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Well i wasnt going to post it here, for many reasons being one, i dont have hope in this, but there are certain curiosities, OUAT story line and WOT.
As someone that used to be fan of wot books, should have notice, so i talked with a friend you all know @ozma, and she is even more fan than me of wot, she used to be envolved in foruns and stuff like that, once i told her about this theory she went to her files and sent me some things, she even start reading the books again, although she doesnt ahve many hope that this come true, especially bc the writers and actor confirmed this.
Besides the characters, there is someone name Blue, Dark One, Moiraine and a heapon called Balefire( that has the ability to change the past).
The colors on WOT are green and red, the same as the colors of regina and zelena gloves.
There are 3 symbols, there is a sword, a heart of stone and a another stone that can control some people and some things.
The dark one is closed in a hole in the ground a sort of vault. Where there souls and shadows are, and were the pattern is weaker.
Certain statements by characters throughout the series have also led to the theory that the Pattern itself is the Dark One’s prison. One prime example of this is that the hole in the Dark One’s prison, the Bore, is described as being the thinnest area of the Pattern. Alternatively this could mean that the Pattern is somewhat of a protective bubble, not meant to imprison the Dark One but rather to protect those that live within the Pattern, and that this “thinnest area” could be where the Dark One wore away at the Pattern trying to “break in”.An example of this could be found in the descriptions of the True Power, its use being granted only by the Dark One himself, and its abilities free of the gender restrictions of the One Power, as well as being able to accomplish some things thought impossible with the One Power. This may indicate that a power completely separate from the One Power exists, and if such is true then one can assume that not all things are part of or birthed from the Pattern. Another example could be derived from speculation about the amount of influence the Dark One has over the Pattern. The Dark One is able to influence the Pattern greatly, and even more so the closer one travels toward Shayol Ghul and the Bore. This level of control over the Pattern greatly overshadows the influence that even ta’veren have on the Pattern. The Age of Legends was a veritable utopia nearly free of all violence, corruption, and completely free of the Dark One’s influence. Moving along this line of thinking one can discern that the Pattern cannot be manipulated outside of itself and therefore the Pattern, rather than a prison acts as a barrier preventing the Dark One from entering and thus preventing his influence.”
There are a militar order that is called the children of light, that have the main gole of fighting the darkfriends, the people that use magic, and guess what their symbol is the same of Philip kingdom, a sun.
There is a one Tower, where the female persons with magic, called the one power, thsi sort of reminds me of BF and the nuns, in WOT are called Aes Sedai.
The pattern is the same as wheel of time( destiny) and has like a aspect of the big part of a dreamcatcher, and you can some times see if that person was supposed to die or not, ( if was her time or not).
There is a talk to a final batle that will occur between light and darkness, like that the description about ouat that a final battle would start.
Also, they sometimes travel to other places through mirrors.
There is a description of the wheel of time given by one of the characters, Moiraine:
The Wheel of Time weaving the universe“The Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills, and we are only the thread of the Pattern.”
—Moiraine Damodred
And who do we know that weaves? Rumple.
About the Balefire, i think was already mentioned here, but i will put the description again:
“Balefire in use
When a target is struck with balefire, its thread in the pattern is destroyed, in an amount proportional to the power of the balefire strike. This translates to the target’s existence being completely erased, chronologically in reverse. For example, should an Aes Sedai use balefire on an attacking bandit, the bandit’s action of attacking the Aes Sedai and anything leading up to the action of the attack would be erased; this would be determined by the power of the balefire attack. The stronger the balefire, the further back in time the object in question will be burned from the pattern. This can have serious consequences on the pattern; the use of an extremely powerful blast of balefire to destroy a great number of lives at once has been shown to produce an effect referred to as a “balescream,” the sound of the Pattern itself groaning under the strain of rearranging itself around such a large gap. All events that could have been said to have “happened” before the destruction of an individual’s thread are remembered by any other individual, though the physical reality of the situation is now changed; anyone that was witness or party to the “reversal” of time will still remember all the events that were undone as if they had actually happened even if the effects themselves no longer exist.
The weave to create balefire with saidin uses Fire and Air.”
“Balefire can even bring people back from the dead, or rather, prevent them from dying in the first place; Aviendha, Asmodean and Matrim Cauthon were brought back to life when Rahvin was hit by balefire with enough force to undo the attack that caused their deaths. In another instance, Mat was saved when the Darkhounds that attacked him were burned away to the point before injuring him.”About the dark one and the balefire:
“The Dark One is unable to resurrect any person who is killed by balefire, mentioning himself that he is not capable of “stepping outside of Time.” As balefire technically causes a person to die in the past, it is assumed that the Dark One can only resurrect someone within a certain time-span, with balefire exceeding that limit. Another possibility is that due to the nature of the wheel, when a person dies, their thread does not end, but is simply set aside until it is used again/reincarnated as another person. Balefire burns the thread meaning that the thread can no longer be used in the Pattern’s weave.
In terms of defending against it, balefire appears to be unblockable by any other weaves of the One Power. Cuendillar is the only substance known to withstand balefire’s effects, but whether it is capable of blocking or deflecting it is unknown.[2] Callandor, while infused with the Power, was observed on one occasion to have the ability to part a stream of balefire and it is suspected that the crystal sa’angreal is made of a type of cuendillar. The only time the One Power has prevented balefire from reaching its target was during Rand’s duel with Sammael: Rand and Moridin’s balefire crossed paths, forming an unexplained link between them. These two instances are the only known occurrences of balefire being either blocked or diverted in the waking world. In Tel’aran’rhiod, Perrin is able to block balefire with the palm of his hand, dismissing it as “meaningless.”
