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@PriceofMagic wrote:
Like Midnight Dreary said, what parent would willingly let their 14 year old child go off to die? It was already established in the episode that running away was no longer an option and Rumple was running out of time. The night he kills the dark one is the night before Bae’s birthday. In a way Rumple was being brave, rather than being a coward and just letting his son get taken away, Rumple went “as far as it takes” in order to protect Bae.
Yes, I know people thought of Rumple as a coward, and he even labeled himself as one, but I actually think he was pretty brave until he became the Dark One. It took a lot of courage to run away from the war. It also took a lot of courage to carry out his plan to save Bae from having to go to war. Also, if he knows Bae really isn’t his son, but he raised him as such, I think that’s pretty brave of him to do so because he could of took the easy way out.
[adrotate group="5"]Speaking of which, since many are convinced that Rumpelstiltskin’s wife ran off with Captain Hook (not sure about that theory, but I digress) could it also be speculated that Captain Hook is Baelfire’s biological father?
It could certainly be possible. Perhaps Rumple wouldn’t have been so enraged if he hadn’t wondered the same question at one time.
Yeah, I think we’ll see her having an affair (and getting pregnant) with this Beaman character while Rumple is off at war. Then Rumple will come back and she’ll be torn, and will find it hard to stay with him when the whole kingdom is getting down on him for being a deserter. Then not long after Bae is born, she’ll go to join Beaman, and will either run away with him, or she’ll die when his gang of thieves are set upon. Maybe she’ll have babyBae with her at the time, and Rumple will find her dead, still holding him, so he’ll take him for his own, even though he knows he’s not really his.
This sounds like it could definitely happen in the show if Milha turns out to be Bae’s mom. I like how Bae’s situation would sort of mirror Henry’s situation with his moms if this turns out to be true. Although in Bae’s case, his “real” dad would be the Regina while Rumple would be the Emma. If Bae does turn out to be Peter Pan, maybe Hook hates Bae/Peter because he felt that Bae/Peter was the reason Milha ended up dying or some reason like that.
There is also the favor that Emma owes Mr. Gold. She may be forced to do something that could be seen as a betrayal. I don’t think Emma would be forced into something nefarious, but it is a possibility.
Ooh, that would be interesting. I forgot now that magic is back, she’s bound by the deal that she made otherwise there will be consequences for her. She should have said that getting back the potion would make them even, but of course she was worried about Henry at the time and wasn’t concerned about the favor she still owed Mr. Gold.
If Henry’s dad comes back into town, and Mr. Gold suspects that he’s Bae, I think the favor would probably would do with him. I’m sure Snowing will probably hate him for what he did to their daughter, so if Emma is forced to be nice to him to find out if he’s Bae for sure or something like that, I could see that being seen as a betrayal not a major one perhaps, but maybe to Snowing it would be major.
The thing is, I don’t trust Gepetto. We already know that he’s worked behind the scenes for his own happiness. Although I find it hard to dislike him because he chose his son over the world, it wouldn’t be a shock if he finds August (still in wooden form), is for some reason turned away by the Blue Fairy, and turns to Regina out of desperation (maybe mirroring the father/son desperate souls dynamics.)
I like that story idea especially if they have to do a Gepetto/August-centric episode this season. I think it would also be a good way to keep August in the background now because I could see Snowing forgiving Gepetto and August eventually for what happened before, but if Gepetto went to Regina to get help even out of desperation, the Charmings would probably never be able to get over that. Even if August was allowed to be on the War Council and his dad wasn’t, it might be too awkward for August to be around the Charmings for very long.
@Phee wrote:
I’m not convinced that Hook’s hook will actually be in Mr Gold’s shop, I suspect that was just an interesting way for them to shoot a promo for the Hook reveal. But I also suspect that Hook stole Rumple’s wife back in the day, so that’s how I’m gonna explain them having scenes together. 😉
Yes, I think it was just suppose to be a cool promo since Colin O’Donoghue hadn’t even been cast at that time. I also agree though that I think Milha was Rumple’s wife, and that’s how he and Hook will be connected in episode 4.
