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First off, the title of this thread may be my favorite I have ever seen on this site.
I thought it was strange that this pond we have never ever seen is suddenly a gateway to hell that was always there. There were plenty of people who have died on this show… do they all go on a boat ride across the lake? The writers are so bad at foreshadowing. I feel like they just come up with this stuff on a whim. There are so many things that could have been a gateway to hell. I would have LOVED to see Regina’s mausoleum with some sort of secret that opens up the path to hell. But NOOOOO. we get this duck pond we have never seen before.
I don’t read a ton of spoilers… was it guaranteed to be in this episode or is it something we can maybe see soon? Not that I think they will continue showing Ruby and Mulan. That was probably a one time deal…
I kinda wish this episode came first because I was mildly uninterested after the excitement of the first hour. It just seemed rather pointless. Nice to see old characters but it didn’t move the story forward at all. I wanted another hour of episode 508.
I think she had the ability to be a good sorceress like Merlin, however her need for revenge was so strong it turned her magic dark. She had the option to take a different path, just as Emma had the option of succumbing to Nimue and the darkness or fighting for the light. Perhaps what makes you worthy of drinking from the Grail is your strong will. We see Mortal!Merlin’s strong will to live over his friend. He pushed to fin the grail where his friend was content to say it was just a marage. Perhaps Nimue’s original intentions were pure – live forever with Merlin and be together forever, which is why she was deemed “worthy” to drink. Or perhaps, like Merlin, she spoke and acknowledged the God (s) before taking a drink, and that was what allowed her to drink – the respect she showed the God (s)
All together, I loved the twist, but I can’t quite figure out a good reason she could drink from the cup and Merlin’s friend could not.
THIS IS THE MOST EXCITING NEWS I HAVE HEARD ABOUT THIS SEASON SO FAR!!!!!
Pan was far and beyond my favorite villain in all OUAT history, and i really really really realllyyyyyyyyyyy hope he is around for more than one episode!
Have you noticed that on this show, ever new power is the most powerful power of all time? Now I have no doubt that Merlin is mighty, but let’s be real here… Blue was set up to be the oldest and most powerful wielder of light magic, but she is never even mentioned anymore. Emma took the spot of all powerful light magic, and now Merlin has followed suit. Also in season 1, The Dark One was set up to be the most powerful dark magic. Up until this season we haven’t really seen the Dark One as a real villain of the town. Rumple was there making deals and causing mischief but there was always another villian worse and scarier than the Dark One (Regina, Cora, Pan, Zelina). I just don’t know what to think anymore.
Arthurian Legend does say that Merlin was the most powerful Wizard to ever live, so keeping that in mind I think that he is not dead, but either in hiding or frozen in time again. In season 1, the dark curse froze time for 28 years, so it stands to reason that Merlin is frozen in time in Camelot and that is why they could not communicate with him and got his voicemail.
Rewatching the episode while I write my review. (it was just as bad the second time)
I have not read the other replies in this thread yet, so sorry if I touch on the same subjects.
Overall:
I had really high hopes for this episode because last weeks was so good. Last week brought back a mystical and magical feeling that I haven’t felt since Season 1. It was creative and the plot was well thought out and had magic that didn’t just serve a purpose for one second and then was gone forever. But this week was nothing more than a filler episode. It did not drive the plot forward at all until the last minute of the episode where Rumple pulled the sword from the stone. I would honestly rate this episode as much of a filler as Dreamy was in season 1.
Liked:
“Was that a kick my little munchkin?” – The Wizard of Oz lover inside of me squealed.
Okay, Zelina has NEVER been in my like section. I genuinely don’t like her character. But this episode, her scene with Emma may have been my favorite. She was sassy and sarcastic and cynical and it just worked this time
Although I don’t really understand Merida’s purpose on the show, I do like how she is portrayed. I like that she tries to fight Emma and that she explains to people that what she is doing isn’t her choice. We haven’t seen anyone fight their heart before. Amy is a seriously incredible actress though.
Really good casting on Brave Characters. Looked just like the Disney movie.
Lots of Belle. She is my favorite Disney Princess and it is nice to be reminded every once in a while that she is on this show.
Merlin’s “voicemail” (And Regina’s sass to compliment it!). I feel like he was not talking about Emma when he said “The dark one has found me”. There was a reason he didn’t use a name but a title. Who knows how long ago this message was from. This makes me excited to see more Merlin background!
Mixed:
Are we just going to ignore the question Merlin asked Emma at the end of the last episode?
Rumple pulling the sword from the stone this early on in the process. Okay, A&E, so you are trying to tell me that after centuries of being the dark one, turning people into snails and crushing them, manipulating people, and so on and so forth, it only takes 24 hours to make him the most pure hero in all of Storybrook?? I’m sorry, I don’t buy it. I could see this being a great arc if they didn’t rush it. If they took us more in depth through Rumple’s struggles and didnt throw it in our face and rush it along then I think I would have been giddy with excitement to see Rumple pull the sword from the stone. He would have earned it. But instead, they had him chicken out til the last second, then save Belle with a Magical McGuffin. AGAIN HE SAVED HIMSELF WITH MAGIC. It’s his biggest problem. He should have knocked Bearida (Bear Merida?) down with his cane. We all know he can do some serious damage with that. But no, magic again, and then he is suddenly considered a hero. Again, I like the idea of Rumple’s redemption but i wanted to see development and I just didn’t in one episode.
Disliked:
Okay, the opening could have simply fixed with ONE LITTLE line to say why Belle was in the dungeons with Charming, Hook, and Merlin. I just don’t understand how Belle went and not Snow.
HOW DID NO ONE NOTICE BELLE AND MERIDA WERE MISSING? The boys club was clearly so self involved with their heroics that they didn’t notice they were missing nearly half their group? And why didn’t Belle scream when Merida admitted she wanted to lure her away from her friends. This whole scene was just strange.
How did Rumple know Emma would go after Belle in order to make him a hero. He just immediately was like *Epiphany* She is going to kill you! Quick, let’s hide! Ugh.
Who wraps Onion Rings like that? I mean, honestly. Those things need to go in a box or they are a mess. Come on, Granny.
HOW DO YOU STILL TRUST ARTHUR?
Magical Mcguffin Mushroom does not burn. Because plot. ugh.
So if I can knock arrows out of the air with my own arrow, can I be a queen too?
Rumple saves himself with magic, again.
So i am absolutely NOT on board with this whole “Make Rumple a hero” arc. Not that I dont want to see Rumple as a hero, i think he deserves a redemption arc more than anyone else on the show. But taking the curse out of him and then saying he can be the greatest hero of all?? Okay I guess all those people he killed didn’t taint his heart at all. He was only the most feared villain for like 200 years. He isn’t earning it. I think he could earn it. But i’d like to see him struggle with the loss of his power that he loved so dearly. Rumple didn’t have his powers in Season 1 SB, but we still saw him as a trickster. Why is it different now?
That being said, why isn’t Emma going for Arthur? Are there different rules for the sword and who can wield it in SB? I would think she would go for the guy who legendarily pulled the sword from the stone, but i guess that would ruin Rumple’s “redemption” plot.
