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@Lil’Red wrote:

@AntBee wrote:

I bet it’s just a recurring part like Aurora and Mulan which will be revealed Monday. It’s killing me waiting for if they cast an adult!Bae anytime soon, and of course wondering who they might get.[/spoiler]

They might have already had actors in mind for an adultBae or Henry’s dad last season and quietly cast those roles. I can’t see them openly announcing Baelfire or anyone that could fit his description, plus since any male role announced would send people in a Baelfire frenzy, I’m with you that it is probably a minor, recurring part and maybe even female.

It turns out that it’s not even anything set in stone, http://www.tvguide.com/News/Once-Upon-Time-Lost-1049691.aspx, they just want to try to get Jorge Garcia to be on the show at some point now that Alcatraz has been canceled. (Unless they’re really going an entirely different route for adult!Baelfire. 😀 )

Yes, I knew it wasn’t actually going to be a major spoiler, but I was really hoping that it was because the second season is still more than 2 months away. It’s good point about the character of adult!Bae that they probably already have actors in mind and maybe we won’t know until he actually appears onscreen, which I hope is really soon. I don’t care if he turns out to be Henry’s father or not, I just want him to appear next season.

But doesn’t Josh have blonde hair? If they were going to cast a Lost actor for the role of Bae, they’ll probably go with Matthew Fox or Jeremy Davies.

Yes, he does, but I figure if Pinocchio can have red hair when he was a child than adult!Bae’s hair could have gotten lighter. 😀 I wouldn’t mind Jeremy Davies, but I think with Josh Holloway, there might be more chemistry there between him and Jennifer Morrison.

I also thought about Matthew Fox back when I was first trying to think of actors that could play adult!Bae, but then that information spilled out from Dominic Monaghan on his Twitter about Fox’s personal life. Even if the information is false, which unfortunately I don’t think it is because Monaghan doesn’t seem like the type that would make up such a nasty accusation, Fox seems to be going through a very rough patch in his life right now, so I’m not sure he would be able to handle the workload of joining a weekly series as one of it’s main characters again.

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There's going to be more casting news on Monday, https://twitter.com/KecksExclusives/status/221319466888339456. TV Guide's William Keck said he'll reveal which actor from Lost, they're trying to get.

Over at IMDb, some of the posters had the same idea that I did that maybe they're trying to get Josh Holloway to be adult!Bae. It's probably not the news that's going to be revealed Monday, but I would be over the moon if it was. 😀

I bet it's just a recurring part like Aurora and Mulan which will be revealed Monday. It's killing me waiting for if they cast an adult!Bae anytime soon, and of course wondering who they might get.

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@Lil’Red wrote:

Before I joined the site, I remember someone stated in a forum the possibility that Henry is the newest link in a cycle of true love. I’m currently looking through old posts, and hopefully can give this person credit later on. The idea was that Ruth and her husband were each other’s true love and had Charming. King Leopold and Snow’s mother had true love and made Snow. Then the products of true love meet, we’re each other’s true love, and made Emma. If Henry’s dad does turn out to be Emma’s true love, Henry has generations of true love behind him, and if magic is fueled by true love in this world, Henry could probably be very powerful (but in need of training.)

I agree that there is something very special about Henry. I like to think that the Curse being enacted by Regina will lead to something meaningful and something that wouldn’t have happened just like how if Rumple hadn’t needed the true love potion, Snowing and Emma being a child of theirs likely wouldn’t happened, and the first part of it would be Bae and Emma being each other’s true loves and the other part would be Henry.

Plus, while I’m not sure if Bae will ever be able to truly forgive his father for everything, I think it would make Bae a lot more conflicted about wanting to forgive his father if he realized that he would have never met Emma had they both gone into the vortex or if his father hadn’t created the Curse.

That might be me. *raises hand* I had to go searching for it, but I remembered writing a big long thing about it and posting here and at Fanforum. They weren’t too enthralled by the idea over there.

Aw, I guess I can see why some people wouldn’t like the idea since they could be against the idea of every character on the show only getting one true romantic love, but then I wonder why they would watch it since that’s what happens in fairy tales. I really love this theory though and hope it turns out to be true.

I don’t think they should use any weird DNA testing or blood type things to further the plot. I think that Henry’s father is just going to come into town.