And I suspect maybe we haven’t had casting info for Milha because they had to cast someone who looks like she’s Bae’s mother, so they didn’t want her face known beforehand. You can’t fool me, Adam and Eddy. I don’t need to see someone’s face to be able to figure out who they are! 😛
It is weird why they won’t reveal who they’ve cast in that role since presumably the actress already must have been cast since this is the episode that she’s suppose to appear in. I wonder if they found someone who looks incredibly like Dylan Schmid and/or Michael Raymond-James, and that’s why they’re keeping it under wraps because unless the actress looks a lot like either of those two actors, I would just assume that Bae took after Rumple or whoever his biological dad might be.
I’ll bet August is still gonna be a big ole’ block of wood in that bed, and it’ll take Mother Superior to make him real again.
This makes sense especially if they’re planning on reducing Eion Bailey’s role. I wonder if he would have stayed as a regular maybe they would have held off more on bringing in Henry’s dad and/or Bae so soon.
And I’ve also got my money on MRJ’s character being Henry’s bio-dad, which would make for a nice little recurring theme in a few eps at the start of the season.
Michael Raymond James turning out to be Bae and Henry’s dad would definitely fit in with the recurring theme of reunions that the first three to four episodes seem to be having based on the spoilers.
Let’s see, the reunions that we’ll see in the first three episodes:
1. Emma, Henry, Snow, and Charming
2. Charming and his mother (I guess they can’t all be happy reunions.)
3. Jefferson and his daughter
4. Probably Gepetto and August
5. Possibly Rumple, Bae, and Henry (Most likely the latter two, maybe not the former two yet.)I don’t think Rumple killed his first wife because, at the time ,he was such a coward that he didn’t have it in him. I think Rumple was telling Bae the truth about his mother being dead, he just conveniently left out the part where she ran off with another man beforehand.
The more I think about it, the more I think Josephine was right in that Milha’s story is going to be like the folk song the “House Carpenter” that way fandom won’t hate Rumple’s ex/Bae’s wife anymore than they already do. It still makes her look bad that she ran off from her husband and son, but if she later regretted and ended up dying, then I think it makes her a lot more sympathetic. It would probably also make people feel even worse for poor Bae who might have the worst sob story out of all the characters, so if he did turn out to be a really, really huge jerk, maybe they’ll be willing to forgive him.
Thanks Antbee for the link. Turn against their own kind sounds like a fairy to me, but who knows. And you are right that the description is probably suspect, but they do usually have someone turn traitor in shows. It seems very unlikely that it would be Red or Granny to me. They may just mean Jefferson joining and helping Charming. Who knows.
You’re welcome. You’re right it could be someone turning against Regina and/or Rumple not necessarily one of the “good” guys turning against them. I suspect if the show runs long enough, we’ll see both scenarios happen at least once.
@Phee wrote:
Have they said Jack will be a criminal? Wasn’t his casting call the one about running from his past in a land full of danger, (which screams Bae to me)? There were so many casting calls in quick succession for a while there, I may be mixed up.
You’re right. It didn’t say anything about Jack being a criminal. I assumed he probably would be someone that is/are was a criminal just based on the original story especially if Jack is Bae since he probably didn’t have a lot of other options when he first landed here.
For Once Upon a Time, the role of [JACK] is being cast (as a “guest role with option”). He’s in his 20s or 30s, charismatic, sexy and mysterious, but also loyal and kind, and he’s running from his past in a land full of danger.
I think you mentioned in another thread about it being weird they haven’t revealed who Jack is yet, but I also think it’s weird we haven’t had the role of Milha cast yet since they just started filming episode 4.
Sounds plenty logical to me. He looks like he could play a rough around the edges, modern day guy. That’s the only type of character he’d have to portray if he was an adult Bae, or an adult Peter Pan, and/or Henry’s father.
Thanks. I’m glad that didn’t seem too illogical.
I think I mentioned in the Season 2 Spoiler thread that I’m beginning to think that he’s going to be introduced as Henry’s father first and then we’ll be in a guessing game all season about him. The pictures coming out of Charming and Henry are so adorable and it looks like Charming is going to be taking a father-figure role with Henry since he currently has no men in his life. I can see this guy rolling in and upsetting the delicate bond the Charmings have made for each other. I assume that they’ll all be living in the MM’s apartment together, at least for right now, so they’ll be navigating how to go along as a family and dealing with those issues.
