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I don’t really know where to put this, but I thought this was so neat. I doubt they knew that Jared Gilmore looked like almost exactly really young Robert Carlyle when they picked him, but it’s a pretty cool coincidence.

Also this was a .gif that Lil’Red made showing how similar MRJ’s and Robert Carlyle’s smiles are.

(I just really wanted to post MRJ’s smile. :D)

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@Phee wrote:

Well that kills both the theories that Ethan Embry would play Victor’s brother and that Gerhardt would be a young Maurice. 😆

lol, although the only one I’m disappointed that didn’t come true was that Ethan Embry won’t be Victor’s brother. He looks just like him.

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@Gypsy wrote:

Lol, Naomi- your post cracked me up 🙂

Haha. I admit the stalking might be getting out of hand. But I really need closure. 😆

Personally, I can’t decide whether I’m more of a SwanFire shipper or a SwanThief shipper.

I mean, if Neal turns out to be someone else, I wonder how many people would still ship Emma with Bae? EmmaxBaelfire has been a wildly popular idea since, well, The Return.

But NealxEmma is so awesome. Hopefully Neal is Bae and I won’t have to decide. 😉 Waiting with bated breath for every new male cast member they announce…which, apart from a few exceptions, have all been scruffy, 20/30-year old, brown-haired men. They must be doing it on purpose…

I would still ship SwanThief if Neal didn’t turn out to be Bae, but I don’t think we’ll have to worry about that. 😉

Jane Espenson recently tweeted this to a fan from Fan Forums, which definitely seems to be a confirmation, imo, about Neal being Baelfire.

Jane’s response @EvilDearie12 I don’t think she will be gut-shot by him having a son. Other revelations, however, will floor her!

I was ecstatic for about a nanosecond until I read this second answer from Espenson.

Jane’s response: @EvilDearie12 Are you so sure he’s coming to SB?

Don’t do this to me Jane! You already ripped my heart out with “Tallahassee”. I don’t know if she’s messing around or she’s hinting at something else happening. Obviously, Neal and Emma must run across each other again this season based on quotes from K&H after “Tallahassee”, so I would think Neal would go to Storybrooke this season.

The only two explanations that I can think of is that Emma goes to find Bae only to discover that he’s Neal, and he stays separated from the rest of the cast until season 3. It’s possible, but I don’t think that would give MRJ a whole lot to do. His tweets indicate we’ll see a lot more of him; although sadly I guess it is possible he’s not referring to this season of seeing a lot more of him. It still seems weird though to keep him isolated like that from most of the other cast this season.

The other explanation is that he goes to FTL somehow. It doesn’t really make sense except Adam Horowitz confirmed that other characters will cross into Fairy Tale Land. http://www.tvguide.com/News/Once-Upon-Time-Spoilers-Horowitz-Kitsis-1054834.aspx Although it could be next season or beyond whenever that happens, but that’s the only “evidence” that I have that could point towards Bae/Neal not going to Storybrooke.

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@Phee wrote:

Why did the dream not look scary at all but instead brought to my mind the infectious 70s hit “Disco Inferno”?

Well now every time I see a scene in that red room I’m gonna be singing, “Buuuurrrrnnnn, baby buuuurrrrrnnnn,” in my head. Thank you very much. 😛

LOL! Sorry, but the floor was all weird. I know people last week were talking about how they ripped off the idea of a red room from Twin Peaks, and I actually wouldn’t have minded if they had gone more in that direction because that room was weird and freaky while I didn’t really find the fire room all that scary in Once because of the flooring. They really could have left that out of there.

I’m just being silly though with these questions because it was just an okay episode for me, but at least it won’t be so hard to pick a least favorite episode of the season now. Although good question about whether or not Ruby knows enough in her wolf form not to go past the city limits, and if she does get close to the city limits, what are the people guarding the border going to think/do?

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@obisgirl wrote:

so Ruby’s enjoying the last hours of the fall moon ends, running around in the woods? without her red cloak? and Charming isn’t concerned about this? He just prevented the town from killing her and Ruby’s free to run around in the woods? I mean, we saw that she can still change to the wolf in Storybrooke and without the cloak, she’s running around as the wolf having the time of her life? I get that she can control it but there’s something amiss here.

Emma would probably be like “WTH?”

I feel like a lesson was not learned here.

LOL! It reminds me of the Angel episode, “The Ring” where Angel and company release a bunch of demons who have been kept prisoner into the world, and then they’re like “mmm, maybe that’s not such a good idea after all” except OUaT didn’t play it for laughs in this episode.

I agree though that there were several head scratching moments. Like why did Charming let Regina into his house to watch Henry when surely Archie or someone could have been available? Why didn’t Charming try harder to get the hat from the fire? Wasn’t the hat already supposed to be incapable of working per Jefferson’s words earlier in the season? Why did Charming so coolly open King George’s car trunk, but then smashed the window of King George’s car to get into it? Why was King George so dumb to leave evidence like that in his car? Why did the dream not look scary at all but instead brought to my mind the infectious 70s hit “Disco Inferno”?

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@AntBee wrote:

Sorry I meant to reply earlier. Jane Espenson tweeted that Maurice got his land and title through fighting under someone of power. I can’t find the tweet now though unfortunately.

Thanks for the tip, AntBee. Just had a google and tracked down her tweet…
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@JaneEspenson
@emiliehballo Maurice was a knight who was granted control over a region of land including a village. Minor royalty at best.

Knight, soldier, same thing.

No, thank you. I’m glad that you found it. I just thought it was just a throwaway thing that Jane Espenson tweeted to a fan, but it looks like it could have more importance now.

