParticipantYeah sorry guys…just seemed like a ton of negativity from a show we all love. I know there were some disappointments but these writers aren’t gonna please everyone right? Just wanted to input some positive things I thought the show was doing and was hoping for healthy banter. I hope no one took offense to anything I said and I wasn’t trying to attack anybody. Here’s what I hope they address in season 5b:
– They absolutely need to wrap up the camelot characters. No brainer here.
– After what they promised, they have to give us Mulan and Ruby, and lots of it to make it seem genuine and real.
– Please make it so these villains in the underworld actually have a purpose and aren’t just there because they could get them for the 100th episode.
– I’d love to see Mulan’s story somehow tie in to the dragon from season 2. But I doubt that will happen.
– Start setting up the end game. They say they have an end in mind, let’s start laying the foundation here. I anticipate one more season and that’s it.
– Please let Hades be super cool and not as lame as let’s say, Hook’s father.
– Maybe address Malificient and Lily…like are they really just going to pretend they aren’t there anymore?
– Name the dang baby already!
– Henry needs to be important and do more things than just have a crush.
– Emma vs. Rumple. Rumple in my mind has always been the best villain and the driving force behind the evil on this show. I feel like they have set up this battle for awhile now. Let’s see this develop now that Rumple is dark once again.
December 8, 2015 at 7:17 pm #313991RumplesGirlKeymasterI hope no one took offense to anything I said and I wasn’t trying to attack anybody.
No offense. God knows I’ve dealt with worse running this place for the past 4.5 years. Just please familiarize yourself with our rules because I know you’re fairly new. Infractions are forgiven but only up to a point.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 9, 2015 at 6:37 am #314035onceaholicParticipantWhere to start? Seeing as this could be the last few episodes of Once…..(and these are more ”wants” than ”hopes” because I have less hope than Snow White before learning that she was marked for the Underworld)…
1) Regina confesses to Emma that she raped and killed Graham.
2) Regina confesses to Robin that she locked up Marian and was going to execute her.
3) Regina verbally acknowledging and apologising to Snow and everyone else all the pain and suffering she has caused, showing true remorse and regret. Regina also admitting that Snow was just a girl when told Cora about Daniel, and even if she was an adult there was no reason to be so revengeful.
4) Regina giving the hearts from her vault back to the people who are still alive, and respectfully burying the rest, even if it was her mother that pulled the remaining hearts.
5) Regina getting her fertility back
6) WE FINALLY FIND OUT WHY ALL THESE CHARACTERS ARE ALIVE AND ALIVE AT THE SAME TIME AS EACH OTHER IN THE FIRST PLACE.
7) We find out why Blue Fairy is so useless.
8) We find out why dark magic came out of Merlin even though he was supposed to be all light.
9) We find out why Hook had no DO symptoms prior to finding out that he was a DO.
10) They continue the storyline of Arthur’s plan to take over Storybrooke.
11) That dwarf-tree gets turned back into a dwarf.
12) We see more of Violet, Mal and Lily.
13 )Henry getting more of a story line. Remember when he used to matter? No? Me neither.
14) We get an explanation as to why Robin insists he has a dark past. More fleshing out of Robin in general, please, and have him stronger and more useful to the current plot as well.
15) More development for Robin and Regina’s relationship in the missing year, please. I saw no sexual tension whatsoever. Just tolerance that turned to a deep hatred of each other. I didn’t find their banter playful or laced with sexual attention at all. I found Regina to be just plain rude and mean to Robin.
16) We find out exactly why it took Regina 9 months to cast the DC-The Original Edition whereas everyone else took seconds.
17) Overall, going back to the original roots of the world-building and within-show mythology without unncessary new-magical-item-of the week parades. Bring back the BF!!!
18) Clarity over the definition of ”realm”. According to the evidence, the meaning is constantly switching between ”kingdom”, ”continent” and ”world”.