That would be unexpected to me because I figured that non-storybook characters aren’t allowed to enter Storybrooke because they wouldn’t be able to see it. I think it can work even if that’s true, but it just depends on if the townspeople are aware or not if non-storybook characters can enter Storybrooke. I don’t even know for sure if non-storybook characters can enter or not. I just don’t think they can right now because it’s much easier if they just keep the non-storybook characters out, but people in Storybrooke probably don’t know that for sure right now. (It reminds me of Lil’ Red’s story about Bae coming to Storybrooke, and how it gives the townspeople more incentive to go on doing everyday things if they’re afraid that total strangers can now enter Storybrooke.)
Of course, no one except Rumple and perhaps Henry would ever think that a stranger could be one of their kind since they all pretty much know each other, and Bae disappeared long before any of them were ever around. So I could see Henry’s dad/Bae coming to town, people being scared that non-storybook characters might be able to enter Storybrooke now and trying to act as normal as possible especially when he was around, and Rumple wondering off and on if he could be Bae. The latter could be like a parallel of what happened between August and Rumple except MR-J’s character would leave clues that he wasn’t Bae like fake pictures of him as a child with his parents or things like that to fool Rumple.
I can imagine MRJ coming in and upsetting that balance early on and causing havoc in Storybrooke. If Regina is set on getting Henry back, she might manipulate him to her cause. Either way, it would cause the new Charming clan to have drama in midst of everything going on.
I could see that except if Henry’s dad is really Bae, I think he would be smart enough or intuitive enough to know that Regina really wasn’t trying to help him. So I think he would try to play her just like his dear old daddy by making it seem like he really believed that she was really good and trustworthy, but really working on his own agenda. However, since he doesn’t have hundred of years of experience at manipulating people like his dad, well at least I assume he doesn’t, I could see a situation where Regina finds out that he’s really been playing her, and she tries to do something to him, which is when Rumple has to intervene, which would eventually lead to Bae slowly building a relationship with him again.
@hjbau wrote:
Okay someone a few pages back was talking about one of the characters being a traitor. Was there some sort of news that a character was going to be a traitor? Or was that just an idea that was being bandied around as a possibility?
It’s from a summary about the show from ABC Medianet. http://www.abcmedianet.com/web/showpage/showpage.aspx?program_id=003310&type=lead
Now the fairytale characters must contend with magic in their quest to find a way home, as new fairytale characters are revealed, old acquaintances are revisited, and some we had come to believe could be trusted will turn against their own kind.
I don’t know how reliable the spoiler is because it could just be someone that has no connection at all to the show writing the summary. I got it from someone at FanForums, so I’m not entirely sure if ABCMedianet has been a good source for spoilers in the past.
Of course, it wouldn’t surprise me if at least one character turns out to be a traitor during the run of the show because I think that happens on every genre show if they run long enough, at least.
Anyway, there is confirmation that filming for episode 4 is under way! Colin O’Donoghue tweeted that he’s “strapped on his hook” and is filming with the venerable Robert Carlyle! There is clearly some connection between the two characters, Captain Hook and Rumpelstiltskin, since we saw the promo in which the pirate broke into Mr. Gold’w pawn shop and stole his hook back.
Yes, it looks like the speculation about the fourth episode being Rumple-centric were true. This makes me even more convinced that Milha was Bae’s mom.
I still don’t know about the Bae as Peter Pan theory though. They’re certainly setting it up to make it seem that way right now, but I’m still holding out hope that because Bae was connected with the last magic bean that he’ll turn out to be this mysterious Jack character.
I’m really hoping that the big reveal isn’t that Henry’s dad is Captain Hook! I know it’d be far-fetched (not to mention unpopular). It’s just an annoying thought in the back of my mind. Emma said the father was “no hero” and that Henry didn’t need to know the real story. Is Emma trying to protect Henry? Could Captain Hook side with Regina in an effort to get custody of Henry? I’m hoping this is just a wacky thought, and that Henry’s dad is someone else completely.
