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@EvilQueen wrote:
As for the sneak peek – I am surprised that they letting out such a substantial peace of information! It makes the viewers think that there might be a twist – but in all the honesty, from Emma's face, I don't think there is any. She would easily be able to recognise a sleeping curse now and that wasn't it. So if there is any more Archie coming up, they need to really give us a good reason for that – for all we know it cannot be him acting in FTL flashbacks because he was a cricket there, not a human. If this was another sleeping curse (which I honestly don't think it is), that would just become a bit boring and repetitive. And there is still a motif WHY would someone do it. If Archie is coming back, then this must be magic – which leaves us with Regina, Gold, BLUE, Cora and perhaps Hook. BUT, there could be another explanation – I mean, crickets DO hibernate so perhaps this is winter time in Storybrooke???
Yes, I know I keep reading that they'd never reveal who really died in the sneak peek, but they gave away who Dr. Whale was, and I remember before the Sheriff who must not be named was killed off, TV Guide had spilled it over the summer so that it wasn't a big surprise that it was him.
I've also read that he must be under a sleeping curse or something like that, but I agree though that I can't see them using that again so soon. Plus, if he is under some type of curse, it would seem like it's going to be impossible to have him wake up because he doesn't have a true love that the audience is aware of. I think it would also make Emma look dumb if he's just been knocked unconscious, but she thinks he's dead. Although with this show, they could do that since they're not afraid of the Charmings looking dumb at times.
Also if it were possible to impersonate a Archie as a corpse or use someone that's already dead and make that person look like Archie, I guess that's another way they could get around it by having someone set up Regina that way but have Archie still be alive, but I'm not sure that's possible or if they'd even go there.
[adrotate group="5"]@toomanyships wrote:
Sneak Peak #3:
http://tvline.com/2013/01/03/once-upon-a-time-season-2-spoilers-video-death/
Confirmation that the beloved character that “dies” is Archie. I say “dies” in quotation marks because the actor's listed in future episodes, so either he's not really dead, he gets brought back from the dead, or we see him in flashbacks.
I wasn't going to watch the sneak peeks but as soon as I read that this sneak peak revealed who dies, I had to watch.
It really looks like he's dead. I know there were rumors about him being turned into a fish, which could have worked if he had been abducted, but it looked like he was dead like how everyone thought Abigail had been murdered when she was really just kidnapped. In this case, I'm not sure how they can get around him not being really dead at least going by the spoilers that a beloved fairy tale character dies, and everyone suspects Regina. Not that they can't or won't get around it, but it seems like it might be difficult to do that given this scene. However, we are suppose to see more of him in Storybrooke, I thought, so I guess there has to be some kind of loophole.
Yes, I do wonder how much Cora and Hook will work together because at first I could see them just doing their own thing because Cora wants to target Regina and maybe Rumple after that depending on how successful or not Hook might be, but Hook wants to target Rumple right away. However, somewhere near the end of the season, I think they’ll team up again to go against the good guys.
As for Belle, I think she’s safe because she’s a Disney princess, and I don’t think they’d allow the show to kill off any of the Princesses, but it could be catalyst for pushing Rumple towards the good side forever or even bad side forever if Belle was killed by Hook. It’s probably enough though that Bae won’t want anything to do with his father for everything that he did after he became the Dark One specifically because of the Curse and because Rumple ripped out Milah’s heart. I do think she’s in a lot of danger though especially with Gold and Emma leaving town since those two are powerful enough to stop Cora and Hook whereas Regina is definitely not powerful enough right now to stop her mother and Hook.
@myril wrote:
Makes some sense to me. Looking at the casting call it just cries for more than a simple someone from our world.
Thanks. That means a lot coming from you. 😀
Hee, I might have been incredibly wrong about my “impostor theory” feelings, but I can’t help but wonder if Emma using the dream catcher in the promo for “The Cricket Game” is somehow not only connected to Nealfire but to “Barrett”.
I just read a theory today that I don’t agree with 100% like how Cora being the cause of Neal’s nightmares or why he’s having nightmares, http://sobeyondrepair.tumblr.com/post/39507298528/okay-see-this-a-emmas-doing-mojo-b-emmas, but I do wonder if whatever was in August’s box was something that Nealfire may have saw in his nightmares which caused him to go along with August’s plan so easily. I mean I know if he’s Baelfire and his memory is intact, which it seems like will be if it’s his dad he’s running away from in the some of the spoiler photos of “Manhattan”, then he has a plethora of reasons to have nightmares. However, there could be other factors at work too like “Barrett” because I do believe that he and Neal have some kind of connection and that Neal may have sent “Barrett” to Storybrooke for him.
I don’t know if “Barrett” is someone that’s been planning things behind the scenes like getting Henry to Storybrooke or telling August how to fool Rumple, but if it’s not the Blue Fairy, then it seems like it’s most likely Barrett out of all the regular/recurring characters that are on the show now or will be in the near future. (The little girl/30 year old that is a seer possibly have enough knowledge about the future to try to get everyone in his or her proper place, but since her character wasn’t described as being a possible recurring character, I ruled her out.)
