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Hey guys,
For whose who saw my post when I first posted I really wanted to apologize, I was in a very dark place at the moment and vented on the forum. To be fair, I couldn’t handle the fandom and “its dramas” and should not have posted. I’m ashamed about it ^^
Anyway, a hug to you guys and I hope you can forgive me.
[adrotate group="5"]Ok I failed miserably , sorry =)
I’m not trying to be petty, I just would feel aweful if Neal dies, and appart from being a SFer, it’s just… Neal has, in my eyes, done a lot for others, and I would not understand that a character that does so much “get the shitty end of the stick”. I think it’s sad for a show about love and redemption, but that is only my opinion. And when I said I first thought “Hook” when reading about that spoiler, it’s not even bias. It’s because, still in my opinion, Hook has the least to bring now “storywise”. Anyway we’ll see and I’m hating this hiatus with a passion, right now =)
Ok, now let’s see if I can get this right, sorry guys ^^
EDIT now that I got the spoiler thing =)
Hello guys.
First I have to apologize to all of you, I’m in a pretty hard place right now and the first time I posted I posted to vent and wasn’t very intelligent. I did drink a lot that night, as said, I’m in a very hard place right now. And I thank you RG for being so understanding.
Now unto the present subject. I’m ashamed but had to come back for this. In all honnestly I thought “Hook” at first when reading the spoiler. Simply because to me his story is done (trying to be objective). And I feel like an a-hole because in all honnesty if Neal is to die… I might just loose interest in the show. Because Neal gave so much, sacrified so much, I would not understand how a show about happy endings have this kind of endings for him. It would be seriously sad?
Slurp, you’re my hero right now, you and the other ones giving hope. You guys made a lot of good points and… I am still hoping! Thank you for this thread <3
Aww *hug* ! Annwyn! I think we drive ourselves a bit crazy with spoilers (and remember to block them for those who don’t like them!), because you can imagine anything without context. Stories have a lot of flexibility, especially this one. Still the writers have made Neal and Emma two peas in a pod. They are culturally from two different worlds now, both experiencing trying to survive in a world so different from their own. They both were abandoned at a young age. Both had foster parents. Both lived on the streets. Both wished on the Blue Star for family. Both would die for Henry, but neither would kill an innocent even an innocent in the employ of a not-so-innocent for him unless absolutely necessary, no other choice scenario. Both would put an innocent at some calculated risk for their son. Both like hot chocolate with cinnamon. Both try to stand up for others who are being bullied (Neal with Whale, Emma with Ashley). Both are generally liked by other people, as oppose to the kind of person who rubs people the wrong way because they say and do mean things to amuse themselves. They never lost complete hope despite all the pain. They are resourceful. They are resilient. They want to forgive, but they don’t trust blindly either. They don’t expect others to do things for them.
I love Swanfire because, endgame or not, it’s poetic, as Adam said it himself =)
Those on fanforums are gonna hate me for the post I made but seriously, all this tiring thing about Neal vs Hook… it’s just that, tiring, it’s rottening every forums I go to, expect this one, actually. I am so tired to read things like “Hook is perfection. Neal is such an ….”
Sorry venting, I need to =)
But in the end, for all the things you mentioned, for all the obstacles that are thrown in one’s face, because love is also about pain and hurt, about forgiving, moving on. As I said, I loved that, I wish i had memorized the link, article about Aristophanes speech at The Symp, because that’s love. Sadly it hurts too. But it’s more powerful than the hurt, that’s what true love is about in my eyes.
As for CS, there is one thing I want to say. This show is about true love and really, one thing bothers me, appart from not seeing Hook as a truely romantic figure so far, giving his “smartass” quotes, but appart from that : It would be just too strange… unatrual and unreal to have Emma going into her happy ending with someone who could be her kid’ “grand daddy in law”. And I mean no offense, it just really screams more “messed up family” than true love to me. That’s why CSers unsettle me. Without wanting to be offensive.
