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Thank you all for your great points and insights.
I think Hook’s “secret” was probably one of the most romantic things I’ve seen on OUAT. The combination of the writing and acting sent chills down my spine.
When I heard the podcast today, I was annoyed to hear the argument that it’s SwanFire and they deserve to be a whole family and anything else is not acceptable. Then I realized that there will always be people holding steadily onto Emma and Neal, no matter what Hook does and no matter how much it seems that Hook and Emma’s lives are colliding towards one another. Heck, there are some people who are probably holding on to a ship like Evil Charming (to each their own!)
My thoughts – don’t worry what the others say. Enjoy the storytelling right now. We finally got a pay off between Hook and Emma this season so far. I am pretty sure there is going to be more since he is in LOVE with her!
I can see Emma stepping away from both guys until she sorts out her feelings. My only concern is that once they “save Henry”, there will probably be another crisis. I have enjoyed this season’s one-on-one talks that are not clouded by one plot line after another (like the second half of Season 2). My only hope is that this season stays on the trajectory that it’s been going on. I love the character development happening, especially Emma and Hook’s. I haven’t seen much development for Neal just yet. Just sayin’.
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Thanks for sharing these, Moraha! I really enjoyed them!
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Stelio Kontos wrote: pretty good points actually
Yeah, because I’ve always wondered why I could never really bond or empathise with Neal as a character – Bae for sure, but never Neal. Now I know why!
I really have to agree with a lot of that essay says. I’m with you Eala, I can’t really connect with Neal as a character either.
Really thought this was good. I can’t seem to connect with Neal, either. I love Bae and really feel for his story but there is a disconnect between Bae and Neal. I think if they showed Neal pre-Emma trying to assimilate to our world, I would understand him more.
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Josephine wrote: I could see Peter doing that too. Give Hook enough rope to hang himself by and then step in and tighten the noose. That would be twisted and so totally Pan.
I could see that happening, too. Did anyone else catch the look that Peter Pan gave Killian Jones when they first met on the beach of NL in the flashback? Robbie Kay is an amazing actor, and he gave Killian a sly look like he knew what part Killian would play eventually in the Baelfire-Emma saga.
Yeah he took one look at Killian and was like “ah. You’ve arrived. Right on time. Good lad.” Somehow that boy knows things.
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RumplesGirl wrote: Does anyone else wonder if Peter Pan might tell Emma? He does love his games. He could tell Emma that Neal is alive and someone in her company knows and kept it from her. Peter might want them divided amongst themselves because then they are fighting each other and not looking for Henry.
see that’s why I think Hook will tell her he of all of them knows most about how Pan operates he’ll want to get out in front of this before Pan can use it against him.
but will he tell her in time? From the promo next week we see that Regina catches up with Rumple who obviously knows that Nealfire is alive. Will Rumple tell Regina who tells Emma just before Hook does?
Unless Regina breaks off on her own and meets up with Rumple
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Stelio Kontos wrote: Just checking we’re all going nuts in here right?! Hook has to tell Emma he’s a man of honor I think if he plans to really win her over he has to let her know and do it the right way.
LOL NO WAY HE ISN’T GOING TO TELL HER HE’LL STRUGGLE BUT HE HAS SPENT THE LAST FEW EPISODES BEGGING CHARMING TO TELL HIS FAMILY HE’S DYING BECAUSE IT WOULD HURT THEM HE WILL TELL, OF THAT I HAVE NO DOUBT
I hope he does the honorable thing and tells her. I am worried that Pan might do something. I can see him trying to drive a wedge between our lovebirds!
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@captaineala It was BRILLIANT! I am still processing it. I’ll need to watch it again.
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moraha wrote: I never would have thought we get this as a sneak. I won’t watch it now, even if its hard. I wanna see it in the episode. And considering what you wrote Eala – it’s worth the wait.
I’m doing the same thing.
Me three! I’m holding off, as tempting as it is!
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I’ve been thinking about last episode and I am not worried just yet.I think an important thing to note is that Hook is COURTING Emma this season . He’s trying to prove it to her by finding her son, trying to get her father’s approval and being as helpful as he can be. It’s old-fashioned and romantic. This is not a quick, lustful relationship on his side. I don’t think the writers would make him fall in love with Emma only to have her break his heart, his dreams and his happy ending. It would make the protagonist of the entire show look cold, unsympathetic and cruel. That is not in Emma’s character!
Also, in the promo, Charming tells Hook to get away from his daughter. This is a logical reaction from Charming. Hook has an option to a) deny it b) admit he cares him or c) perhaps says he loves her. If it’s the latter two, it could mean that Charming knows his secret and perhaps when Neal comes back, he will side with Hook. Hook has been doing the honorable thing in trying to court Emma. All Neal has shown them right now is breaking Emma’s heart, leaving her to go to jail, leaving her PREGNANT, and then coming back with a fiancé, who ended up putting them in this situation. I don’t think the Charmings would have open arms to Neal right now. If the writers do decide to have Snowing forget all that and praise Neal, I would be baffled!
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AllThatGlitters – I completely agree and I bet the kiss! will definitely bring in more, as well as the Hook backstory in 3×05 – it’s about time!. It’ll do for him what Desperate Souls did for Rumple, and The Stable Boy did for Regina. I think some may *want* to believe him but are having a hard time looking past the innuendos. He’s far more serious this season and embracing his Killian side to help Emma and we’re seeing that more and more, but still don’t have the actual backstory which usually helps us warm up to characters we might otherwise question liking.
Yes, I think people know so little about Hook that they need context for him. I know most of us on the CS forum saw past Hook’s innuendos but I think a wider audience will now find it easier to embrace him.
Tumblr can be fun… It’s a nice way to avoid the hate and just love what you love and there are some very talented people! I love seeing the pics and gifsets as well as reading the thoughts. If I go there I just hide out in the Captain Swan tag for the most part but it’s nice to not feel so alone!
I just joined (allthatglittersonce) and am still learning the ropes. Of course, this place is my number one stop because I do like to view non-CS related topics as well. I like to see the discussions that arise here.
I am so looking forward to seeing tomorrow’s episode and 3×5 promo. Hang on for our wild ride the next couple weeks (hopefully months, hopefully years!!!)
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Welcome all new CS shippers! The more the merrier! I hope we receive a few more after episode 3×5 . It’s great to have discussion with other people who love OUAT as well as those who root for CS.
Similar to what you were saying @MysteryKat, I am looking forward to hearing more about Hook this season. I think once people learn his backstory, they might understand CaptainSwan a bit more. I think a big struggle for some people really liking the CS relationship is that people had a hard time warming up to Hook. I think this Season they have toned down the innuendo jokes without erasing the humor of his character. He is now someone to take more seriously, especially as a love interest.
@CaptainEala – I enjoyed that summary you gave on the Peter Pan/Wendy/Hook triangle. That’s a very interesting parallel. I might need to ponder that for a little bit…
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