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@Phee wrote:
@RumplesGirl wrote:
Also, Cora is supposed to be the Miller’s Daughter..what is that dress?! Humble beginning, remember!
I thought that at first too, but if you look at the little bit of the set behind them, it looks like a humble dwelling, so I’m thinking perhaps he magic-ed her into that fancy dress, like he did with Cinderella, to give her a taste of what he could offer her. That could well be what the “seductiveness” in the scene is all about, not that he’s seducing her romantically.
She’s holding a long contract and quill pen, so the comparison to Cinderella really resonates with what I’m seeing.
Totally agree with not wanting any father/daughter connection between Rumple and Regina. That would have multiple levels of creepy for me. Definitely too far.
[adrotate group="5"]Always love Rumple episodes. Looking forward to having some more Rumbelle interaction. They both are so broken down at the moment. Also curious about Cora’s past history with Rumple.
Yeah, I don’t like football or awards shows, so there is literally nothing for me to watch during the hiatus periods. I just don’t watch tv during the hiatus. If I’m not really devoted to a series I can easily lose interest and walk away, as a result. Once has me hooked (since season one), but I understand how easy it is to lose track of a show when you develop a new pattern instead of casually watching that program.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
@Mich7 wrote:
@HappyEndings wrote:
As for the stuff people are saying about “Her”…if I’m not mistaken I think they said somewhere that “Her” was not important
That is what I thought and the license plate too. 😕
Yes I do believe they included the licence plate as well…that neither it nor “Her” were important.
Correct. All of that is just supposed to indicate that Greg is from the outside world.
I’ve never seen a direct quote stating that “Her” is unimportant from Jane Espenson. As far as I know people keep attributing that to the Barbara Barnett’s interpretation of her interview with Jane Espenson from In the Name of the Brother (as she discussed during her Tiny show and Manhattan preview). However, that was never said in the original interview. Here’s a rough transcription of the discussion of “Her” with Jane:
BB: The phone number on his cellphone “Her” is that just being enigmatic or might there be a significance to that?
JE: Oh it wasn’t a number. It’s, you know, the name he’s programmed into his phone, so clearly there is a woman in his life whom he coyly, affectionately clued into his phone as “Her”. Uh. And we don’t know who “Her” is. Um…
BB: Might we find out at some point?
JE: Oh I’m sure we’ll find out at some point. It’s gonna be… this show, you know, we’re doing very well. I think this show could run for ten more years. Eventually you’ll find out everything.
BB: Eventually.
JE: I think that’s the kind of thing you should expect to find out probably this season. So yeah.
Nothing there said that “Her” isn’t important. If the identity of “Her” is something we should be expecting to find out probably this season, she could be Tamara just as easily as a generic female from Greg’s life. Interesting that Jane didn’t just write “Her” off as nobody and coyly didn’t comment on who “Her” really is. Jane Espenson did go on to say something about not worrying about the license plate for now in the next few questions. Barbara Barnett didn’t sound like she was referring to a seperate discussion with Jane during the time she was talking about “Her” being unimportant during the Manhattan preview:
BB: Kelly asked us… she wants to know who the “Her is. Um. Okay. I can tell you that it’s not significant. It’s “Her”… it’s somebody that the uh… that is not… When I asked Jane about that she was like…. well it’s a female and it’s someone important to him. And I don’t think it’s like anymore…. I mean it’s like people were kinda focusing on the license plate, Greg’s license plate, and the point of that was to know that he was from out of town.
What I get out of that is that Barbara thinks it’s unimportant from the way Jane discussed it during their In the Name of the Brother interview (saying that it’s someone he coyly and affectionately clued into his phone). That doesn’t mean that Barbara is correct. It sounds like she completely missed Jane saying that we should expect it to be revealed. So without a direct quote from Jane Espenson I’m not taking someone else’s interpretation as absolute truth.
Hook doesn’t need someone to force him to attack David if David is in the way of Hook getting the one weapon that can kill Rumple.
Don’t forget that “Her” has seen Regina using magic in the video that Greg sent. The hints suggest that will have repercussions for SB. Greg is the threat that SB knows about, but he’s far from the only potential threat here. Letting him send videos of magic to an unknown character with a potentially sinister monicker on his phone then dropping it would be a huge narrative waste, imo. It’s possible, but the setup just doesn’t say throwaway character to me.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
@AngieBelle wrote:
I’m not thrilled with the ideal that Neal has a fiance, but I’m certainly not surprised. They aren’t going to make it too easy for Emma and Neal to end up back together. I’m still hoping they do in the long run though.
I rather hope Tamara is not a fairytale character. Everyone keeps trying to make everyone connected to a story- what’s wrong with having some characters who actually *are* from our world?
What you said made me think of something. If she is a FTL character (Tink/Tiger Lily, the Frog Princess, ect.) then where was she while Neal was with Emma? You would think that they would stick together, especially if she’s Tinkerbell to Neal’s Peter Pan. If they both came through (wherever they came through) together, they would probably stick together, being in a new land and everything.
That kinda sums up why I’m thinking she’s not going to be a friend of Bae’s from Neverland or anything like that. He was really alone when he and Emma met, and he didn’t want magical ties that would make him easier for Rumple to find or remind him of his past. I’m becoming more convinced that Tamara is “Her” and is using him to get what she really wants. She wants to go to SB because Greg has sent her that video rather than Nealfire being her target. She pretends to learn about magic during the Rumple crisis, initially feigns disbelief, and lets Neal and Emma protect her to get to town. While everyone worries about Greg, she’s the real danger.
It might just be my dislike for repeating the MM/David/Kathryn triangle speaking, but has anyone else wondered if Tamara might secretly turn out to be “Her”? Maybe she’s trying to find Storybrooke and magic to get something she wants (fits with her description) and has figured out that Nealfire has a magical FTL connection. Maybe Greg isn’t the only one actively chasing magic. It’d be a more interesting twist certainly than repeating my least favorite plot from season one. Or it could just be my utter loathing for this unneccessary complication kicking in. Either way just thought I’d throw the possibility out there.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
@Phee wrote:
@Midnight Dreary wrote:
I loved that Nealfire told Rumpel exactly what was on his mind. Rumpel needed to hear it. Poor Rumps was under the delusion that he could just solve all his problems by turning Bae back into a little boy again, but too much has happened. Neal is a completely different person now. My heart broke for both of them.
I liked how Neal referred to magic as “crap” multiple times. Poor dude has been through so much and tried to rid himself of it, but it keeps finding him. He’s got this old soul, weariness about him that I really like.I love that the second time NealFire said “crap” he did Rumple’s famous hand movements, the drama gestures. It was spot on and exactly the kind of thing that would be remembered by Neal
I was just about to post that! The imp flourish was spot on, and it made me grin like an idiot. MRJ is awesome with details like that.
Also finding it interesting that in a way the Seer may have manipulated Rumple into all this in order to get rid of her gift.
