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Okay I’ve heard some complaints that Zelena came off whiny…while I totally don’t disagree with you I can’t totally agree with you either especially if you look deeper. Zelena for all intensive purposes didn’t seem to have the best childhood especially depending on how early her non birth mother died. Her father didn’t look like the nicest guy in oz either. Also Zelena is going through Idenity crisis. Cora gave her up and gave everything to Regina, if the same situation happened to you you’d feel very P.Ow’d yourself. Also Zelena is like a fire, a fire constantly burning but unlike Regina who’s fire is tame and controlled Zelena’s is wild and easily enflamed, especially when’s she’s losing or in a position of weakness. What I’m getting at is Zelena is emotionally unstable and that’s why I think she acted the way she did in the episode. But these are my thought’s on that part of the episode which I really thought overall was good. What do you think?
[adrotate group="5"]if you look deeper. Zelena for all intensive purposes didn’t seem to have the best childhood especially depending on how early her non birth mother died
The following character did not having the best childhood:
Rumple
Regina
Emma
Snow and Charming both lost a parent
Cora (from what we’ve seen)
Perhaps Hook
Nealfire
But as to your overall thesis: yes. She has parental issues (like everyone else on ONCE) and hers stem from abandonment thrice over, by Cora and then rejection by her adopted Father and then rejection from the man she wanted to be both daughter and wife for, Rumple.
But it doesn’t change the way Bex chose to portray her. And while I agree it was apt given Zelena’s overall psychology, it was still borderline shrill.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Zelena was born with magic. Strong magic, different from everyone else in her family. Magic things happened when her emotions changed, and there was nobody around to explain it to her when she was young. She’s different. And her father didn’t abandon her, he was cruel to her. Not just mean or bitter, he was cruel and demeaning to her.
Her words to Rumple, as she shaved him, and I’m paraphrasing, you have to look presentable on the outside so what’s rotting on the inside won’t show.
Her back story was told so quickly that we never really got to see her feelings slowly fester and rot inside her, but they did. We never saw how her father rotted her pride, her confidence, her soul.
But then, the wizard showed her what was. She saw what could have been. She changed it to what should have been, and eventually what she would spend her life working toward. To get what she thought should be hers. Her obsessive self pity, her sense of entitlement, greed, envy, rage. Those ore strong emotions. Very strong. And when you can’t learn to reign them in, and put them in perspective, you become unstable.
So, yeah, I agree. She’s emotionally unstable.I cant help but agree with this post. I believe that Zeleena like Rumple Regina dn cora is unstable emotinoally. they each have their own wy of showing it.
As to her being shrill its part of the wicked witch character. “I’ll get you my pretty.” “No good deed goes unpunished.” are both phrases best said shrilly in a rage.
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Well I agree with the title. ‘Unstable’ is the perfect word for this woman. Did you hear the way she yelled ‘I will get everything you ever had’ at Regina. Zero control. Completely off the deep end.
I think the fact that we’ve seen similar backstories before, is why I can’t feel much sympathy towards her now and that is a big mistakes by the writers. See the thing is they’re trying to top something that can’t be topped. Rumpelstiltskin’s life is the most tragic of all characters (in my opinion). He takes the cake in the sad past department. By letting her be abandoned 3 times over, it’s like they’re saying, hey look here’s someone who’s even more abandoned than everyone else, feel sorry for her. That’s not the way to do it.
Try something other than abandonment, because it very quickly makes people go: yeah yeah been there done that. The topic doesn’t have the same weight to it as it once did.
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I think she comes off as even more unhinged because her lunacy repeats what we’ve seen already with Rumple, Regina and Cora.
Try something other than abandonment, because it very quickly makes people go: yeah yeah been there done that. The topic doesn’t have the same weight to it as it once did.
Yeah exactly. It’s getting repetitive. I’d like to have a villain who I can sympathy for, but who wasn’t abandoned as a child. Try something else.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Yeah, in this world the people with the strongest magic have some of the strongest emotions–since the two are linked, it makes sense that the magic users tend to be somewhat unstable.
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Each villain became a villain for different reasons, but all stem from the same issue…parents.
Regina had an emotionally/physically abusive mother, and a weak father who did nothing to stop it.
Cora had a miserable life with a drunk of a father.
Rumple had the absolute worst father ever on this series who abandoned him.
Hook seemed to have a good life, and I assume his parents died when he was young.
Zelena had a good mother who died later, leaving her to an emotionally abusive father.
Out of all these villains…we can all pretty much sum up that Zelena has more screws loose than the others, but my question is why? What makes her so different that she has to be crazier…I just didn’t see the reason behind her wickedness besides jealousy and greed.
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Out of all these villains…we can all pretty much sum up that Zelena has more screws loose than the others, but my question is why? What makes her so different that she has to be crazier…I just didn’t see the reason behind her wickedness besides jealousy and greed.
If this had been the first time A and E had introduced the idea of child abandonment leads to mental instability, then I’d applaud their creation of this villain and be more open to her story.
But the fact is, it’s not. It is the exact same formula they’ve used in the past. And that’s why I find it less appealing because OF COURSE she has abandonment issues and parent issues and rage.
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