I don’t think he is unless Bae turns out to be Captain Hook since they said we may have already seen Henry’s father before. I guess Bae could be Captain Hook, but right now I think that Captain Hook was someone Rumple knew a long time ago because of the Milha character, who I think was Rumple’s wife.
There’s also a new spoiler at TWoP about August that I read last night, but their forums are down right now because of maintenance. I’m not sure how reliable that one is since it’s from a friend of Tony Amendola’s.
ETA: Aw, finally TWoP is back up this morning. Here’s the spoiler,
For what it’s worth, I talked to Tony Amendola (Geppetto) today and asked him if when we come back, if Geppetto knows August/Pinocchio is in Storybrook or not and if he’s filmed scenes with him. While he didn’t give an episode number, he confirmed they were reunite “soon” and “they can’t leave that storyline opened for very long”. He made a comment about Geppetto “visiting Pinocchio’s bedside”. So far he’s in the 3rd episode but he’s filmed more. He also pretty much made it seem that August will not be in good shape when they return as well! I know it’s not the best spoiler but at least we know they’ll find each other sooner, rather than later.
@Josephine wrote:
Bee, this made me smile for some reason. I don’t know who he is, but it sounds good.
Aw, thanks. 😀 I feel weird stalking him through his Twitter, but I’m hoping he’ll reveal more information about his character since it seems like OUaT won’t. I also like how he tweets pretty regularly even if it’s nothing revealing about the show because many of the other cast members are also heavily into Twitter, so he should fit right in.
I have a feeling that whoever he is that he’ll be in Storybrooke first. I’m hoping as Emma’s ex and Henry’s father, but I don’t think they’ll introduced him this early. But like others have said, I’ve gotten it wrong a lot. I was convinced August was NOT Pinocchio because of the red hair. I thought all the clues were red herrings. So I have no idea who he’ll be.
I think he’ll be introduced in Storybrooke first. He just looks like a “modern” type of guy to me, not that he couldn’t do a period character, but I have a hard time picturing him in Fairy Tale Land as some kind of knight, lord, or whatever. That’s one of the main reasons that I think he’s Bae and/or Henry’s father because then I don’t think he’ll have to do that many if any scenes in the past/or in Fairy Tale Land. I know it’s not a very logical reason at all. 😆
I wouldn’t think they would introduce Bae and/or Henry’s dad this early either, but I didn’t expect them to break the curse this soon. So I guess there’s still a chance that he could turn out to be either one or both.
They are SO messing with us. Stupid ‘mysterious-man’ label!
They totally are. It’s so frustrating, and we haven’t even gotten any pictures of him in Storybrooke just hanging out with fans in his costume even though we know he’s already up there.
Beaman: I really think this is the Storybrooke counterpart of Hook, that a notorious pirate would be a real world antiques dealer that obtained some pieces through….questionable means.
I agree that Beaman is most likely going to be Hook’s Storybrooke counterpart because of his names and the description of his character.
Smee: I even think I suggested this at first, thinking he had to tie in with Hook (and that MJR would make a cool pirate based on what I’ve seen him in). Really though, Smee is comic relief. I’m not saying the actor couldn’t be a riot in a comedy, but I haven’t seen him in that role.
I think he could be funny, but I’m not sure if they would include Smee that often just for comic relief on the show. The show is small in the sense that there are only 6-7 main cast members (Emma, Henry, Snow, Charming, Regina, Rumple, and probably Belle), but there’s so many other characters now and so many other characters that they want to bring in that because whoever Michael Raymond-James is going to turn out to be is going to be on pretty regularly this season, I think he must be more important than as a sidekick like Smee.
Jack: He does have a swagger and since Jack is going to be a criminal: I could see it. Also, Jack sounds pretty layered as a character.
This is still my guess just based on his past roles because of the swagger that he’s shown, and the unfortunate fact that he’s been typecast as someone that’s usually a criminal. I don’t know why they won’t just come out and say that he’s Jack then. The only explanation that I can think of beyond the Bae/Henry’s dad mystery is that perhaps Dr. Whale or someone else is Peter Pan, but they want us to think that Michael Raymond-James’s character is going to be.
