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@MellieMD wrote:

Oh my god. Fairytale rappers.

I can’t unsee/unthink this.

OMG! I just saw this on Tumblr!

Now this is a story all about how my life got flipped, turned up-side-down,
And I like to take a minute, just sit right there, I’ll tell you how we became Rumple and the Mad Hatter.
In the Enchanted Forest born and raised
In my portal is where I spent most of my days
Cursin’ & Killing and being all malice
Stealing some babies outside of the palace
When this sweet little girl who was kind of a mess
Needed some help to stop being depressed
so I hired this Doctor to bring back the dead
But it was really all a scheme to get her to see red

Now instead of a sitcom where Rumple and Jefferson are rappers, I want where Rumple and Jefferson go out to Beverly Hills to live with Bae and his family, so that his dad will stay out of trouble. The only problem is Bae hates Jefferson especially when Jefferson hits on Bae’s oldest daughter, so he always throws him out. Also Dr. Whale can fill the Carlton role because I would love to see him do the Carlton dance.

Very special episode idea: We find out that a fairy tale character played by Ben Vereen is Rumple’s father.

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@Lil’Red wrote:

Yeah, kind of shocked he didn’t try to use sex appeal or flattery on the princesses last night -especially Aurora who seemed like the easiest target. Really the only indication that he was/is a lady’s man would be him boasting that ‘he’s slept with many a man’s wife’ – And I’m willing to bet that’s just him talking and trying to seem manly in front of his crew (and intimidate Rumple further). Maybe Milha was the rare case – she did claim to fall in love with his stories in one night. Maybe Hook is really just a great story-teller: ALL talk…at least about his sexual life. 😀

That could be true about him being all talk, but it’s sort of disappointing because Rumple, Regina, and dare I say even Cora in her brief scene with Hook, don’t seem so asexual. I mean he’s not totally that way, but definitely expected him to use his charisma and charm more, but not seeing it yet. I know it’s only been two episodes and I do like the actor so far just not as Hook. If he were just Killian Jones, I wouldn’t have a problem, but as Hook, there’s something lacking right now.

I actually would have been okay with Emma/Hook, at least as flirtatious thing, had they shown any spark last night, but since they didn’t, imo, I’m not really a fan of them trying to force anything. Yes, I know that she didn’t trust him, and he was trying to lie to her, but even then the love/hate type of relationship is always suppose to have passion from both sides from the start, and they had none. I mean I don’t ever see SwanQueen happening and certainly would never ship it, but I can’t deny that right away that the actors had a spark in their scenes, that I just didn’t see at all between Emma and Hook.

I also totally agree though that if he knew he wasn’t going to be able to use his charms on Emma, Snow, and Mulan, I really thought he was going to try to do so to Aurora since she actually believed him. Maybe if they would have gave that part of the show more time last night they would have, but I can’t believe they didn’t have him trying to seduce/charm her into letting him go or doing something that the other three wouldn’t have fallen for.

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@Midnight Dreary wrote:

Cool theory. Jefferson and Rumpel did seem pretty close, almost friendly with each other. It was actually pretty funny. 😆 I can’t wait to see how they met.

Yes, I really like that theory because it explains why Rumple keeps trying to make deals involving all these babies.

I also loved their broship. Even today, I’m cracking up at my dashboard of the pictures of the two of them that look like they’re fairy tale rappers. Now along with my dream spin-off of Rumple and Belle leaving town trying to find Bae and fixing troubles wherever they go, I want a spin-off where Rumple and Jefferson get transported to some famous rapper’s house, and he decides to make them his new proteges.

Interesting theory. I was also surprised by the relationship between Rumpel and Jefferson. I never would have guessed that Jefferson met Rumpel before Regina did.

Yes, I never would have guessed that Jefferson met Regina through Rumple. I just figured they happened to be childhood friends or something.

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@Phee wrote:

Hated it the first time I saw it suggested, but then decided they could do some interesting stuff with it, so now am thinking it’s a definite possibility.

Yes, I really wanted the Charmings to be reunited, but the more I thought about it, it just seemed too early to do so in episode 10. I think it might leave too much time for them to prepare for the incoming villains. Plus, there’s all the other spoilers that are suppose to happen between now and episode 10 that they’re going to have to be really crammed full of stuff. Hopefully after I get the full synopses for episode 8 and 9 which should be coming out fairly soon, I’ll get a better idea if the things in the spoilers are happening in those episodes, or if the impostor theory is true, and the things in the spoilers take place later on this season.

