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Did you guys see the Ask Aussiello thing? He said a lot of the actors contracts are up and it’s not a slam dunk guarantee that OUAT will be renewed for S7. He still has it as a safe bet but sounds like multiple actors contracts are up.
The contract of all the original main actors from season 1 is ending this April. I think A&E will continue as long as abc renews the show even if it means doing it without their lead actress and main cast, hence the idea of rebooting the show in season 7.
They’ll renew some contracts I imagine and others will be let go. JMO is IMO the one they have to get cause she’s the star of the show. I think she’s a lock and probably Colin and Lana as well. Colin is good for another year. I could see Bobby and Emilie(even if her contract wouldn’t be up) leaving the show and Gosh staying on recurring status or they’ll get pushed to regular
My speculation is based only on actors’ interviews or attitude towards the show, but in my opinion (and only mine):
Jennifer – can go either way, probably leaving
Ginny – leaving
Josh – leaving
Lana – staying
Robert – leaving
Jared – staying
Emilie – can go either way, probably leaving
Colin – staying
Rebecca – can go either way, probably staying
"All your questions are pointless"
Did you guys see the Ask Aussiello thing? He said a lot of the actors contracts are up and it’s not a slam dunk guarantee that OUAT will be renewed for S7. He still has it as a safe bet but sounds like multiple actors contracts are up.
The contract of all the original main actors from season 1 is ending this April.
I think A&E will continue as long as abc renews the show even if it means doing it without their lead actress and main cast, hence the idea of rebooting the show in season 7.
"All your questions are pointless"
I don’t think they have a plan for the ending. I don’t think they know how they are going to end this season let alone the series as a whole.
No, they really don’t. Moreover, they don’t even care.
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This is the swanfire appreciation thread, where we appreciate swanfire and not captain swan.
This is the swanfire appreciate thread, not the bash captainswan thread and make outrageous claims where because you hate CS, you think the only logical thing for Emma’s character to end with is for her breaking up with somebody they have held as her bf for almost 3 seasons. At the end of the day, Emma’s final bow should have something to do with being the Savior. It shouldn’t have anything to do with Hook. But they also shouldn’t just break them up. What would that say about all the time they put into keeping this relationship together for the last few seasons?
It would say that the only purpose of this relationship is fanservice, and A&E no longer care about fans. I don’t think they’re in denial about season 7 being the final season, in that case the eyes of CSers won’t matter to them.
I kind of hope that the show continues to season 7 without Emma Swan, it wil prove to everyone that:
1. A&E are talentless hacks who will continue doing the show as long as abc lets them, even if it means to continue without their main lead.
2. They never had any plans for the ending.
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Wouldn’t be great if Jennifer really wanted out of the show so Emma actually dies at the end of the season (no one will see that coming) and she will be reunited with Neal in the afterlife (the afterlife is their Tallahasse!!) and of coure because they have to copy Buffy all the time, someone will tell Emma “death is your gift”.
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Well, there is this article with Robert Carlyle https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/jan/08/t2-trainspotting-robert-carlyle-begbie-interview?CMP=twt_gu where he said: “I’m at the stage where even though Britain is in a mess politically, I think it’s time to pack up and come home.” So I think that means that he is pretty much done with OUAT and that season 6 is his final season.
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When I try to think when the problems of OUAT began, I think abput two options: the second half of season 2 (“2B”) and season 3B.
In season 2B, they decided to kill Cora early in order to get into the Peter Pan storyline, which made the end of season 2 feel anticlimactic in comparison to season 1. However, I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt because their main focus was still the characters, we got to see Emma dealing with her ex, someone she loved very much, her kid’s father and their relationship, their past and learning that he is connected to Storybrooke and her fate as the savior; we got to see Rumple dealing with finally finding his son, the fact that his son didn’t want anything to do with him; we got to see Snow trying to deal with the murder she committed; we got to see Regina dealing with her inner darkness (when it wasn’t so repetitive).