Peter Pan: Not my favorite option, but looking at the tree house picture…and the episode order, I am starting to wonder. I would be shocked to watch MJR on a sunday night, flying around in green tights…so maybe it’s a wonderful idea?
I would be shocked if he were Peter Pan too for the reasons you gave. I have to admit that they would totally be going in a different direction than what I usually imagine Peter Pan to be like, so I would have to give them credit for that. However, just imagining MRJ flying around in green tights is already sending me into fits of giggles. Plus, if he actually ever had to wear that iconic costume, I would just never be able to take his character seriously again.
The thing is, I would hate (if he is Peter Pan) that he was also Emma’s Ex, Baelfire, or all three. Baelfire landed in a world without magic and, since he probably had horrible experiences in our world like all the other FTL kids, the least they could give the character is a period of time without dealing with magic, fairies, and power-hungry adult males! About the Emma’s Ex part: I don’t want the excuse for whatever happened between them to just be, “Well gosh! He never grew up! Isn’t that just adorably forgivable?” No, it’s a cop-out! I’m even for Emma’s Ex being her true love, but that’s WAY DOWN THE LINE! Seasons away! I read too much into, “Well if true love was easy, then we’d all have it.”
It really is looking like he could turn out to be Peter, so I’m trying to be open to the idea. I don’t like it for the reasons that you don’t like the idea either. I expect Henry’s dad to be very immature or at least was back then, but I do think it’s a cop-out to give him the excuse that he is/was immature because he’s Peter Pan. Also, if Peter Pan is also Henry’s father, it might feel too much like they’re ripping off the movie Hook.
Plus, I would never be able to trust the show again if they had the Blue Fairy saying that Bae would go to a land without magic, but then he landed in Neverland just because the circumstances changed. If there was an indication back in season 1 that it could be true, I would be okay with it like I was okay with finding out the wardrobe actually could have held 2 people because it happened in the same season that they lead us into believing that it could only hold 1 person.
I was ready to finally admit that MJR is probably going to be Baelfire, Henry’s dad, Emma’s Ex, and Jack upon entering this forum today….but now I’m not sure. I assume Baelfire, Henry’s dad, and Emma’s Ex is going to be a pretty big character and in most, after he’s introduced, episodes. It doesn’t make sense, based on how central I thought Bae would be, that he would be flying back and forth for a season. Is that normal for main cast members? I don’t stalk their twitters. (probably should). Clearly, he is going to be an important character, if he’s flying back and forth.
I’ve never followed any actors’ schedules for a show until now because I always start watching a show where there’s big mysteries like OUaT after the show has been on awhile not while everyone is talking about the big mysteries, so I’m not sure how their schedules work either. It seems like it’s pretty easy for some of them to take off for a few days like Josh, Ginny, and Emilie based on recent pictures of them on their break time outside of Canada, so if he’s on their level of importance, which I would expect Bae and/or Henry’s dad to be, I guess it wouldn’t be that unusual for him to be in Vancouver mostly but to be able to fly back and forth for a few days at a time when they’re on a short break or there’s very little of him in an episode.
I’ve done some more spying on his Twitter, and he just posted this today.
MichaelRaymond-James @MRaymondJames
@parrack120 No doubt. I’m headed to NY next week, then back and forth to Vancouver through May. But lets work it out. Miss you brotherInteresting that he basically just revealed that he’s going to be on the show throughout the whole season instead of it being confirmed later on. I still don’t know if he’s Peter, Jack, Bae, Henry’s dad, or some kind of combo of those choices, but it looks like he’ll be on the same level as August was last season right now whomever he is.
There was also this tweet, but it didn’t reveal that much other than he has filmed some scenes.
I’ve yet to fall down during a scene. So, so far so good. Cheers RT @Amylia403 How’s Once Upon A Time life treating you?
@Josephine wrote:
AntBee, what is your name at Fanforum?
It’s just AntBee. 😀 I only started posting there yesterday because everyone was discussing the traitor theory before the new spoilers were released, and I was going to post about how I think one of the betrayals could have to do with someone revealing to Regina about Bae. Then, I got sidetracked when I saw Sarah Bolger was returning and ran out of time, and now everyone has moved on from that spoiler since there’s new spoilers again, which I’m grateful for too.