She could potentially take measures to try and suppress that part of herself after whatever happens in ep 7. I’m thinking of something more drastic than just wearing her cape. If magic doesn’t work the same in SB, her cape may not work, if they even have it there. So she may try some other method to rid her of her wolfness.

Didn’t think about her cape or something more drastic then that, but that’s a good call. Her wolf senses probably can’t work without the cape, and until she knows for sure she didn’t kill anyone in Storybrooke which probably won’t happen by episode 10, she’ll definitely be extra cautious.

Yes, Ginny’s stance seems more…proper, I guess is the word. I know it’s just one still picture, so it may not really be proper evidence of how she’s carrying herself in the scene, but that’s all we have to judge right now. It’s also the fact that it’s BOTH of them that seem to resemble their potential alter egos. If just one of them looked slightly different, I’d think nothing of it, but it’s both of them, so I’m suspicious.

Yes, and it wasn’t just in one set of pictures where they looked like they were carrying themselves differently, but in the first set of pictures too.

Agreed, I think that given the timing of the centric eps, and the way they’ll build the tension, the impostor storyline could fit quite nicely as the climax to that. Ep10 will almost definitely be after the mid season break, won’t it? They wouldn’t be able to have the shock reveal in ep10 as a cliffhanger right before the break?

Yes, episode 9 is suppose to be the last episode before the break.

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@Phee wrote:

YES, I just saw your posts about this in the other part of the forum and rushed right over to say HOLY CRAP they could totally be brothers!! Maybe Victor’s brother ended up getting away from their homeland, and Victor won’t have to go find him, coz he’s gonna come to SB instead?

Maybe he’s the one that kills a Storybrooke resident where Ruby gets blamed.

Wow! I never really noticed before, but Ethan Embry and David Anders do look a lot a like.

I also love that idea more than King George doing the killing and trying to set Ruby up. Not that King George wouldn’t do something like that, but the whole King George goes after Charming by saying he’s not fit to be Sheriff just because he wasn’t a Prince seems dumb right now without any context.

I know he’s suppose to be one of the big villains this season, but I think it would be more creative if they don’t make it too obvious right now that King George sets up one of the Charming’s friends like that and have Victor’s brother be behind it. That way the audience will think it’s probably King George who did it or had it set up because they probably won’t even think about Victor’s brother appearing so soon, and then surprise, it was really Frankenstein’s monster that was behind the killing.

Plus, I have this theory that the Bae/Rumple reunion is going to be the very last major one that happens, well this season, so I still need to see Gepetto and August reunite, and maybe now that we know about Victor and his brother that would also count as a major reunion that has to happen before Rumple finally gets his reunion.

I’m going to be so disappointed now if they don’t turn out to be brothers because of the uncanny resemblance.

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@Lil’Red wrote:

I’m a Swanfire fan too – but I’m all for Emma dating around for awhile. But, I think it would be more effective for her growth, if she dated a stable adult male. Apparently very hard to find in Storybrooke and FTL but she needs to try having an adult relationship with someone who’s worked their issues out. Hook still has a lot of issues and (although we haven’t seen evidence yet on the show) has some pretty BIG issues to work through about children – let alone a vendetta to kill rooted in a lost love.

Again even though we haven’t actually seen it on the show, I am working under the assumption that he and Milha were very much in love if not each other’s true loves. The pain hasn’t seem to lessen after centuries for him – not saying he doesn’t have a chance of meeting someone new along the seasons to come but he has a ways to go before fans can start shipping him with anyone with/around children.

Yes, this is why I don’t like the idea of Hook/Emma at all. I don’t mind Emma dating other guys at all before SwanFire actually, well at least as long as they do it right. To me Hook/Emma would be okay as a flirtation on both of their sides, but not an actual relationship until he works out his issues and stops working with Cora, which isn’t going to happen at least not this season.

Of course, even as a flirtation, last night I just didn’t feel anything at all from Hook towards any of the ladies. I don’t know if it’s the writing, but I have to say that I was disappointed that they have this really hot villain who they’ve set up to be a lady killer in his first episode, and then have him have no game at all when he’s around a bunch of pretty princesses that he should be seducing. I mean just that very brief clip of MR-J saying that “all I want is you” towards Emma in the Canadian promo contained more sexual energy than Hook had last night, imo.

I don’t see Swan/Hook because I think Hook truly loved Milha and is driven completely by that love and the revenge he wants to exact. I think if Emma/Hook happened, it would be his way of manipulating her.

