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@Naomi wrote:

Hey everyone! You might be onto something with the under-the-sea/merman idea. When Emma goes to interrogate him, did you notice that he immediately asks for a drink?

…OK. It’s a stretch. But maybe he’s uncomfortable without water or being far from the sea for long periods.

And maybe he doesn’t eat seafood because, well, he is a fish or fish-like.

…(shrugs)

Keep up the theorizing!

There was also the reference to Splash at the beginning when Grumpy was talking about what outsiders might do to the people of Storybrooke if they found out about the town. It would definitely be ironic if the person coming into town was actually a merman.

However, I’m not sure of a famous underwater story that could fit in with the casting call. My first thought was that he could be working for Ariel, and Her was the reference to her, but I can’t see someone working for Ariel that might potentially be a big bad for next season.

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@Midnight Dreary wrote:

😯 😯 😯 😯 😯 😯 😯 😯 😯 😯 😯

Writers, for the love of God please don’t kill Rumpel. He’s too awesome to die! 😥

Personally, my theory is that Cora and Regina raid Mr. Gold’s shop and steal what she thinks is the dagger, but is in fact a fake. Why would Gold keep the dagger in such an obvious place? Last time we saw the dagger it was burried far out into the woods. Rumpel is usually good at hiding things, so there’s no way he would keep is most priced weapon in the shop.

My final judgement: It’s a fake.

I hope so. I know they wouldn’t kill him off at least not this early, so either he’s going to do some kind of fake out, or the ending of Disney’s Beauty and the Beast idea happens. I do think that eventually Disney’s version will happen to Rumple, but I don’t know if it’s too soon.

Of course, he’d still have to atone for everything he’s done even if he’s no longer the Dark One, and it would be interesting to see him having to adjust to not having that power anymore next season. So maybe it’s not too soon after all to have Belle save him like that.

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@CinnamonHummingbird wrote:

Mhm…so the “respectful” Neal-dislikers are trolling here as well? 🙄 Whatever.

So what you are saying is if someone likes Hook they can’t possibly like Neal too? That is just crazy! I’m not sure you could have been ruder.

I can’t really speak for CinnamonHummingbird, but from my experience from mostly Tumblr but also a few other sites, the CaptainSwan shippers really went after the actor Michael Raymond-James with a vengeance by calling him all kinds of names about his personal appearance. There’s been a lull now or maybe I’ve been better at blocking them out, but I thought it was really immature and a very grade school mentality that just because they don’t like a Neal, which is fine because not everyone character and ship will be 100% loved, they had to attack the actor because of his looks. Now it’s not just the CaptainSwan shippers that did this because there have been other ships too, but in my experience, most of it did come from CaptainSwan shippers. So I’m sensitive about attacks on the actor now because of that since I do think he’s a fine actor, even if he does seem to be typecast as criminal types, and I think it’s wrong that just because someone has a problem with the character for whatever reason they have to resort to that level.

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I just saw those on Tumblr! It’s funny how he looks during his off time, at times, and how he looks on screen because he’s still cute and sexy especially when he’s smiling, but sometimes he’s like “I don’t give a damn what I look like right now just as long as I’m comfortable.” Like the pictures he posted on his Twitter from when he went on a road trip over Christmas, and his hair was all crazy and he probably was wearing the same clothes for awhile, but I just love how he comes across as genuine and self confident enough to do that. Because I know there’s other Hollywood actors that tried to pull off that kind of look at various times, and most of them came across as being disingenuous to me because it’s like “I don’t want to give off the impression that I care about how hot I am, but it took me 8 hours to look like I didn’t care about not caring.”

Of course, if I was his mom or a significant other, I might be like “you’re going out like that?!? Why can’t you put on a nice suit, shave, and run a comb through your hair. You’re such a handsome guy, why do you have to hide it.” Although I think he’d be fun just to hang out because of his sense of humor and devil may care attitude. 😆

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@TheGoldenKey wrote:

Back when we thought he was the wolf, before Red Handed aired, I called him the WhaleWolf. Saw his twitter tonight and seems to be the name he likes most out of all the ships. I’m flattered. 🙂 PS mind you, when I was calling him that back then, I never intended it to be a ship between him and red. Funny how things turn out sometimes.

Yes, I wouldn’t have shipped it last season even if David Anders always made me laugh even when he’s being a pervert, but I can see it now after they’ve talked to each other as equals.

Plus, other than Archie, who I’ve seen as asexual for some reason, there really hasn’t been anyone on the show to ship Red with that is on a similar level that she is in terms of screen time, seems like they’ll be on the show long term like she probably will be, and that doesn’t already have a true love other than Dr. Whale right now.

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@NONNIE wrote:

I think Regina is smart enough to play it down with her mom. Find out what she is after before trys to battle her. On other forums they think that Regina is manipulating Cora by falling in with her plans. .

I’ve read that, but I’m not so sure. She is pretty vulnerable right now, and she would do anything to get Henry back in her life. I knew the minute that Emma and Snow came back, and Rumple so easily played on her fears about Henry and being excluded from his life now that Emma was back that she was going to relapse.

Again, just because she relapses, if she does actually relapse, doesn’t mean that she won’t be redeemed, because I actually think that she has a better chance if she relapses and realizes that she shouldn’t try to redeem herself just because she’ll think she’ll win back Henry. She needs to hit rock bottom and realize that she needs to do it because it’s the right thing to do in life.

If you do not like the guest / bit players like the father, the brother… BLAME THE WRITERS…. they frequently write the ancillary characters as flat and uninteresting, barely giving them anything worth while to do or say…. they did that with GASTON, Daniel and several of the Princes and others. They also tend to kill them off quickly. I think they do this to use the actors and actresses as props to the main cast members. If the ancillary players are flat it makes the regular actors who we care about that much better and even if they are not.