Of course, I can’t really connect “Barrett” to the dream world then except maybe he’s worried about Rumple destroying one world and bringing everyone to this world. Maybe he thought that everyone would go back when the Curse was broken, so he could avoid interfering beyond just getting the Savior there when it was time. However, she didn’t completely break the Curse like he thought she would, and now he has to handle things by actually going to Storybrooke.
By the way, the name mentioned in the casting call might be not the name they will use for the character, but it reminded me of Syd Barrett, one of the founding members of Pink Floyd, who wrote such nice songs as ‘The Gnome’ and ‘The Scarecrow’. Both songs are on the debut album of the band, ‘The Piper at the Gates of Dawn’, which includs also the song ‘Matilda Mother’, a song about a kid listening to the mother telling fairy tales. And on the US release you can find the song ‘See Emily play’. Not that this means anything.
Guess the ideas of some people here start to have some affect on my imagination 😉 😆
lol, I know what you mean. I’ll take it as a OUaT podcast forum shout out though if Barrett’s name turns out to be Syd, Floyd, Roger, or something along those lines.
@Elle wrote:
Thanks for posting the bit of the interview!! 🙂
I heard about there being more Rumbelle–it will be good to see more of them together. I just hope it won’t be the same drama of Rumpelstiltskin lying or hiding something from her like he had before.
Yes, I know it’s too soon for them to get their happily ever after right now, but I don’t want them to keep breaking up over the same things (no matter how true to life that is for some people) because it would be too much like what happened to David and Mary Margaret last year where they kept breaking up because David was “married” to Kathryn.
I hadn’t about the people in charge of the promos not watching the show–but I’d think that the network would tell them what to show. But then again, they have all spoiled a lot on the show. 🙄 I like how Jennifer really talked about Emma and points out her main concern–Henry’s health and happiness.
You would think so, but I don’t think they really care that much otherwise I don’t think they would have spoiled who Dr. Whale was or spoil that Emma kisses Henry to save his life last year. Maybe they figure that it’s only the hardcore fans that record the promos and watch them over and over again, and the regular fans that just watch the show but don’t go on the Internet or anything like that just see a commercial for the show and it reminds them to watch the new episode.
Also, here’s another quote from here, http://www.ksitetv.com/once-upon-a-time/once-upon-a-time-bosses-tease-character-relationships-as-the-show-returns-this-sunday/18504 about Emma’s love life this season.
“The love of Emma’s life last year was Henry, and this year, we actually met the one person she’s fallen in love with. So, Hook is obviously eye candy. I don’t know if she would stare at him and think he would be a good father to Henry, but he might be fun in Vegas. What’s interesting about Emma is that now that she’s found her family, now that the shock of ‘they’re the same age as me’ has worn off, they’re starting to become a family, and she’s starting to settle down, and a lot of the anger and the walls that she’s put up throughout her life are going to maybe be able to broken, but not as quickly as you’d like. There’s still healing to do, but I think that includes her heart, so it’s a matter of who wins it,” he continues. And on the subject of Emma’s past loves, might we see Henry meeting his father this year? “I would be really disappointed if we went through the season and we didn’t show that. That would suck,” Kitsis says.
@Elle wrote:
The Belle and Rumpelstiltskin moments looked really romantic, and it was heartbreaking to see Belle screaming at Regina how she would never give up.
I like a bit of a recap with all the other characters, but it would have been nice to see more new scenes with them, too. But I guess if they showed anymore, the might as well just show the episode early, given all the clips and trailers they released and all.
Yes, it was nice seeing them. K&H did say recently that the second half of the season would feature a lot more of Rumbelle, so that might be why there’s so much new footage of them while there’s not much new footage of the other characters.
I don’t mind Captain Hook being in the video, but I don’t really get him being with Emma. Nothing has been confirmed to happen between the two of them. In fact, him and Emma will be separated for a while, since Emma is going to complete the favor she owes Rumpelstiltskin.
Yes, it makes sense that he’s in there because he’ll be a regular soon and that he’s a popular new character. As for him being with Emma in the clip, it doesn’t bother me because I don’t think the promo people actually watch the show at all. Like off the top of my head, they made a big deal about Hook being a worse villain than Rumpelstiltskin, and we know that’s not even close to being true even if Rumpel redeems himself by the end of the series. They also gave away who Dr. Whale was which killed the ending of The Doctor. I know there’s a bunch of other things that they’ve done that didn’t make any sense too. I just ignored that part and focused in on the clips with her and her family.
Here’s a recent Jennifer Morrison quote about Cora and Hook coming to Storybrooke, and it’s all about protecting Henry from them.
“No one’s going to be happy” about the arrival of the pirate brig’s passengers, says Jennifer Morrison. “It’s too much of a threat to everything that we care about.” Speaking in character, she adds, “I don’t really know that much about all these people from this other land, but I do know that those two are dangerous, so I’m certainly not going to want them anywhere near my kid.”