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Also, I think Gerhardt might just possibly be a “fake name” as a place-holder, the way that Anastasia and Magnolia were pseudonyms for Aurora and Mulan, respectively.

That’s why I’m thinking he could be a young Maurice, because they wouldn’t release his actual name if they were casting a young Maurice, because it’d give away instantly what the ep is gonna be about.

Yes, I think it could go either way in that it could be a total new character they’re trying to hide, or it could be someone that’s already on the show that they’re trying to do a younger version of similar in my belief like how the casting call for Jack was for Neal’s character, who is really an older Baelfire. (Or they could just have Gerhardt just be Gerhardt I suppose like Quinn and Anita were just Quinn and Anita, but I would hope not because I was really disappointed that they just killed them off after we had all these theories about them being Merlin and Morgana.) Right now I think that they’ll go with Gerhardt being a younger Maurice because Maurice would fit the clues given, and it seems about the right time for the Belle-centric episode to happen. Not too early because the other regulars need to get their episodes first and she’s still trying to find a place in Storybrooke, but not too late in the season because I think that will be saved for the other regulars plus Bae.
More importantly, I think because Rumple is going to be featured heavily in it, but it’s not his episode, that Belle or Bae makes the most sense as to who it’s centered around. It’s too early though, imo, for it to be Bae’s episode.

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I love that .gif set Naomi! I can’t wait to see MRJ back on OUaT.

This literally made my morning! (Of course, he and I have a different definition of soonish though because to me that means next episode and not next year, but I’ll take it.)

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@LisaFromOH wrote:

What a cool theory! I’ve never heard of that program before. Thanks for the post. 🙂

There was that Will Ferrell movie that came out loosely based on the show a few years ago, but I think it turned out to be a flop probably because most people weren’t familiar with the original material or if they were familiar they didn’t want it to be adapted the way it was. (I think that Danny McBride and MRJ should play brothers though in some kind of Judd Apatow/David Gordon Green/Adam McKay type of movie. I think MRJ would fit right in with those guys.)

Neal Cassidy’s apartment had quite a collection of radio microphones and I’m also remembering the comment that Rumple made to Charming when he gave him the potion to put on Jackson’s hat…the potion that helps you find things that are lost.

If the map is a nod to the original Land of the Lost it certainly would apply to Emma…she was “lost” in our world…away from her own world and it would also apply to Baelfire, who was “lost” to another world. So….one more thing that points to Neal Cassidy being Baelfire. If it is Baelfire and Emma then we have two lost children who are looking to the Red Lantern map to find a new home…they may not find what they have lost but they have found each other and they will create a new life…that is until August stuck his big, long, lying (mostly lying) nose into things. (So does this mean that at some point that Will, Holly, and Chaka are going to wander into Storybrook? )

I love all the research that you do fairy dust. I’m sure that K&H are fans of the original Land of the Lost.

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@TheTrickster wrote:

I’m curious… do they say that Belle’s father was in the military? We see him discussing estrategies, but he was a king, ruling the army movements during a war comes with the job. Apart from that I wouldn’t expect, from what it’s shown, that he were more engaged in that… did I miss something? -it can be 😳 –

Sorry I meant to reply earlier. Jane Espenson tweeted that Maurice got his land and title through fighting under someone of power. I can’t find the tweet now though unfortunately.

So I thought that military man father + Rumple being a driving character + K&H saying that there would be Belle centric episode this season might equal this being her episode.

It makes sense, to me at least, that her episode would be gotten out of the way sooner than later because I think the last third of the season will be devoted to the fight between Cora/Hook/possibly King George and the good guys/Rumple/Regina, and we’ll finally find get the Bae-centric episode in there somewhere.

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@TheGoldenKey wrote:

Agreed Slurpeez. We’ve seen this heartfelt side of Gold a few times before. In Desperate Souls, Mr. Gold tried to give Emma Graham’s things. She said no to them. Then the conversation went like this:

Mr. Gold: Well, look. Your boy might like these, don’t you think? You could play together.

(He holds up a pair of walkie talkies.)

Emma: I don’t-

Mr. Gold: No, please. They… They grow up so fast.

Emma: Thanks.

Mr. Gold: You enjoy these with your boy. Your time together is precious, you know? That’s the thing about children – before you know it, you lose them.

Same as last night. There was a genuine fondness & tenderness there. You could hear it in his voice and see it in his facial expressions, especially the eyes. I’d love to see more Henry & Mr. Gold moments. That scene was certainly the highlight of the episode for me.

Yes, I agree with both of you about why they’re showing Gold to be so nice to Henry because Henry reminds Gold of Bae because Henry is Bae’s son and Gold’s grandson.

Also agree that short scene was the highlight of “Child of the Moon” for me, especially since it made me realize how much I’ve really missed Robert Carlyle the past few episodes. I wonder if Emma and Snow return, they’ll continue trying to do more than two storylines at once or not because while I think there’s certainly been a lot more action at this point this season than last season, after this episode, I’m beginning to feel like one those fans that’s starting to hate that my favorites aren’t on that much like last season and that all these new characters keep coming in and stealing precious time from them. I even missed Regina a little, and didn’t like how she was sort of awkwardly inserted into this episode. I get that they’re all trying to get along for Henry’s sake, but just to leave her alone with Henry at the Charming’s residence is just not something that I think Charming would actually do at this point since it’s been only been about a week since she’s turned over a new leaf instead it felt like what it was, which is the writers needed some fast way to insert Regina and Rumple into the episode.

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