Yes, before magic was reintroduced, I thought that DNA testing or someone needing a rare type of blood or an organ donation of some kind, might be how everyone finds out that Rumple is Henry’s grandfather, but now I think it will likely happen in some other way.

The first idea is that maybe there’s a magical equivalent to a DNA test, and while trying to find where Bae’s at, Rumple does his spell thingy, and somehow discovers that Henry is Bae’s son. Or maybe Rumple does a protection spell at his house and shop where only family members and Belle would be allowed to enter, and Henry is able to enter making Rumple realize they’re related to each other.

The other idea is that Rumple uses his favor to have Emma find Bae, and then they both come to realize that Bae is Henry’s father. In this kind of scenario, I could actually see Regina wanting to find Henry’s father for some reason, so that all three are looking for the same person, and everyone except Rumple is horrified when they discover Henry’s dad is Rumple’s son.

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I’m with you on this AntBee: it’s SO not there for me. Daniel just didn’t get enough scene time or backstory to leave me invested in his character. Instead of writing a compelling love story, explaining WHY he was her one true love or HOW they fell in love: he just felt like kill fodder the entire time. They didn’t even give him a personality to work with: he was just generic and good – and somehow his death was supposed to make me understand/sympathize with a grown woman systematically destroying everyone’s lives all to reach her main target: a 13 year old girl (technically not anymore, but still).

Thanks. 😉 I have to say that you wrote what I was trying to get at much better though. I guess it wasn’t just about lack of chemistry there between Regina and Daniel although that was certainly part of it, but you’re right he felt more like fodder than an actual character that the audience could sympathize with. He was just so bland and forgettable.

@Lil’Red wrote:

Might have to read some Daniel fanfics tonight to find out what he’s like! 😆

lol, I know on fanfiction.net, I’ve seen a few pop up, not that I’m really interested in reading them. All but one of them seem to be about Regina and Daniel reuniting somehow, and I did read one of those only because it featured Baelfire and Emma in it. It was interesting, but even in that story, I don’t remember Daniel having a personality at all. 😀

I guess the fairest comparison would be Daniel and Peter. Both serve the purpose of plot devices (Daniel=Foil to Cora Peter=Wolf red herring), love interests set-up to die, and probably the same amount of screen time. However, we learned about the past of Red and Peter’s relationship: that they were friends growing up, recently developed into a romantic couple, and wanted to go off and travel/explore with each other. Was it the greatest romance ONCE had to offer? Was Peter Red’s true love? No and No. But, for his limited time, I understood the attraction at least.

Daniel is beating Peter in the fanfic range, so maybe Daniel does have more of a personality to work with. Or Regina has a lot more fans than Red.

Yes, I sort of figured out what the twist was going to be in “Red-Handed” with either Red or Granny turning out to be the wolf by the end, and that Peter was going to end up being killed by whomever was the wolf, but I did feel sadder about his death than Daniel’s because they did give him more of a backstory than Daniel.

I also agree that Daniel probably just has more stories about him right now because Regina has a lot more fans than Red. Plus, it’s probably a good and probably easier way to redeem Regina through the romantic love that she had with Daniel rather than trying to redeem her through the love that she has with Henry since that is a lot more complicated.

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@TheLadyBelle wrote:

Good point. Everything would have been different for all these characters(and maybe even loads of other characters we’ve not met yet) if he’d gone with Bae.

Yes, it’s a good point about the others, but for Bae, I wonder if his life would have been basically the same even if his father had come with him.

It’s hard for me to articulate what’s going on with the whole Bae and Emma situation, assuming that he’s Henry’s father of course, without knowing the Blue Fairy’s true motives right now because I do think she has some kind of motive. I guess it’s more I can’t figure out if whatever the Blue Fairy’s agenda might be has to do with Rumple more or Bae, Emma, and Henry more. Like did she need Rumple to help more people get their happy endings and/or to bring them to our world because of Mike’s theory that FTL was dying. Or was Rumple just the first part in her plan in order to get Bae, Emma, and Henry to get where they are now. I do think that both are important parts of whatever the BF wanted to happen, but I wonder which would be the most important part of the equation.

Also, Lil’Red has a great theory about “bean” holes which I hope she’ll share here like she did on Tumblr. I didn’t think about it before, but it makes perfect sense to me now.