Touching on the Regina and Bae thing. She hasn’t a clue about Bae. When she paid him a visit in “The Stranger”, she tells him he created the curse for her and he corrects her. The she asks why he did it and he responds “Figure it out” which I feel like was a mistake because she could end up figuring it out. He should have just kept his mouth shut. Which makes me wonder know who actually knows at least a tiny bit about Bae. So far we know: Gold, Belle, Archie, August, and BF/Mother Superior. Anybody else?
Yes, I didn’t like Rumple taunting Regina like that because it certainly seemed like something that would come back to haunt him now that they’re still trapped in Storybrooke, and Regina has her magic too now.
It could be that perhaps the “good” guys find out first about Bae, and then Regina just hears it through the grapevine. Or one of those five people spills. I believe it’s only those five too. Of course, I think Gold could be ruled out completely. I think Belle could almost be ruled out completely too because she’s going to want revenge against Regina, and knows what kind of person Regina is now not to trust her in anyway. So that only leaves 3 people that might reveal the secret to Regina.
Like Phee pointed out, the wording here is interesting. “Some” definitely implies the possibility of more than one character. I think the BF could be one of these characters, potentially. She thinks she serves “the greater good” and has a very utilitarian view of morality. That being said, however, I’d be surprised if she sided with Regina; in fact, I predict this won’t happen since she was very against Regina when the curse was broken in 1×22. I think it’s more likely the BF would try to take control for herself and the fairies. I think Nova will likely join Grumpy though, in a sort of rebellion against the ranks.
Yes, I can’t ever see the Blue Fairy working with Regina at least not this soon. First because I think that would reveal too much about the BF, and because I don’t think Regina’s agenda and whatever the BF’s agenda is align right now. Regina is very short-sighted in thinking about only getting Henry back and getting revenge on the Charming clan whereas I think the BF wants to help the Charmings either because she really likes them and/or it’s part of her agenda for now to be on their side.
Can’t see it being August, because is he really considered trustworthy? He’s one of my fave characters and even I wouldn’t say he’s trustworthy. He was hiding stuff from the moment he rolled into town, wouldn’t reveal who he was or why he was there until he got desperate, and though he claimed to not be a liar, that was totally a lie. One of his fairytale persona’s noteworthy traits is that he lies. So I’m thinking we can rule August out of the equation for this spoiler.
That’s a good point that he’s hardly trustworthy now, but if one of those 3 did spill the beans to Regina about Bae, I’d have to go with August right now, well if he’s human now, because I think he would be the most vulnerable. Plus, I forgot to add before that out of the 3, he maybe the only one that knows about the Dagger, which is something else I’m also very worried about in Regina finding out. The BF might know, but it’s not too clear whether she revealed that information to August or whether Bae may have met August and worked on a plan with him to get the Dagger away from Rumple.
This total lack of spoilers is simulataniously fantastic and frustrating. I swore I’d give up spoilers last week, but I keep looking. The great thing is, that besides Charming’s mom with the wound, nothing much has been revealed at all. They’re doing a great job keeping all the details of the new season hush-hush.
That’s true at first when all the casting announcement kept coming out and the first episode spoilers came out, I was worried that they weren’t going to hold back anything which on one hand would satisfy my spoiler urge, but on the other hand probably wouldn’t leave me too satisfied when watching the show if I knew so much about what was going to happen months in advance.
The two things I really want most right now though are to see who is going to be connected to the fort/swing set, and pictures of Michael Raymond-James on set.
I’ve been thinking over the last several days how it’s a bit odd that we’ve heard no casting info for Jack since the actual casting call. It’s usually not this long between casting call and casting announcement, is it? We’ve had a couple other actors cast, who everyone leapt on screaming “OMG HE’S BAE!” but so far nothing on Jack. If Jack = Bae, then I could see them wanting to keep the ID of the actor under wraps, because everyone’s dying to know who’ll play him and what he’ll look like.
