Zelena Returning In 4B

[TheWatcher]

So I typed a post awhile ago but it doesn’t seem to have posted so here I go again….

I think its a good idea that Zelena is back (for a flashback). There was a lot of time between her leaving Rump and getting Glinda out of Oz and the main cast returning to the EF. She coul have had interactions with tons of people including the Queens of Darkness. Its not a terrible idea that she is back for a simple flashback. If she were back for good, then I could understand some of what you guys are saying but ehh. I would see Pan coming back for a flashback as a good thing but for this particular storyline I would find it odd since I don’t see how and why he would have any connections to the author or sorcerer or queens of darkness so yeah. Even Pan coming back in present day for good would be odd for me and I loved him. It always seemed Zelena wasn’t truly gone anyway, A&E always acted like we would see her again so im not surprised. All in all, im happy and excited to see this. Plus I like Oz 😛  I don’t see it as them bringing back all the villains for a happy ending.

[PriceofMagic]

Yeah…I’m going to have to really disagree with this statement.

First of all…if we really want to take all of this back, who pursued who first? Rumple right?

Wrong. Zelena was the one who made the first move. Rumple didn’t even know she existed until she turned up in the EF in Regina’s castle. As Zelena said when she saw Rumple teaching Regina in Walsh’s floor “He shouldn’t be teaching her. He should be teaching me!”

And who trained Zelena? Rumple right?

Rumple did train her but only because he was hedging his bets. Rumple has trained many other characters as well.

And who didn’t finish unfinished business with Zelena in Oz, when he knew she was a serious threat????? Rumple right????????

So you’re criticising Rumple for not killing Zelena at an earlier point in time?

And Zelena didn’t murder Rumple when he was powerless and pleading for his life just after he finally learned that he had someone who would have his back. He robbed Zelena of a chance at redemption.

Rumple considered sacrificing himself to stop Pan his redemption. Zelena manipulating people to bring Rumple back then enslaving him robbed him of that redemption.

Let’s take it a little deeper shall we, Rumple had EVERY right to kill Zelena right up to the moment when he looked Belle in the face and vowed that he wouldn’t, and yes, I know he worded it the way he did, but the mere fact he promised nonetheless. He lost that right the moment he told Belle he wouldn’t kill her, but given he’s broken his word before…I’m not that surprised.

Rumple never said he wouldn’t kill her. He never promised. He changed the subject.

Not only did killing Zelena dishonor his son’s dying wishes to not backslide, but he lied to his fiancée.

And Rumple is suffering the consequences of his actions now. However, none of the other characters are actually mourning Zelena’s demise or feeling bad for her so it’s not like he took out someone like Archie.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[MatthewPaul]

I’m going to have to politely insist that this debate over whether it was justified Rumple killed Zelena or not stop right here. As RG stated earlier, it’s been debated to death with no side giving in, and it really doesn’t have a place in this thread. This thread is about Zelena returning, and continuing that debate is just going unnecessarily offtopic. Let’s keep the focus on that. Thank you.

[PriceofMagic]

So with Zelena returning for flashbacks, I wonder if we’ll see her wearing any of her own costumes or if she’s going to raid Regina’s wardrobe again?

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[TheWatcher]

So with Zelena returning for flashbacks, I wonder if we’ll see her wearing any of her own costumes or if she’s going to raid Regina’s wardrobe again?

I hope so. Lana is jeaulous of the wardrobe they have for Maleficent so they had better not slack on Zelena, although I guess it depends on when the flashback takes place (when she was a peasent, during her reign in Oz, or after she came to the EF and the others were gone). Beause if its when she was in the EF she is probably wearing only Regina’s old clothes.

My biggest thing is simply…why is she having a flashback? She or something pertaining to her has to be important to the current present day plot. Besides Walsh and his shop, any other ideas guys?

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
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[WickedRegal]

PriceofMagic wrote:

So with Zelena returning for flashbacks, I wonder if we’ll see her wearing any of her own costumes or if she’s going to raid Regina’s wardrobe again?

I hope so. Lana is jeaulous of the wardrobe they have for Maleficent so they had better not slack on Zelena, although I guess it depends on when the flashback takes place (when she was a peasent, during her reign in Oz, or after she came to the EF and the others were gone). Beause if its when she was in the EF she is probably wearing only Regina’s old clothes. My biggest thing is simply…why is she having a flashback? She or something pertaining to her has to be important to the current present day plot. Besides Walsh and his shop, any other ideas guys?

I don’t know…Zelena had some really nice wardrobe in Oz. That black dress with the furred collar…fierce! I honestly don’t know why Zelena is getting a flashback….Cruella and Ursula definetly haven’t gone to Oz I don’t think…Maleficent’s my best bet. Either that or this really is the Missing year flashback…maybe Regina and Zelena had a run in, and it’s paralleling the run in Regina’s having with the Queens of Darkness?

"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

[PriceofMagic]

In the episode where Zelena starts to turn green, she is actually wearing one of Regina’s EQ dresses in the dark castle.

Could this be a Rumple centric and the flashback is to the missing year hence why Zelena is there?

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[TheWatcher]

….Cruella and Ursula definetly haven’t gone to Oz I don’t think…Maleficent’s my best bet.

Ursula (assuming she atleast started out as a mermaid or is just a mermaid born with tentacles instead of fins) probably has the power to travel lands so its possible she met Zelena at some point for whateve reason. Cruella….well nothing about Cruella seems to be what we would expect seeing as she has magic and is from the enchanted forest so I think anything is possible with the liberties they are taking with her. But Maleficent is a definite no-go for me. Mal and Regina were friends. No way she knew this whole time Regina had a sister and just decided to not tell her.

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

[TheWatcher]

I HAVE IDEA!!!! Okay so rememeber when Zelena first met Walsh and he gave her the shoes to go to Rumpel? Well he asked her to bring him back a some kind of special magical object from Rumpelstiltskin that we never found out what it was or if she ever brought it at all. What if whatever this object is, Zelena DID bring it back to walsh or atleast she took it for herself and it is in Walsh’s shop now. She probably gav it to him when she sent him to woo Emma. That could be why Rump has Robin go into the shop, to look for it. It could be something they need to help them, something powerful.

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

[onceaholic]

Wow Zelena’s back! She is one of my favorite characters, so another reason to keep watching OUAT!

Yes, her voice was shrill and at time annoying, but I think it suited the character perfectly. I think the actress did a wonderful job portraying a hysterical BPD character-bang on accurate, just like Lana’s performance.

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