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And once again, welcome aboard Nod! Love your location. East of the Sun West of the Moon was in one of my favorite fairytale collections as a kid.
[adrotate group="5"]Since the people in Storybrooke don’t really know Neal, more likely it would be Emma vouching for her and Neal with the townsfolk. They might need Tamara for a logistical reason. From the Canadian promo I think it was suggested that Rumple needs the dagger to heal himself. That means they can’t leave him in a NY hospital. They couldn’t take him on a plane like this. Neal might not have a car (didn’t use one in the season opener), so Tamara might have to help them save Rumple by driving them back. I doubt Hook will be offering his ship to save his enemy.
Hooray for another rider on the Her train. Welcome, Nod!
As CrownedWithLaurels noted Emma was commiting a very skilled and practiced felony when Neal met her. Neal was the one who suggested that they go straight and settle down in a real home. The watch money was meant to give them a start and new identities. Neal was trying to change his lifestyle for Emma before August popped up with his typewriter box o’ mysteries and started talking about Emma’s destiny.
When August and Neal met in Canada and Neal gave him the car and money for Emma, it always sounded to me like August was forbidding Neal from being with Emma. When Neal says he wants to talk to August about Emma, August responds, “I hope you’re not trying to reach out.” After telling Neal that Emma got eleven months in a minimum security prison in Phoenix, August quickly adds, “and, no, I’m not going to tell you which one.” (sounds like Neal has been bugging him for info) Then August immediately adds, “She’ll get out of there, and she’ll be fine. You keep your promise and steer clear, and she can have a good life.”
It sounds like August’s plan is to scare Emma straight and use her heartbreak to give her a reason to avod thieves in future. It’s not like he sent her to prison until she turned 28 to keep her safe inside the system.
Neal’s lines in this scene include talking about how he should be the one in prison, questioning how August’s prison plan is good, giving the car and all the money so that by helping her he can feel like he is with her, and of course telling August, “If I can’t be there for her, then you’ve got to promise me that you will be.” Not to mention asking to be notified if Emma breaks the curse and is finally free. That all reinforces the fact that August has told Neal he can’t be with Emma and made him promise to stay away.
Early in the scene Neal admits that he’s been trying unsuccessfully to lose himself since his last meeting with August and that he hopes that knowing Emma’s okay will allow him to move on. It sounds like that is something that August is encouraging so that Neal doesn’t break his promise. We don’t know yet how any of this might fit with Tamara, but it could be as simple as Neal believing that August only writing “Broken” on a postcard indicated that Emma had moved on and might not even be available after fulfilling her destiny.
I’m gonna stop here because this is taking forever to type on a mobile device.
I suspect the hearts signify some kind of love in the pairings but not necessarily true love. I can’t imagine anyone calling Rumple/Milah true love with how quickly she went from worrying over him to wishing him dead. Him murdering her for running off with Hook is another death knell in that one being true love for me. Wish they’d put a key on that tree for the heart symbol.
Age: Late thirties
Marital Status: Single
Ships: I’m hardcore on Swanfire and Rumbelle. Also getting into WhaleWolf a bit.Definitely not into a Mad Hatter spinoff. I’d rather they had Sebastian Stan just appear a couple times a year on OUAT rather than recasting so they could make a spinoff about one of the worlds that I’m less interested in from the OUAT universe. Agree that Neverland and World Without Color interest me more. I think the only thing that could draw me into Wonderland is basing it around Barbara Hershey as the Queen of Hearts. Still, I want K&H focused on Once.
@slurpeez108 wrote:
@tabsicle wrote:
Maybe Pinocchio as a boy will become a friend for Henry?
Yes, I hope so. I posted BTS pics of the actors who play both characters hanging out together.
I’m sure he’ll get a memory wipe when he gets turned back to a boy, but I can’t stop picturing little boy Pinocchio waiting until nobody’s looking and then whispering to Henry, “This one time… in Phuket…” 😯
One reason I’m hoping she could turn out to be a bad guy is because I love Rumple and Regina so much. Cora is another terrific villain for me, and I enjoy Hook too. Villainhood might be Tamara’s only shot at being likable for me. Otherwise, I’ll be struggling not to hate her. The dark side is always so hard to resist… they have cookies…. they always have cookies, drat it!
It’s not impossible for a series to do a decent love triangle for me, but it’s really, really hard. First off, it’s much easier for me to accept a love triangle when neither half of it is in a hugely commited relationship. A character meets two other characters and has an attraction to both is a far cry from married character loves other character on the side. I’m more easygoing about Mulan/Phillip/Aurora’s weird dynamic for example than I felt about MM/David/Kathryn. Phillip seems to care for both, but he also seems to have had the decency to try to avoid exploiting Mulan’s feelings or doing something that would really hurt Aurora. Please don’t let that change! The problem of a split fanbase still remains though, but even in a clear relationship state some folks will prefer to ship characters AU.
ETA: @Naomi I think Tamara is someone Neal may have settled for because he didn’t think he would ever have a future with Emma. I’m not saying he doesn’t care for her but would he have even taken a second look at her if Emma had been in his life…whereas we know that he probably is going to be feeling for Emma even though he is with Tamara.
^THIS. So this!
To me that whole not stopping til you get what you want sounds like a shady character who will use whatever means necessary too. I’d actually find her more interesting if she were a villian who was pursuing Neal, either from attraction or because she thought it would get her something else she wanted. Otherwise it’s very much the Kathryn parallel again. That time in Snowing was so bad for me that I developed a strange softspot for Dr. Whale and Snow’s one-night stand. I still cackle gleefully any time it is brought up and makes David uncomfortable. Sad. But true.
My other big problem with this is that every stinking triangle on this show is one guy and two girls. It’s starting to feel sexist to me as if it’s just a woman’s place to have to fight other women for their man. Ugh.
Yeah, Snow gives very good advice. She gave Emma exactly the right advice on the phone.
If Emma had listened, she and Neal could have found a better way to reveal the truth to Henry so Emma wouldn’t have had a big traumatic a scene to go through with Henry. Neal would have done whatever he could to help make it easier for her and their son in that instance, and Henry wouldn’t have been witness to Emma trying to hide the connection from both him and Neal. Instead, just like when she trapped Hook at the top of the beanstalk, Emma didn’t allow herself to trust or be vulnerable. I completely understand why she reacted as she did, but her inability to trust cost her again.
Her mom’s continuing good advice and guidance would be a huge help. I’m very interested to see how Neal and the Charmings meet and interact.
For just a moment there I thought her guard went down when Neal told Gold to get out and she took a step toward Neal and said his name…I think with her familiarity with Neal it would be easy to fall back into step with him so I totally agree that she has a huge wall up…she’s terrified of getting hurt again…that’s why I didn’t really see the need for them to bring in Tamara…they have enough problems to overcome without a fiancee added to the mix.
Completely agree! She did seem unguarded in that moment. She feels so much that it would be quite easy to fall back into step. Even when she was taking her coat off in the bar while trying to maintain that she’s over him, Emma had the unguarded reveal of the necklace. It’s impossible for her to be on high alert at all times, and there’s so much potential for them to have this interesting back and forth.
I think they have enough issues that Tamara isn’t needed at all. But maybe the writers just figure their feelings are so big and that inadvertant ability to gravitate to one another is so natural that the writers couldn’t keep Swanfire apart for more than an episode without Tamara. LOL The thought makes me feel a little less irked about the impending triangle. I just need them to handle it better than the last one, since Neal and Emma aren’t under a curse.
