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I just don’t see a HEA for all the characters when Adam and Eddy specificially said that not all the characters would be getting happy endings………and I don’t think they were misleading us; I think they were very serious
Coconut in fire made the BF come back to life. (rolls eyes) They wrote themselves into a corner by saying dead is dead and then not sticking to it. However this is one case where I’m ok with it
The BF wasn’t dead, though, not really – she just had her shadow removed. Here, Eddy has come right out and said that Gold is dead. Yes, he then said he saw the dagger go into him, implying that he merely thinks he must be dead, assuming it, but his first words were to say “he’s dead”. Of course I don’t want Gold to be dead, but apparently he is and now they’re going to have to resurrect him in some way. I have no idea why they didn’t just go with the “his sacrifice saved him” bit which I had assumed. It’s like his sacrifice was no big deal to Adam/Eddy
[adrotate group="5"]betsypaige24 wrote: I think Adam and Eddy have written themselves into a corner. They have always said that “dead is dead” they do now how do you ever bring Gold back without turning your back on one of the tenets of the show?
I think as an immortal, Rumple is an exception to the rule “dead is dead.” His dark one persona may have finally “died” only for the mortal man to be resurrected just as the beast technically died in B&B in order for the prince to be revealed. Rumple was an immortal when he “died” and immortality might’ve shielded Rumple’s mortality when his dark one curse was “undone.” In other words, the magic protected his life but not itself.
betsypaige24 wrote: I think Belle and Bae would sacrifice their lives for Gold, but he would not accept this. He made the decision to sacrifice himself tote their sake; he was ready to die and he would never want to live if it came at the expense if either of their lives. He wouldn’t allow it.
Exactly, or his sacrifice would’ve been in vain. Rumple did not sacrifice himself to then see his loved ones die in his place. Rumple said that Baelfire was his happy ending, and he died to give him another chance at happiness. And though Belle might willingly trade her life for her beloved’s in a heart beat, Rumple would never be able to live with himself if she did this, so her sacrifice would ultimately be in vain, too. That is why I think all 3 will survive.
Its an interesting point you bring up, but I don’t think that’s it because Eddy didn’t say the DO died, he said Gold/Rumple died. Also, they said before and we saw this in TMD that even as an immortal, Gold could be killed (as opposed to dying naturally, which he wouldn’t). Since he can be killed, that’s apparently what happened.
As to your 2nd, well he died for both of them……and not to be a stickler (but I can’t help it, being a Rumbeller), his HE is with Bae in his life and being with Belle. Belle would give her life for his, but Gold simply would not accept it.
Unless Bobby wanted out of his contract or he asked for reduced workload (neither of which I believe), Gold can’t be “dead”, but I still hate what Eddy said. Of course, I hate most of the things he says.
As to who will live and die, I still think it’s Bae, Belle or Hook. There are many reasons for it not to be Belle or even Bae, less so for Hook, but in the end what it comes down to is that I don’t think they will ever kill off any of the other regulars.
I think Belle and Bae would sacrifice their lives for Gold, but he would not accept this. He made the decision to sacrifice himself tote their sake; he was ready to die and he would never want to live if it came at the expense if either of their lives. He wouldn’t allow it.
I think Adam and Eddy have written themselves into a corner. They have always said that “dead is dead” they do now how do you ever bring Gold back without turning your back on one of the tenets of the show?
It feels like they really killed Gold and Rumbelle at the same time…
betsypaige24 wrote: Would Adam and Eddy even be familiar with this story? I admit that it sounds like (even if it’s not a redo of Eurdyice/Orpheus) that Gold does go to some “other world” (and I don’t mean “land”) and the Underworld sounds as good as any (though of course, he should be in the Elysian Fields).