Regarding (6)
My old theory from just before season 3 was that these characters existed due to the Lost Boys, and children from our world believing in them and retelling their stories over and over until they came to exist (like a mash-up of Neverending Story and Sophie’s World). Then they got caught in a time-loop, repeating the same events over and over but gathering/drawing in new characters until they figured out ways to resolve their issues and become better people.This process could also be generating magic or drawing magic from the universe for the blue fairy or some other god-like being to use.
My new one is this.
Some evil souls departed from possibily our world and were reincarnated as fairytale, mythological, legendary and other kinds of fictional characters. They then had to go through the motions as these characters, suffering, reedeeming themselves, and reaching for happy endings until they finally achieve them. The Underworld may represent a gateway or another level between the purgatory they are in (or a stronger level of purgatory) and their final destination: Heaven or Hell.
(The likes of SW for example may have been someone awful in a past life and was doomed to suffer at hands of EQ for example).
Perhaps the explanation is somewhere between the two. And I am yet to figure out how the author fits into it all. Maybe his work was used as a way of reporting to whomever what these characters were doing and whether they deserve a way out of purgatory and passage to a better place.
But hey, world-building plot holes show up in every episode these days so our theories don’t need to be tight anymore. lol.
If the writers bother to address (6) and have a better explanation than me that actually fits in with all of the within-show mythology/world building we have seen so far, especially the core ones, I would be very very happy and could walk away from this show somewhat satisfied.
Keeper of Regina's bravery
December 9, 2015 at 2:36 pm #314044RumplesGirlKeymaster6) WE FINALLY FIND OUT WHY ALL THESE CHARACTERS ARE ALIVE AND ALIVE AT THE SAME TIME AS EACH OTHER IN THE FIRST PLACE.
That one.
Also why our versions of the stories are so different from the OUATverse
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 10, 2015 at 5:16 pm #314123PriceofMagicParticipantI’d like to see RumBelle together where one is not lying to the other, they’re not fighting, and they’re not breaking up. I’d like to see RumBelle just be happy together for more than 1.5 seconds.
I’d like to see CS break up because of the hurtful things Hook said and did as the DO. Then throughout the rest of the season/season 6, Hook and Emma can begin to rebuild their relationship and become friends. The series should end leaving it up to fans’ preferences as to whether or not Hook and Emma remain friends or whether they get back together romantically.
I’d like to see Belle have decent screentime but I won’t hold my breath. (If Emilie’s pregnancy is the reason why she’s not been given scenes the she could sue A&E for discrimination. What adds salt to the wound though is that Ginny is pregnant as well yet she’s still working).
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixDecember 15, 2015 at 9:22 am #314245sherazadeParticipantMy hope is that they’ll use this whole underworld thing in order to give the characters a chance to resolve some issues (not add more issues/characters).
– I want to see old characters (possibly dead ones in the underworld)/plot points revisited, and given proper closure.
– Emma makes the whole journey, in order to learn she finally needs to let go of Hook. It’s what he wanted her to do in the first place.
– Rumple to find out that this whole brush with heroism did affect him (no more throwaway character development please!) and makes some decent choices for a change.
– Regina and Emma’s friendship getting a lot of screentime (seriously, these two actresses have great chemistry).
– Robin to either get written out, or gain some character depth beyond “Regina’s boyfriend”.
– Some consistency in Belle’s characterisation. Really? The moment Rumple is actually a decent human being, she doesn’t want to be with him and the moment he’s back to his old ways, she does? I thought she was supposed to be a good judge of character.
– Seriously, I meant it: Dont add anymore throwaway characters! Only introduce new characters when they’re important to the plot (like Merlin in 5a)
– While you’re at it: no more flashbacks! Though switching between Storybrooke/the underworld would be ok. The characters who did not go to the underworld deserve some screentime and more importantly: character developement, too. (And that Arthur thing needs to get resolved. Here’s to hoping Guinevere will be the one to defeat Arthur.)
December 15, 2015 at 9:56 am #314246TheWatcherParticipantHere’s to hoping Guinevere will be the one to defeat Arthur.)
And that the spell over her will be broken by the TLK of Lancelot and they get to live happily ever after
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