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betsypaige24 wrote: It seems to me that giving Rumple iffy foresight is just for convenience’s sake
Oh, totally. 100% for convenience. It has to be or else we’d constantly be questioning why Rumple didn’t see “X” or didn’t know about “Y”
It’s not very good writing, frankly, lol, as it gives them an out to do whatever they want……….
[adrotate group="5"]betsypaige24 wrote: Wouldn’t he know, though, who “the one” is? Of course he didn’t see Belle coming, but that’s another issue.
@Storyteller was discussing this elsewhere, but we do know that Rumple’s foresight isn’t 100%. He knew it would Cora’s child and I think he assumed her first born..but obviously something went wrong. So when Cora says, “my firstborn?” and “she?” she looks ever so slightly nervous
I don’t remember that scene, but then again I try to forget most of TMD except for the phone call, lol
It seems to me that giving Rumple iffy foresight is just for convenience’s sake (sort of like how magic works differently in SB – TLK works for Snowing, not for Rumbelle, etc…). I mean, he got that “gift” from the Seer, so basically it should work all the time – unless the issue isn’t that he doesn’t have the gift but that he’s clueless as to how to interpret what he sees lol….
betsypaige24 wrote: Rumple teaching WW makes no sense at all since the only reason he wanted to teach Regina was because she was to cast the curse.
We know he wanted Cora’s first born. It’s possible that he tried to train Wicked first and then realized that she wasn’t the one.
betsypaige24 wrote: I also do find it hard to believe she’s just looking for love.
But if Cora gave her up, then she’s looking for parental love, which is a theme carried over from S3A
Wouldn’t he know, though, who “the one” is? Of course he didn’t see Belle coming, but that’s another issue.
True….although I can’t really say that someone who is as evil/wicked at the WW is someone looking for love. She’s blaming Regina for something that’s not her fault, so frankly the WW just comes off ………….really badly, let’s just say, lol
Whilst it is sad the Rumple’s curse was broken when he sacrificed himself, at the same time it set it up so that when it does get broken (perhaps by Belle’s TLK or Rumple’s love for Belle and Bae overriding the control of the dagger and thus the curse, since the Disney BatB curse was to teach the beast to love) it will be epic!
I hope so! I guess since it’s the B&B story, they can’t NOT have a moment like that. I’m not necessarily one for kisses breaking curses since I think working hard, changing -or, as you mentioned here and I’ve pleaded for, Gold’s love overcoming the dagger’s magic – is far more satisfying…….. HOWEVER, it would be so beautiful, sigh. I’d love to see Gold save Belle with a kiss….and I need to see a dance, lol. I could be wrong, but it seems like the BIG STUFF from the movie hasn’t happened yet. Perhaps they’re saving it for down the line?
Isn’t it possible that some of it is true (Zelena, etc.) but some is inaccurate and just speculation? I mean, this person would have to be a SERIOUS insider to have all those details…….
Rumple teaching WW makes no sense at all since the only reason he wanted to teach Regina was because she was to cast the curse.
I also do find it hard to believe she’s just looking for love. Adam/Eddy said this is all about envy – I suppose WW is envious that Cora abandoned her to whatever fate while for some reason preferring Regina. This isn’t someone who is looking for love…….and it’s been made pretty clear that she’s wicked evil
Is it possible to edit dates that something is posted? I think this was posted initially on IMD……can you post something with a past date to make it appear as if you have inside info?
No mistake there. Remember what we saw happening: Rumple stabbing Pan, Pan losing his juvenile charm turning back to old papa Malcolm, Rumple and Malcom disappearing with a shimmering light. If you have hope for Rumple, then there is as well “hope” for Malcolm and maybe even Pan. We saw Malcom/Pan maybe dying but for sure not dead. Thought for a while now, that it’s only sure, that he won’t return for this season, but options for him are there for later seasons. Malcolm/Pan is not dead dead like Cora yet. Not sure if they already have any plans, but sure A&E want to keep it open, and that is all that there is to that info at the moment. Can’t kill all spectacular villains on first try (hmm, did any villain on this show so far even die on first try?)
I’d be done with the show if they do that. He’s dead…….There’s no hope for Pan Daddy because he was basically the devil. Gold is not evil, by any means and that golden light should have been for him alone. I’d be absolutely disgusted if they “saved” that monster………I’m already disgusted that Gold’s curse didn’t break. Sacrificing his life wasn’t enough?
I don’t think 318 is Gold centric, I think it’s Regina-centric or maybe even WW centric again (though that would be weird, having one in 316 and then 318). For one thing, I don’t think he’s going to be overly involved in that Cora/Leo story……. I see no reason for him to be and it doesn’t fit the timeline (and he didn’t know Cora before TMD).
We really need to see him in present – and with Belle in some regard even if they aren’t “together”. No Rumbelle at all except for maybe 315 (for an entire half) would be pretty horrible
betsypaige24 wrote: Yeah, the shadow re-entered Gold as he gave him the dagger…. Maybe it’s the fact that he didn’t scream in pain? If he stabbed himself, which he did, he would have felt something. Maybe Belle thinks that because he didn’t express any pain that his act of sacrifice protected him and that he actually wasn’t killed, but sent somewhere?
Maybe she realizes that the golden light was something more than what it seemed.
That’s what I’m thinking…….I mean, when she cast the cloaking spell, there was golden light – and when she opened the sand dollar. Gold light/Gold magic must be his magic/their own magic….I don’t think that it will be something so obvious that anyone can see it; I think it will be something that only Belle would know…….
Yep, it was “no loopholes”. I loved that entire speech…….god, my baby was so heroic. I recall in Broken that he used a loophole when he promised Belle that he wouldn’t kill Regina…….this was it for him. He was doing what he had to do at the highest cost ……….sigh. I’m really upset that he sacrifices himself and his curse isn’t even broken in so doing…….that just seems so unfair.
