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October 21, 2014 at 5:26 pm #286706Heart of DarknessParticipant
So, in this episode we finally saw Zoso, Rumple’s predecessor as the Dark One, make another appearance. Previously, he was only seen back in Season 1, Episode 8 – “Desperate Souls” in the flashback that showed us how Rumple got his powers (61 episodes ago!)
What did you think about seeing Zoso again?
What motives did he have for seeking out the Hat?
Do you think this is the oldest event we’ve seen so far?
[adrotate group="5"]October 21, 2014 at 5:38 pm #286710MatthewPaulModeratorI’m not sure if I’d say this is the oldest event, because it largely depends on how long Zoso was alive for and what point of his life did this event occur. The flashback with young Rumple and his dad Malcolm might still be the oldest event that we’ve seen.
October 21, 2014 at 7:00 pm #286728RumplesGirlKeymasterI’m not sure if I’d say this is the oldest event, because it largely depends on how long Zoso was alive for and what point of his life did this event occur. The flashback with young Rumple and his dad Malcolm might still be the oldest event that we’ve seen.
I actually think the Malcolm/Rumple thing is the oldest and here’s why. I think at this point in Zoso’s life he’s looking for a way out. He wants to rid himself of the curse. After he fails with the hat, he’s going to start looking for a desperate soul. So I think this is the second oldest.
@Keb, what do you think?"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 21, 2014 at 11:06 pm #286785GaultheriaParticipantThe makeup didn’t seem right for him. I thought the power would manifest differently for each Dark One, and gold is Rumpel’s theme.
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October 21, 2014 at 11:18 pm #286791obisgirlParticipantI’m not sure if I’d say this is the oldest event, because it largely depends on how long Zoso was alive for and what point of his life did this event occur. The flashback with young Rumple and his dad Malcolm might still be the oldest event that we’ve seen.
I actually think the Malcolm/Rumple thing is the oldest and here’s why. I think at this point in Zoso’s life he’s looking for a way out. He wants to rid himself of the curse. After he fails with the hat, he’s going to start looking for a desperate soul. So I think this is the second oldest.
I agree. But it was nice to hear he wasn’t the First Dark One and there have been many others before Zoso.
October 21, 2014 at 11:19 pm #286792RumplesGirlKeymasterI agree. But it was nice to hear he wasn’t the First Dark One and there have been many others before Zoso.
Agreed. And I’m sticking with my headcanon that Blue created the Dark One’s curse.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 21, 2014 at 11:21 pm #286793obisgirlParticipantSo I guess the two questions are: how old is the Dark One power and who was the real original Dark One?
October 21, 2014 at 11:33 pm #286796RumplesGirlKeymasterSo I guess the two questions are: how old is the Dark One power and who was the real original Dark One?
1) Very
2) Blue’s Lover. I’ve had this headcanon forever now. I stand by it!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 26, 2014 at 11:17 pm #287589Hook’s GirlParticipantI’m not sure if I’d say this is the oldest event, because it largely depends on how long Zoso was alive for and what point of his life did this event occur. The flashback with young Rumple and his dad Malcolm might still be the oldest event that we’ve seen.
I actually think the Malcolm/Rumple thing is the oldest and here’s why. I think at this point in Zoso’s life he’s looking for a way out. He wants to rid himself of the curse. After he fails with the hat, he’s going to start looking for a desperate soul. So I think this is the second oldest.
@Keb, what do you think?
I agree. 2nd oldest scene. He still had the dagger. His cloak looked like the one he wore in Desperate Souls. This failed attempt is probably what triggered him wanting to be rid of his curse. I wonder how he & other DOs knew that the hat could free them of the dagger’s dependency.
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