Typically, when struck with balefire, the target’s colors will reverse (a Halfman will appear as white clothes on a black body instead of black clothes on a white body), and the object will fade away. When Rahvin was struck with a very powerful bolt however, he simply vanished without the typical scenario.
In order for a channeler to create balefire, he or she must be very strong in the Power. Moraine admits to only barely being able to form the weave yet at the time she was among the strongest living Aes Sedai. There is at least one ter’angreal capable of producing balefire, stolen from the White Tower by Liandrin’s Group of Black Sisters, allowing this inconvenience to be circumvented, though they are almost impossible to control.”
Sorry this is so big, once again this is all curiosity, bc i don have hope and my friend says that she believes there are more coincidences, but she thinks are only that coincidences, she says that no way this will be A/E choice, bc this is not done in 2 epi, this would mean at least a season to show, and and for that zelena would have to be a vilain also next year, and they probably only brought her for this 11 epi.
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It IS all very curious, there are too many coincidences to be mere coincidence IMO (there’s even a special Tower? Well we just had an ep called The Tower). And I don’t think it would require more than an ep or two, because they tend to power through plot points on this show and wrap them up quickly and move on. And it’s not as though they would be copying WoT exactly, they COULDN’T for copyright reasons, their spin on it would be a FAR simpler version which wouldn’t take long to explain and have play out within the confines of the show.
Wow this sounds like a great book! *off to the library* I am a HUGE fan of time travel, so how is it that I never heard of it…?
Wow this sounds like a great book! *off to the library* I am a HUGE fan of time travel, so how is it that I never heard of it…?
this a series of 15 books, one prequel and then 14 that make the story, each book has like more than 900 pages.
Also printed in The World of Robert Jordan’s The Wheel of Time.
0. New Spring pags:332 chapt:26 words 121,81 5 January 2004
1. The Eye of the World 832 53 305,902 15 January 1990
2. The Great Hunt 736 50 267,078 15 November 1990
3. The Dragon Reborn 704 56 251,392 15 October 1991
4. The Shadow Rising 1,008 58 393,823 15 September 19925. The Fires of Heaven 992 56 354,109 15 October 1993
6. Lord of Chaos 1,024 55 389,264 15 October 1994
7. A Crown of Swords 896 41 295,028 15 May 1996
8. The Path of Daggers 704 31 226,687 20 October 1998
9. Winter’s Heart 800 35 238,789 7 November 2000
10. Crossroads of Twilight 864 30 271,632 7 January 2003
11. Knife of Dreams 793 37 315,163 11 October 2005
12. The Gathering Storm 1,071 50 303,630 27 October 2009 Completed by Brandon Sanderson.13. Towers of Midnight 864 57 328,000 2 November 2010
14. A Memory of Light 909 49 357,523 8 January 2013Actually there are several towers, the tower where are located the aes sedai( the good ones) there is also a dark tower for the forces of evil and one of the books is named tower of midnight.
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Thanks for the info. I already have the eye of the world and great hunt on hold in my library
You are welcome.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
There was a line in 3×19 from Rumple’s sing-song madness in the Dark Castle flashback which did stick out to me.
Rumplestiltskin: Round and round the circle of time, racing towards the finish line.
Harkens back to the series “Wheel of Time” in which a character’s life can be “baelfired” (his past can be changed). Hmmmmm.
So far, we know Zelena wants a “second chance” which is exactly what Neal wanted. Zelena wants to change the past. Zelena taunted Rumple with brining back his son. Now we have a “circle of time” reference. I’m just going to leave it there for now.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Rumple’s “circle of time” line definitely jumped out and reminded me of this Wheel of Time related theory.
Can they really leave Snowing walking around, sharing a heart for all time? Couldn’t that make them weaker as a team, if one of them dies, would the other die by default?
Are they really gonna leave Philora as Flying Monkeys for all time? Aurora hadn’t even had the baby yet, so if they stay monkeys, that baby never gets born, which is rather tragic. Were they potentially two of the monkeys that got shot? Were innocent SBers like Little John and missing Dwarves potentially among the monkeys that got shot? That would be pretty tragic.
They could resolve both the shared heart issue, and the monkified (and potentially killed) people issue by turning back time so those events never happened.
I was thinking back to last year’s finale (2×22) when something suddenly occurred to me. How did Peter Pan get a picture of Henry 300 years before Henry was even born? The answer then came in a flash. Zelena’s time travel spell, of course! That is how Peter Pan knew what Henry would look like centuries before he was even born. Somehow Peter Pan figured out who exactly would be the boy with the heart of the truest believer, the son of light magic and dark magic. Henry is the perfect candidate to bring “balance to the force” and could potentially have magic of his own. When he was born, the lights flickered, just like they did when Snow’s second baby was born. I’ve got no idea if Zelena and Peter Pan ever met, but assuming they did meet in the past, it would make for a very interesting episode in S4. Rather than Peter Pan seeing the future that Henry would be the boy he needed, the future came to Peter Pan.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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