@PriceofMagic wrote:
I ended up voting for all the choices.
Yes, I voted for all the choices too. I’m sure we’ll eventually see all these characters pop up again someday. It just may not be for that long depending on how long they can get the actor.
August – He still needs to reunite with Geppetto, and tell Emma about his part in convincing Neal to leave her, and of course tell both of them about the money he stole. Of course, if Eion Bailey’s new show is a hit on TNT, he may not be able to be back that often if at all, but I think they’ll try to give as much closure to his storylines before that.
Sydney – If Revolution gets cancelled, I suspect we’ll see him again. Or if he gets a break from that show, and it’s able to fit in with OUaT’s schedule, I could see a “where is he and what is he doing” moment.
Hansel and Gretel – Like PriceofMagic, I could see them bringing back Gretel as someone that Henry might go out on a first date with or date depending on how long the series runs because he would follow in his grandfather’s and father’s footsteps of falling for a girl, who was stealing when he first met her.
Or they could just come back and be a reminder to Henry and Regina that although Henry might be able to accept and forgive her if she truly does follow the path of good from now on, other people probably won’t ever be that forgiving because she didn’t care if Hansel and Gretel died, and then when they succeeded, she separated them from their dad, perhaps forever if hadn’t been for the Curse and then Emma breaking it, because they would rather be with him than live with her. If Henry and Gretel were older, I think it would be interesting to have them explore something like that assuming that Regina’s attempted redemption doesn’t fail in the near future.
Cinderella – We still never saw what happened to Prince Thomas, so maybe they’ll eventually give closure to that storyline. If nothing else, we’ll probably see Jessy Schram pop up in like she did in her last appearance just to show Ella is still around, and they haven’t forgotten that she exists.
Lancelot – Yes, I don’t trust Cora either. I think she’s like Regina in that if her lips are moving, she’s probably lying. (Off topic, I still laugh every time there’s discussion in fandom about whether or not Regina was lying about something, and then it always turned out so far that she was.)
Aurora and Mulan – I sort of agree with PriceofMagic. I don’t hate them, but it wouldn’t bother me at all if we don’t see them very much past season 2. They can be like Ella and pop up every now and then, but I was very disappointed in how much screentime that they took from the main characters, and then once they started to become interesting, they come up with a lame way to keep them from going to Storybrooke with Emma and Snow. I’m sure we’ll see them again and have closure to their storyline with Prince Phillip’s soul, but I didn’t like how they built these two characters up for half of the season only to have their storyline fizzle out because the writers never really seemed to figure out how to balance doing episodes with present day Storybrooke and present day Fairy Tale Land.
Other – I agree about King George. I would also add in Neal, Graham, Jefferson, Paige, Maurice, Smee, and basically almost any character that we’ve seen that didn’t feel like a one and done type of character. Like I think of Milah, Anita, Quinn, Stealthy as one and done type of characters that probably won’t be seen again even in flashbacks, they’re just characters that are there to exist in one episode and never be seen again although they may be referenced in other episodes. Or characters that are very minor, but suddenly get a burst of screentime like Billy/Gus-Gus probably won’t pop up again either because they get their big moment as a recurring character, and then they’re never seen again.
@Josephine wrote:
The hospital gown scene is on the Rumbelle tag if you keep looking. It looks fake to me, but the poster is adamant that it is real. Gold is sitting by her bedside drinking out of the chipped cup and not really looking worried. It’s really pixellated and I don’t think it’s real, but who knows. Supposedly, someone thought they saw Emilie in a hospital gown a few weeks ago and a few other reports had surfaced from set about her wearing a gown.
Oh, I saw the pixelated picture going around Tumblr and thought it was suppose to be in the promo. I wasn’t sure where someone found it at then, but all of my Rumbelle followers were going crazy about it.
They were speculating that she could be pregnant or that she could have had some kind of mental breakdown since if it was some kind of injury Rumple would just heal her. I guess it’s possible that the latter happens because I don’t see them doing a Rumbelle baby this early if ever unless it’s in a flash forward or epilogue. Of course, I don’t see him leaving Storybrooke that soon even with Belle telling him to go if she has some kind of breakdown, but I guess he could.
The thing I can’t reconcile is why Gold would bring CHIP to the hospital bed where Belle is and drinking from it in front of her…weirdness.
Yes, I guess he was trying to cheer her up, but Gold seems so different from when he’s Rumple that he’s just not the type to play around like that while Rumple would.
@Kranen wrote:
Promo in HD. Looks like my 15 minutes of fame is over. *(please avoid obscenities)*.
Aw, I’m sure that you’re only at 14 minutes. 😀
I see everyone on Tumblr is talking about Belle in a hospital gown, but I must have missed it because I didn’t notice anything like that.
Kranen didn’t post this here, but I saw that he/she did at IMDb. I hope they don’t mind me posting the link here to the new promo, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dI0tUnutVI.
It confirms what we already knew about Rumple being able to leave Storybrooke, but it’s awesome to have a Rumple-centric promo.