My major issue was with 220, if you want to make Regina sympathetic, it is best not to show her ordering the massacre of an entire village (something that later becomes a major problem because the writers THINK the audience doesn’t care about the smallfolks, thus the writers don’t care about them, translated into the characters not caring about them so why exactly are they considered heroes? Because they care about Hook?).
Then came season 3A and I was willing to forgive them about the problems of season 2B. I see that this season is not among the favorable seasons and it’s a shame, it really is underated. What is so great about 3A is that it had a strong theme of family and parenthood that held the plot and characters really tight, we saw it in Emma and Snow’s conversations and how Emma feels that she’s a lost girl, we saw it in Emma’s drive to save her son (“I choose Henry”), we saw it in Regina in “Save Henry” (“All I have is him”), we saw it in Neal and Henry, and the parallels to Rumple and Baelfire and of course Pan and Rumple. This season was great on its own and in how it connects to the overall thems of the entire series (1-3A) which ultimately gave the most satisfying and the best conclusion of all the seasons.
Then came 3B and it went downhill ever since. My biggest problem is the way they handled Neal. In the beginning of the season we had Regina teasing Emma about Hook being her “boyfriend” and Snow said “she just lost Neal”, Emma’s reaction was “how can you be so insensitive after I lost someone I love and care about”, but when Neal actually died, approximately 3-4 days after according to the shows timeline she got together with Hook, how is this consistent in anyway?! You want them to be together? Fine, but do it organically, otherwise ot doesn’t make sense. Keep them apart long enough for Emma to grieve and for Hook to make amends with the people he hurt like Archie and Belle, and perhaps even Rumple. But that’s not the only thing, it seemed like they didn’t want to pay attention to details in order for things to make sense in the larger scope of the series so we get weird stuff like Cora being betrothed to Leopold even when it didn’t make sense with 118, we get splitting heart “twist” even if it doesn’t align with what we know about magical hearts and it contradicts the dead is dead rule, we get scenes like the heroes starting shooting flying monkeys, which we learned (in the same episode) that those are innocent people who got turned into flying monkeys by Zelena, and then no reaction by them after learning that they killed innocent people (these peasants nobody cares about). But the worst thing is how they turned Emma into a huge mcguffin that never had any significant role in the arc, except her becoming Hook’s girlfriend. They never needed to cast the DC again, all they needed to do was give Regina a pep talk and then she’s good to defeat Zelena (that’s what actually happened). Emma got shoved aside in order to focus on the fan favorites Regina and Hook. By the end of season the forcibly got the characters to where they wanted them to be and now they go through a recycled character arc that gets resetted each season, they ignore past events, they ignore what the characters used to be and what motivated them like Rumple who was turned into a different character entirely, or Snow and Charming who suddenly have no reaction towards Ingrid, a woman who raised their long lost daughter for a time, which not being able to raise their child was a key element in their characterization and arc.
The showrunners gave into fanservice and their decision making is based on that, the fans want CS -kill Neal and pretend like he never existed, the fans want SQ – lots and lots of queerbaiting, the fans like Disney – Frozen and Brave fanfics with ridiculous blue hair for Hades. Robin is boring (because they didn’t make the effort to develope him properly) – Kill him off, fans are angry that Robin was killed – bring him back.
In conclusion, they don’t try to tell a compelling story with compelling characters. They try to have the series as long as they can by doing fanservice time after time in the hopes it would give them high enough ratings to get renewed. That is really the problem with OUAT.
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I might elaborate later when I have time, but it all comes down to the writers becoming lazy since 3B. If the want to do something they do it even if it doesn’t make sense. If something complicates things, they ignore it etc…
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So I watched the finale and I have some thoughts on the show as a whole.
This show is one of the most intelligent shows ever made, the plot was interesting, the actors are great. However, I believe the show has one major flaw that has prevented me personally to really be invested and that is that I can’t relate to any of the characters, care about them or sympathize with them.
I’m really interested to see what they plan for season 2 though.
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