Emma and Neal though, I love how… poetic that’s all and really, maybe I am the one with the blinkers but I really think Neal/Bae is a kind of Prince Charming.
My favorites characters in the show are Rumple, Emma, Neal, Regina because they are the most humans. Full of conflicts, oxymores and hurt too. Emma and Neal are the “light” side of the human spectrum, Rump and Regina the darkest one. But all of 4 have made mistakes, and in case of the “darkest” side, have been driven cold and cruel because of grief. And I can understand because we, silly little insignifant things are sometimes driven away by our emotions.
Anyway, I’ll see you at next episode guys, ty for the thread. And really I won’t regret my post on FF, because I am so tired about this crap about Neal vs Hook… Come on, seriously?
Hello everyone,
I’m just passing through, giving you a hug, because I do not like to specualte on “spoilers” pics and Adam’s sometimes obscure tweets that, in the end, just happened to be “much ado about nothing” =)
@bluebutterfly : I do hope they adress the jail issue actually, because of Adam’s tweets, so maybe we’ll hear no more of the “Neal sent her to jail, he’s evil and @#!”And maybe I’m just naive (which I am a bit too much actually in life), but I totally believe in SwanFire and I’m honnestly not worried.
*Group hug*
Welcome annwyn. At the moment I’m kind of shipping SwanFire. I tend to hover between SwanFire and CaptainSwan depending on what I see in an episode. Dark Hollow put me off of CaptainSwan and onto team Neal and I’ve yet to see anything from Hook since that makes me consider changing my mind. All the character growth Hook had built up between 301 and 306, he kind of ruined in 307. I do think CaptainSwan will happen, that it’ll run its course, then Emma and Neal can work on getting back together. Since we’re halfway through season 3, I doubt they’d introduce any more potential suitors for Emma so Hook and Neal are Emma’s two options.
Going to sleep, I’m so making a list later =)
and CS will probably happen. But it is biased because of my own experience but as I said, I can’t believe a show about true love will have Hook being a smarta… when Emma says “we need to talk”. Because that phrase… as old as the world. Such a stereotype but so true. Communication is a huge part in true love. But then experience, I may be wrong. It just felt… Wrong once again when Hook said that. I don’t know, it just really put me off.
PS : I’ll get more into this, I don’t think Hook is an aweful guy “he needs to die I cant stand him and bla”. I just really think he’s not the guy for Emma. More on this after a bit of sleep =)
Nighty guys <3
We don’t hate. We disagree but no hate going on here.
Ty girl, I really don’t meant to be offensive and I apologize if I did.
RumplesGirl wrote: For example, the lovely Obisgirl and I may be deeply entrenched on two ships but outside of the shippy ship ships we can find each others theories and thoughts perfectly valid and productive to analyzing OUAT as a whole.
I love you too RG! That post is just the perfect exemple of why I love this forum. Sorry guys, Im not trying to put oil on fire, I just think too much and thought : “boy they’re gonna HATE me if they read my post”
Just to make a few points for any and all We are most assuredly a ship and let ship (even if that ship is no ship) sort of forum. What’s nice here is that even if we’re on different ships, we all try very hard to get along outside of here on different thereads. For example, the lovely Obisgirl and I may be deeply entrenched on two ships but outside of the shippy ship ships we can find each others theories and thoughts perfectly valid and productive to analyzing OUAT as a whole. I think, for the most part, you’ll find that we stay out of each others threads (I am one of the exceptions naturally). SFers have welcomed conversation in their thread from CSers, even some very recently. And CSers have welcomes SFers if an occasion arose. The threads are meant to be havens in which you may gush, spaz, freak out, type in all caps until your fingers bleed and everyone can eat cookies. My take away point (cause I have one) is ship and let ship and respect all opinions. Carry on, my dear CSers.
Sorry RG, I tried to be diplomatic, I just didn’t want CSers stumbling on my post and hating me. Thus why. I don’t want to offend anyone.
