Forum Replies Created
-
AuthorPosts
-
April 12, 2017 at 1:05 pm in reply to: 6×16 "Mother's Little Helper"–Favorite and Least Favorite Moments #335855Bar FarerParticipant
These are supposed to be our “heroes” and they are being self centered, hypocritical jerks
I have to say that the idea of a hero having to be perfect in every way, is a little old-fashioned. Emma has always been a flawed, impulsive character and if she (and others) always made the right/noble choice it would make for pretty uninteresting viewing. She is responding emotionally to a situation that she has encountered several times before – first with Neal being taken away from her, and then with Hook ending up in the Underworld. I can totally understand that she wants to cut to the chase and do what needs to be done. She is fed up of having everything that she loves taken away from her.
At the end of the day, yes she is a hero, but first and foremost she is a human being. We make mistakes, we act emotionally, we don’t always do the right thing.
But they don’t treat it as a flaw or a mistake that she has to learn from. I’m all for flawd characters, but the whole point is for them to understand it, learn from it and grow as a person.
It was played as “bas ***” Emma, no one called her out and it will never be mentioned again.
[adrotate group="5"]"All your questions are pointless"
April 12, 2017 at 12:52 pm in reply to: 6×16 "Mother's Little Helper"–Favorite and Least Favorite Moments #335853Bar FarerParticipantI feel like they wanted to do it because Emma would be “bad ***”, maybe because of the popularity of the line “maybe I just need to punch you in the face”, not realizing the different context or that context even matter.
"All your questions are pointless"
Bar FarerParticipantThey are filler because what Hook is doing in the Enchanted forest and Neverland does not matter. They were pointless scenes.
So him getting back home doesn’t matter? You’re not making any sense.
Would a mcguffin in Neverland be any different from a mcguffin elsewhere? Did we really need the scenes of blackbeard and him?
I guess it depends whether Blackbeard factors into the bigger story? For all we know he could end up being hugely important (most likely not, but we don’t know for sure!)
He’s not. I’m not giving them the benfit of the doubt anymore.
This whole thing with Hook seems pointless because they have him face unconected nonesense with different people instead of have him face some kind of journey of self refelction and atonement.
He first does something with I don’t even remember their names, then enter Jasmine with her side story which has nothing to do him (except some unappropriate parallel I guess?), by the way the first two characters are not needed anymore so they basically said “the plot doesn’t need us goodbye”, then we get stupid jokes with blackbeard and now some stuff with the lost boys (who are suddenly still in neverland) and tiger lily (a character that the audience hasn’t met before). All this instead of having him face event that would raise the question of “am I a good person?”, “How can I make things right with the people I’ve wronged?”, “Do I even deserve a happy ending?”, Etc..
"All your questions are pointless"
Bar FarerParticipantThey are filler because what Hook is doing in the Enchanted forest and Neverland does not matter. They were pointless scenes.
So him getting back home doesn’t matter? You’re not making any sense.
Would a mcguffin in Neverland be any different from a mcguffin elsewhere? Did we really need the scenes of blackbeard and him?
"All your questions are pointless"
Bar FarerParticipantWatsonian explanation is Rumple lost this power when he died.
Doylist explanation is the writers stopped following some sort of outline or plan so they couldn’t have Rumple “foresee” events they didn’t know about in advance.
"All your questions are pointless"
Bar FarerParticipantIn my opinion, the smartest thing to do is to end the show this season. Based on interviews and the direction of the show, season 6 is basically the final season. Even if the show gets season 7, it will be a completely different show, so they basically start a “new show” with the disadvantage of starting it with ~0.8 demo ratings.
They should just take their chances with new shows. abc even have the advantage of using popular franchises like Star Wars.
I wonder if it would make financial sense to move OUAT to the Disney Channel. They’d have to retool it a bit — cut costs, tone down the sex and violence, do away with location shooting, and go to half-hour episodes — but they already have cast, costumes, and virtual and practical sets. Might be a way to keep the franchise going for several more years.
It will move to Freeform before it moves to the Disney channel. Either channel I doubt the actors would want to stay on the show if it actually moved.
"All your questions are pointless"
Bar FarerParticipantThe question is, if they do get 0.6 next sunday and for the remain of the season they get btw 0.7 and 0.8, how does that makes next season, where they won`t get half of the cast most viewers are used to seeing on the show?
Even if S7 is really last season and they get half season, would be wise for ABc to renew a show that with the numbers of ratings they are having now, with 0.8/0.7 and possibly 0.6 demo, putting in risk the show,where they may even have to take it of air after some epis, bc the ratings may drop even more?Or should they simply start saying now that this is last Season?
In my opinion, the smartest thing to do is to end the show this season. Based on interviews and the direction of the show, season 6 is basically the final season. Even if the show gets season 7, it will be a completely different show, so they basically start a “new show” with the disadvantage of starting it with ~0.8 demo ratings.
They should just take their chances with new shows. abc even have the advantage of using popular franchises like Star Wars.
"All your questions are pointless"
Bar FarerParticipantProbably 0.6 next week.
Then it’ll be 0.7-0.8 for the rest of the season."All your questions are pointless"
Bar FarerParticipantI agree it is ridiculous dialogue, but it is possible that Emma and Snow are saying this because they are trying to get Rumpel and Belle to react.
If that’s what they are trying to do, they are not doing it very well cause Belle doesn’t eeact to anything.
It was basically like thisEmma and Snow: We gonna kill your son
Belle: la la la"All your questions are pointless"
Bar FarerParticipantI think i need context, but Rumpel and Belle are no one to Emma and Snow. They never have been in any way that matters.
I dunno…Emma did once call Rumple “family” and that was the reason she’d “save him” way back in S2. And even if they are no one to Emma and Snow, they are someone to Henry and moreover they are *people* and *parents* and the idea that Emma just blasts into the shop and says she’ll kill Gideon–not because he’s threatening to kill her or because he is a menace to the town she’s sworn to protect–but because Gideon “messed with her” by sending away Hook, oof. She sounds like a petulant high schooler.
And Snow just sounds stupid when she says she’ll be happy to help because it’s mother-daughter bonding…as she says this to Belle, a mother who is trying to save her own child!! I mean, I thought Snow learned her lesson after the whole Maleficent/dragon egg thing when she realized that Mal’s baby was still that–a baby!–and it’s hypocritical of her to want to save her own child over someone else’s. Isn’t this an almost exact riff on that theme???
Snow, like the writers, forgot about the Lily incident and isn’t affected by it or anything that happened before the current storyline.
"All your questions are pointless"
-
AuthorPosts