I thought Lil’Red would have posted, but her theory was that Bae is in Boston because of the wordplay about Boston being Beantown. I love this idea. First, I love it because of the other clever wordplay that they gave about Bae if he is in fact Henry’s father. Second, I love it because I bet he started to watch over Emma after he figured it out about Storybrooke. Or maybe he just happened to live in Boston, and Emma moved to Arizona after whatever they had went bad. Although I’m not sure about that because I like Phoenix, Arizona being a subtle wordplay clue too since Baelfire reminds me of a phoenix.

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@Lil’Red wrote:

@darcyfarrow wrote:

Oh yes, and both are material girls.

For all Regina’s pleas that money means nothing in Stable Boy, she certainly did make herself comfortable in Storybrooke. 😯

Yes, I guess that’s part of the reason that I didn’t the like the explanation of why Regina hates Snow White and wants revenge on her. I do think that Daniel was her one true love because of her actions that came later, but I do wish that Regina’s scenes with Daniel actually conveyed that he was. I just didn’t feel any chemistry there at all, and it did somewhat feel like Regina didn’t commit herself to Daniel earlier not because she was scared of her mom but because she didn’t want to marry someone who was a stable boy either. It’s unfortunate because Lana Parrilla usually generates chemistry with all of her co-stars, and I might have a little more sympathy for Regina if I felt that what she had Daniel equaled what Snow and Charming have or what Rumple and Belle have. Or even what Dreamy and Nova have or what Abigail and Frederick have.

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I’ve been actually thinking about this, and wondered if their lives would have been that much better had they both jumped. Of course, they would have been together, and Bae would know his father didn’t abandon him. Yet I wonder if Bae somehow landed somewhere that might not have been too different from the world that they left, and if Rumple had jumped, they both would have been in a similar situation they were in before where both were powerless. Besides his dad not coming with him turning him bitter, if he does happen to be Henry’s father and a jerk like Emma described him, I think it would make him even more cynical to go to a world where he a lot of the same problems he was trying to escape from before like perhaps people preying on him because of his vulnerability.

Also, Lil’Red has a great theory about “bean” holes which I hope she’ll share here like she did on Tumblr. I didn’t think about it before, but it makes perfect sense to me now.

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@Gaultheria wrote:

I think that action is only suited to a supporting role in this series. This is a puzzle show with a strong character component, an intertwined set of relationship mysteries. Regina’s smile is far more menacing than an army of ogres could ever be.

While in theory I’d like the show to go big like this with the stakes in why Rumple brought magic back for sure, I agree that unfortunately I don’t think that they do action that well. In fact, I felt that the last two episodes were really off in comparison to the few episodes that came right before like “The Return” and “The Stranger” because they tried to fit too much action in them, and some the action scenes just weren’t that interesting like the whole storming the castle story in “An Apple Red As Blood”. So I agree that when they reveal one of the answers to a big mystery, they do a much better job in general.

There’s also the many inconsistencies that unfortunately pop up again and again, so I think that would only multiply if they tried to do a show with multiple worlds not just three worlds (FTL, Earth, and Wonderland) so far along with many characters from those other worlds we haven’t seen yet. I think they would be fine in tiny amounts like they did in “Hat Trick”, but I don’t know if I would trust them if they started focusing heavily on those multiple worlds.

It would be very interesting concept though if done right, but right now I’m okay with the show just primarily being a puzzle show with a strong character component because I still think that there’s a lot that they can do there.

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@Gaultheria wrote:

Do we even know for certain who Henry’s mother is? Has it been confirmed on-air that Henry was right?

True we don’t actually know that for sure either, but I think that’s just something that we’re not suppose to question especially because true love’s kiss worked between them both. When we find out how Henry was brought to Storybrooke, I think we’ll get confirmation that Emma is really his birth mom.

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@scaredcrow65 wrote:

@AntBee wrote:

Awesome news. I’ll delete my thread. I figured that they would too after her pilot wasn’t picked up, but I’m glad that there’s finally confirmation on it.

Oh, sorry, I wasn’t sure if someone had already posted it or not. Do you want me to delete mine instead? It’s totally no problem

No, it’s okay. I just happened to post mine at the same time. I was just so excited. Now they don’t have to make it awkward trying to explain long absences by Belle onscreen.

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