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This is a post that i saw on a girl called KiKi on tumblr, she says some good things, was answer to some other post on tumblr, here , is about how media and some actors from outside the ouat cast, actually support the bullies by encouraging them, this was about a TV line article where someone was talking bad of Rumple and matt agreed with that person and even answered someone to not make any more Rumbelle questions.
This is, sadly, a pretty explicit example of exactly why the fandom is the way it is and why the CSers/Hook stans have become such a huge problem. The people with influence let them. Beyond that, they even encourage them. It starts with Kitsowitz, in particular AH, who only gives consistent attention to one group while ignoring most others, and who responds to criticism with childishness. His favoritism toward CSers and his silence toward their behavior enables and encourages them. And that bleeds over into the people like Mitovich and Yvette Nicole Brown. People who technically aren’t involved with the production of the show, but are involved in it in a peripheral way, and whose position or “fame” gives them influence. In reality, they’re little more than fans themselves, but their position elevates them. So like the rest of the CSers/Hook stans, they take their cues from Kitsowitz. (Though considering the behavior some of these people, like YNB, display in other fandoms where the writers aren’t quite so encouraging to bullies, she’d behave the same way regardless). Dismiss those who criticize. Dismiss those who have problems with canon. Blatantly insult those who don’t agree with you. The CSers/Hook stans see that. They see the other groups and fans being dismissed by the writers. They see the other groups and fans being dismissed and bullied by these “big name” fans of influence. And they get it into their heads that it’s okay, that this is the way people should be treated. And they follow the lead. And then Kitsowitz and these fans of influence see it, and either ignore it, as Kitsowitz does, or encourage and take part, as people like YNB and Mitovitch have done.
Mitovitch and YNB want to stay on A&E’s good side. I just hope once the show is over that some of the people involved won’t stay quiet. What bothers me the most is that by trying to hide their incompetence, they lie about what they originally planned and claim that they “planned” Hook and Emma since season 1 AFTER the fact, letting CS fans feel that they are the “true” fans that saw the “true” story being told, while there are a lot of evidences that suggest otherwise, A&E’s interviews and interviews with JMO, MRJ, Colin and Eion back when season 2 aired. In addition, do they really believe we forgot about the money he left her but she never got and that was never explained?!
Moreover, the fact that they never defended MRJ when he got all the hate and when those horrible rumors about him were made up as well as how they don’t defend Lana really disgust me. These are actors that has been working for you and they suffer because you can’t stand up against that group in the fandom and call them out on their bad behavior.
I just have no respect for these guys and anyone who enables them to continue with this.
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This reminds me of another TV show callwd Charmed. Charmed amd OUAT have a lot of similarities.
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I dont like this reporter very much mostly bc she is very anti neal and very pro SQ, but her articles are in some way funny http://www.bustle.com/articles/140102-once-upon-a-time-season-5b-could-save-someone-from-the-underworld-but-will-it-be
I thought that report actually sounded positive towards Neal.
Yeah on this one, but she did a previous one where she called him jerk, for dating a minor and that send emma to jail pregnant, but in this case, like most SQ fans, if no SQ, bwt Hook and Neal they prefer Neal.
I honestly don’t understand that logic, she claims Neal is a jerk because of what he did to Emma, but Regina is a saint for seperating Emma from her parents and making her grow up alone?
Sometimes I like OUAT critics for pointing out the ridiculous things that OUAT does, but I don’t understand how a professional critic can point out the flaws of one character while neglect the flaws of the other.
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I liked this:
“While I’m pleased that Snow and Charming might actually get some real screen time beyond standing around looking dumbfounded by their daughter’s complete 180 in behavior and attitude, the big takeaway from that statement is that “some of these people can be saved and brought out”… of hell. Sure, Dallas could be misleading us as people on this show are wont to do, but given the other improbable and ridiculous things that have happened over the past 12 episodes or so, I wouldn’t put it past Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis. Which begs the question: Why bother to create any rules if you’re just going to break them when it’s convenient? “
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I don’t think Zelena will leave the show, mainly because I never saw the need for her return, which IMO, was done for fanservice, and things that are made by fans demands usually stay on the show forever.