Sometimes the writing can be uneven, but since other guest stars don’t seem as terrible as those two did, I don’t think it’s just the uneven writing because actors have risen above it.

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@dena81 wrote:

@MellieMD wrote:

I think Hook’s true love was Milha… Seeing as he’s dedicated 200+ years to avenging her death.

Agreed…if he just turns around and finds a new one, that kinda ruins the purpose of most of the stories and his whole revenge deal….don’t think it’s gonna happen.

Yes, I think that’s part of the reason he seems to be written so inconsistently to me. I mean he works as a brooding pirate out for revenge on Rumple because his main purpose on the show has been to avenge Milah’s death, but he doesn’t work so much for me as a Jack Sparrow character who tries to charm all the ladies but gets shut down all the time.

So I believe the former when he is in that mode, but then when they try to write him in his other mode, doesn’t fit with Milah being the love of his life. I do believe that she is though because otherwise he wouldn’t have spent so long trying to avenge her, and his sole reason for being on the show since they’ve made him so one dimensional. At least with Rumple who has been on a quest to find his son since the start of the show and with Regina who had a similar arc most of last season in trying to get revenge on Snow, they weren’t written so one dimensionally, imo.

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@Gigi wrote:

Whaa, I think this episode was pretty good, full of tension and true to the characters and stuffs. Why did you guys hate it so much?

Yes, while not my favorite episode of the season, I don’t think it was that bad.

Likes:
-It moved on along pretty briskly.

-Great use of the Storybrooke cast. I feel that just about everyone got a fair amount of time.

-Potential new ship in Frankenwolf. It’s definitely ironic because this time last season, Dr. Whale was such a horn dog for Ruby, but this episode showed that maybe if would have been himself, they might have actually ended up together.

-Rumple was very menacing and very on the edge this episode, as he should be, and Robert Carlyle played it perfectly. Yes, it’s out of character for Rumple to shout out threats to kids, but think of the state of mind that he was in to get to that point and it makes sense.

-Regina falling for Cora’s words. I knew Regina’s redemption was too good to be true. It doesn’t mean she can’t redeem herself later on, but I think this just showed that she needed to do it for her own sake rather than just trying to get Henry back. If she only wants to get better because of Henry and not because she realizes it’s the right thing to do, she’ll likely relapse again like she did in this episode. The same applies to Rumple. If he only does the right thing because he feels he has to, to keep Belle in his life, he’s likely going to fail.

-Cora continues to be an awesome villain.

-Greg Mendell. I still don’t think he’s a normal outsider even if his phone points to that. I love that we got two mysteries for the price of one so to speak because not only is Mendell’s identity still unknown, but there’s also the mysterious “her”. It could be an acronym. It could be Dorothy, Alice, Tinkerbell, etc. The possibilities are almost endless.

-Globe thingy. One step closer to (crossing my fingers) everyone finding out that Neal is Baelfire.

Dislikes:

-The flashbacks were somewhat dull. I feel bad for David Anders because he got saddled with the guy who played his father and the guy who played his brother. The latter was somewhat okay when he was wanting to die, but overall I thought both of them were pretty bad especially compared to Anders.

-Ruby and Dr. Whale talking about how the Curse was sort of a blessing in disguise. I can see how it can be looked at that way in some instances, but I just don’t want them to get too carried away with further whitewashing of Regina’s misdeeds.

-Emma’s “power”. I’m not convinced as some fans are that she actually thought that Greg Mendell was lying, so this might annoy me later on.

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That’s too funny about what his name means! I just love the aliases that they choose.

@TheGoldenKey wrote:

I like Phee’s first thoughts on this. Not sure if it was here or the other thread but it was about Greg Mendell being Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde.

Gypsy brought up the fact that 2KFL is a mathematical equation. As well, the very first printing of the book, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, by Robert Louis Stevenson, was exactly 138 pages long. Greg Mendell is after all the father of genetics. It would be a fun way to introduce that character. I’ll bet he and Victor would make great drinking buddies.

Correction: I like AntBee’s first thoughts on this. 🙂

Thanks. 😀

Maybe he won’t be either Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde of the Wizard of Oz, but alias plus casting call description has me thinking he’ll be the former for now. I’m not really sure how he got to Storybrooke, but if he and Dr. Whale are from the same world, maybe he found out about Dr. Whale meeting up with Rumple and Jefferson, and wanted to learn more about their magical world and thought he was going there but ended up here instead.

Of course, I am pretty sure that they’ll introduce Oz at some point, so Ethan Embry’s character could be how they do it.

That was the first thing that came to my mind too. I love the theories about that on here. My brain just got stuck on the fact that he bred peas, so I’m having weird but funny thoughts about The Princess and the Pea as a tale of genetic engineering gone wrong. Thank goodness there are no connections between that tale and the real world, because that is the worst fairytale princess ever.

lol, I forgot all about that story when I was trying to think of how Gregor Mendel was a hint. I agree though it’s not one a very good fairy tale and can’t imagine them actually using the whole tale. Maybe they could have someone have trouble sleeping and someone else make a joke about them being the Princess, but I hope that’s as far as they go with that story.

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@Naomi wrote:

Did anyone see Naelfire/Michael’s last tweet? He explains the photo;

One must defend ones self from #CaptainSwan shippers RT @MartelLaurence: #OUAT Michael gets sword tips fr OUAT security pic.twitter.com/Ddv9ICGh

Oh no.

But LOL

OMG!!! He is so hilarious. I don’t know how people can’t like him just a little bit because of his sense of humor and how nice he is to fans on Twitter.

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I forgot to say that I love the theories about why Neal has the cutlass. I can't wait to see those scenes. It's going to be so exciting! 😆

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