Michael Raymond-James’ mystery character could be Jack of course, but again, why not just reveal that? Unless Jack is someone significant like Bae, whose face they’d wanna keep secret.
Yes, they usually have revealed the casting announcement fairly soon after making the casting call, so that does seem very unusual that they haven’t. Of course, even if Michael Raymond-James is Jack and Bae, it seems weird that they can’t even announce the Jack part because fans are going to speculate that he could also be Bae whether they reveal that or not.
Maybe he’s Peter Pan, or maybe they want people to think he’s Peter Pan. (I suddenly feel like Vizzini in The Princess Bride.)
Thanks for the new pictures. 😀
I didn’t expect Grandpa Charming to teach Henry sword fighting this soon, but I love it. I still wonder where Emma and Snow are though in Storybrooke since I still haven’t seen them. Surely they wouldn’t separate them from the main cast for that long, I think. 😕
Makes you wonder at what he’d learn from his other grandfather……sorry, I just couldn’t resist saying it.
lol, oh it would be great if that could be a happy reunion too and get all type of cute moments, but I’m guessing the Charmings and probably Bae too wouldn’t want Henry around Rumple if that theory turns out to be correct.
Here are the pics from a Jefferson-Grace reunion
Aw, those were sweet and heartwarming too, but not quite as much as the sword fighting ones, imo. It’s hard to tell from just a few pics, but it seems like their reunion goes smoothly.
He’s wearing his school uniform. On Fanforum, it was mentioned that Grace was spotted, too. They must be still going to school. I wonder if Snow is still going to teach. Are they going to continue their jobs? Will Whale still be a doctor? How odd would it be to go to class and have your former queen, assuming Snow White was queen after they took back the kingdom, as your teacher. Since time really hasn’t moved forward all that much Henry must still be in Snow’s class. Maybe they’ll carpool to school together since I’d imagine that they’ll all be living together…Snow, Charming, Emma and Henry.
Yes, this is weird because I figured once everyone knew who they were again that they would stop being their Storybrooke counterparts. Of course, maybe it’s not that easy because I guess things still have to be done, and maybe it’s easier to keep doing their regular routines than hiding out or planning all day for what Regina and Rumple might do next.
No new spoilers yesterday other than Sarah Bolger returning to the set, so I’m resorting to double posting about the ABC Medianet release. 🙁
I was surprised that Red as become one of the top suspects to be the traitor if there is one at Fan Forums. She may regain her wolf form and have trouble controlling it, but she nor Granny have never seemed the traitor type. So I guess it would be a surprising twist if they did turn out to be the traitor, but I don’t think a twist like that could just come out of the blue just to do a twist either.
If it’s not the Blue Fairy, I like the idea of it being Grumpy and Nova turning against the other dwarves and fairies and following through with their love since it would be a happy twist, and not at all like what most people would be expecting in a traitor storyline.
Finally, only one person at Fan Forum has suggested August as the traitor, but the posters were theorizing about how much Regina knows about Bae. I think she knows zero right now, but I wonder if one of the traitors could be in someone finally telling Regina all about Rumple’s son. Obviously, Belle can be ruled out. Right now that leaves only Archie, the Blue Fairy, and August.
Out of those three, I don’t think they would have the Blue Fairy side with Regina by revealing that information to her since that would be showing their hand too early if she really is a Big Bad, imo. Plus, right now revealing that kind of information probably wouldn’t fit with her m.o. where she “helps” people even if it might be for her own hidden agenda.
Archie/Jiminy is a better possibility, but I think most of his storyline this season will be about his redemption for his part in Gepetto’s parents’ deaths and helping people learn to adjust to having dual identities. Plus, he was so spectacularly wrong about Regina when he was Archie when talking to Emma when she was about to leave town that I can’t see him working with her anytime soon.
So that leaves August. I think he could be very vulnerable to being manipulated by Regina especially if she’s able to promise him that she can ensure that he stays a real person forever depending on how he’s transformed back into a human, and if there’s still conditions on staying a real person. The only problem is that he already has so much to redeem himself for that I’m not sure they need to add even more, but on the other hand, if they want to make him more of a background character now, having him reveal that kind of important information to Regina could be one way to do that.