Yes, I’m not into Hook/Emma for this reason too because I think he’s just using her at this point, and she’d look incredibly dumb for falling for it.

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I don’t know. Maybe it’s because I already ship SwanFire right now, but I just don’t see it yet.

Hook is very attractive, and I like the actor so far, but I don’t really sense any chemistry yet between him and any ladies. He had okay chemistry with Milah, but I bought it more from her end then from him.

With the four ladies in The Doctor, I didn’t sense any chemistry at all with any of them, even Emma whom he interacted with the most. Maybe it will happen later, but tonight I saw nothing.

With him and Cora, I guess it’s probably not his fault he didn’t seem interested in Cora even though she certainly seemed interested in him, unless they do have them be something more than just partners in crime together. So I guess I’ll reserve judgment until I see them interact more.

Overall, I have to say that I’m sort of disappointed in Captain Hook, at least villain wise. He’s not even as “bad” to me as Jefferson is right now. Sure he let Cora kill all those villagers, but it was off screen. Other than that, I’m finding him boring as a villain or even anti-hero although very hot to look at. I just hope that they make him a little bit more bite.

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@Lil’Red wrote:

One idea that I can get out: how did Emma manage to keep the yellow bug for ten years after stealing it and going to jail? My guess: it was the Mysterious Man’s (Baelfire’s?). We know he has a thing for collecting older items and in the stills for this episode – looks like he’s in the back seat when Emma’s pulled over and then moves to the front. I guess I’m suggesting that Henry’s dad was sleeping in the back seat (probably living in his car) when Emma decides to steal it and that’s how they meet…

When will the sneak peeks be out? The wait is going to be harsh this week! 😥

You always think of the best theories. I was thinking that it was Bae that taught Emma how to steal cars, but I would love it if they had a memorable meeting like that. If they do become endgame eventually, I think it would fit perfectly since Snowing, Rumbelle, Dreamy/Nova all had memorable meetings on the show.

I was thinking about how the car might play into their romance too recently because I think it’s weird that she had it back then and has the same car or same type of car today. If it’s a part of their history together, I think it would be weird that she would have kept it if she’s so bitter towards him that is if she could have even afforded to keep it. If he gave it to her as a gift after she got out of jail, I don’t know why she would have kept it either. Hopefully, our questions will be answered next Sunday.

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@Naomi wrote:

Well, the CTV promos are always really sneaky. My gut feeling is that the “baby bump” shot and the “what I really want is you” shot are not filmed together. I think they’re taken from different parts of the episode.

But you’re right Dorothy: the Canadian promo makes it look like he knew about the baby.

…I wonder if he did? 😯

I’d like this episode now, please. 🙁

Yes, I think Emma was telling the truth, at least I hope she was. I think it’s just misdirection. How hot was Neal in just that little bit though. 😀

Thanks for the promo, slurpeez.

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@Phee wrote:

I just posted this in spoiler tags in a thread on the regular forum, but wanted to mention it here too.

The thread was about Cora’s powers, and whether or not Lancelot is really dead. I wondered if Cora can only shape shift into being someone she’s killed, or someone who’s heart she’s stolen. Then I remembered that Regina was apparently gonna be seeing Daniel’s ghost. Could that somehow be Cora appearing as Daniel in SB?

Edited to add another thought I had just now reading another thread. Maybe those ashes of the wardrobe that Cora collected wouldn’t have enough power to transport her, but would have enough power so she could astral project, in a sense. That could be how she’d appear briefly as Daniel’s ghost in SB, even if she’s not yet in town.

Edited again to add that maybe she doesn’t appear as Daniel’s ghost at all, maybe Regina actually sees Cora? I know that Barbara isn’t in the cast list in the first post of this thread, but perhaps it’s not a complete list yet?

Mmm, Jane Espenson just tweeted to fans that this,

So now I’m wondering what’s going on. I agree though that I think it might have something to do with Cora. Of course, I’m hyped up on the impostor theory becoming true, so I would love if your scenario came true and we find out at the end Daniel’s ghost in Storybrooke was really Cora.

My second guess, even though he’s not listed in the credits either, is that maybe it has something to do with Michael Raymond-James at the end of the episode because next week is the “Tallahassee” episode. Although I don’t know that would make it the best ending ever because I’m expecting a really, super shocker ending even though she just says “best ending ever” because to me that would be one of the best endings ever.

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