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I don’t think Roland would’ve been ring bearer for the fact that he’d be terrified of Rumple considering Rumple aimed an arrow at his face. Sure, Rumple was being controlled but Roland is hardly going to understand that. As far as he is concerned, Rumple tried to hurt him.
Nah, Roland will just apologize for him and blame himself like other characters on the show.
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I hope they won’t go with the switch. Let’s not make Snow dumber than she already is.
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Emma lost her savior status the moment she kissed hook. Untill then she was a savior. She saved everyone from cora, she saved the town from the diamond she saved Regina from the wraith, hooks ship from the mermaids etc. But the moment she kissed hook, all she became was a whiner. Im the savior! I never get a day off! Meanwhile, Regina saved everyone. Emma was useless. Rumple saved everyone. Emma was useless. Regina saved everyone again and again, and Emma was nothing but a whining toddler. That is why Rumple was so disappointed when she did not choose to send her powers to the hat. She was very powerful, but did nothing with her powers because she was hook’s girl. If she had the sense to give up her powers, hook might have broken up with her, as the price of losing her magic i guess maybe he only wanted her because of her powers, but she woukd become an ordinary person. Because she didnt so this, because she didnt let the hat suck out her powers, she turned to darkness. Because Power currupts, weather its light or dark power, it currupts. Gold was hoping she would choose not to have power. As the true hero he thought she was. He created a savior. Hook distroyed the savior. Good thing he had a back up plan for a savior. Regina.
I don’t think that Emma lost her savior status in 3A. Yes the kiss was OOC as well as Neal making a contenst with Hook in 307 while their son is in danger. However, even though Emma didn’t directly defeated Pan, she was the one who led everyone, without her none of the others would have succeeded.
I think the season that really did a disservice to Emma’s savior status is 3B, and not just because of Hook, but because of Regina as well. They made such a huge deal about Emma being the only one who can defeat Zelena, they sacrificed Charming and casted the dark curse only for her to do absolutely nothing, it was all given to Regina in the most rushed and ridiculous way, she could have done that in the EF, no curse needed. Of course the manipulative writing makes sure to inform us that “Emma defeated Pan, Emma defeated Zelena” as Hook states in 322. You can’t argue that, it was in the script. Ultimately, the writer’s main goal in 3B was 1) Pair Emma with Hook. 2) Redeem Regina. Both goals did a disservice to all of the characters and my reason to hate this season so much.
Season 4 didn’t make Emma’s savior status so small compared to season 3B because she did try to help others get their “Happy Ending” (by others I mean Elsa because Ratings and Regina because main characters don’t deal with consequences for things they did. No Marian, you don’t get a “Happy Ending”, you’re not important enough. All you get is hate for being alive).
Of course, Regina saved the town 10 +- times, but it is conveniently forgotten in 502 because of plot.
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Oh no, i think Emma has been really different for awhile. she’s not the same person and i know characters can grow and change, i think emma’s growth stopped after the save henry arc. like someone said previously about emma, its as if her development is going through a loop without progression, that every season she gets reset. Emma used to be awesome. She borders on annoying sometimes, to me. Most of the characters have shades of this nowadays to varying degrees..
I think Emma stopped growing as a character after 3A. Every arc she has to accept something (Storybrooke as her home, her magic, her parents) – things that she has already accepted during season 2-3A, so what was the point?
However, Emma has changed, in my opinion season 5A has devolved her character, instead of coming out of the darkness stronger, she came out weaker.
She became obssessive with a man to the point she’s willing to endanger her family and leave Storybrooke unprotected (she’s the savior of this town, doesn’t that mean anything anymore?), all of this she does for a guy, that’s being selfish towards every other character in this show. A strong character wouldn’t have gone to the underworld, she would have delt with the loss and let her family be there for her.
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Wait a minute…what about the Author? Couldn’t they have just said the Author wrote and changed Regina and Zelena’s story from what it once was? He thought it was too perfect for two sisters to find each other, and thought two bitter sisters worked so much better. Isaac did tamper with a lot in the book, and someone restores the original memories to Regina and Zelena which will although make their relationship a little uncomfortable considering they’d realize they’ve been hurting the one person they should care for, and it would bring the WickedSisters to a point of just starting their relationship over from scratch.
You’re refering to something from a previous season, you don’t really expect the writers to remember that…
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