Oh, I’m sure Adam and Eddy are familiar with Greek mythology. We’ve already heard mention of chimeras, Medussa, Midas, and Jason’s golden fleece. I think that Gold may only be mostly dead, just as Philip was only mostly dead in 2×1. Plus, Rumple was immortal when he “died” so instead of a final death, it was just the undoing of his dark one-ness. This is where I think Aurora and Philip come into play. Techincally, Philip’s soul was removed from his body. Cora told Aurora that when a wraith consumes a soul, it travels to “another realm.” In 3×1, Aurora alluded to the fact that she had learned to travel other worlds while asleep, which is a consequence of being put under the sleeping curse. It’s possible that Aurora will advise Belle how to save Rumple. And we know that Aurora was able to save Philip and both survived, since we saw them both in 3×1.
Good point about the other mythological references. I’m still very nervous……and I really hate this
Well to be fair Adam & Eddy have been pulling Greek Mythology into Once Upon A Time Tales so it’s possible we could see Hades, etc
Well I meant that I hate the death, I hate worrying about Belle, I hate Eddy saying Gold is dead (unless he means the DO, but who knows ? I have to remember that Eddy says ridiculous things most of the time)…….
It’s sad that so many people have to worry about their favorite character
betsypaige24 wrote: Would Adam and Eddy even be familiar with this story? I admit that it sounds like (even if it’s not a redo of Eurdyice/Orpheus) that Gold does go to some “other world” (and I don’t mean “land”) and the Underworld sounds as good as any (though of course, he should be in the Elysian Fields).
Oh, I’m sure Adam and Eddy are familiar with Greek mythology. We’ve already heard mention of chimeras, Medussa, Midas, and Jason’s golden fleece. I think that Gold may only be mostly dead, just as Philip was only mostly dead in 2×1. Plus, Rumple was immortal when he “died” so instead of a final death, it was just the undoing of his dark one-ness. This is where I think Aurora and Philip come into play. Techincally, Philip’s soul was removed from his body. Cora told Aurora that when a wraith consumes a soul, it travels to “another realm.” In 3×1, Aurora alluded to the fact that she had learned to travel other worlds while asleep, which is a consequence of being put under the sleeping curse. It’s possible that Aurora will advise Belle how to save Rumple. And we know that Aurora was able to save Philip and both survived, since we saw them both in 3×1.
Good point about the other mythological references.
I’m still very nervous……and I really hate this
betsypaige24 wrote: I’m love Greek mythology, but I’m not familiar with this story; can you fill me in?
Oh sure. Briefly: Orpheus and Eurydice are in love and once day Eurydice is bitten by a viper and dies. Orpheus decides to win her back and traveling down to the underworld–Hades–and and played his lyre for Hades and Persephone (btw: B and the B is based on Hades and Persephone). The music was so sad that Hades made Orpheus a deal: to allow Eurydice to return with him to earth on one condition: he should walk in front of her and not look back until they both had reached the upper world. He set off with Eurydice following, and, in his anxiety, as soon as he reached the upper world, he turned to look at her, forgetting that both needed to be in the upper world, and she vanished for the second time, but now forever. However a successful tale would have Belle bring Rumple back without failing. It wouldn’t be music, but it might be something else Belle is good at–storytelling. If she can tell Hades the right story, he would release Rumple. In other words, Belle wouldn’t die.
Oh wow, how tragic…….but then aren’t most myths? Thank you!
Would Adam and Eddy even be familiar with this story? I admit that it sounds like (even if it’s not a redo of Eurdyice/Orpheus) that Gold does go to some “other world” (and I don’t mean “land”) and the Underworld sounds as good as any (though of course, he should be in the Elysian Fields).
Belle would have to make a deal with someone…….Hades? I just can’t see Adam/Eddy writing such a complicated, deep storyline
I’ve calmed down, but goodness I’m still worried…………and I hate Eddy still calling him the DO after his sacrifice. Then again, Eddy thinks he’s a real villain, a bad man, so I’m not surprised
betsypaige24 wrote: All I know is that Eddy said he’s dead
Actually this fits my headcanon with how I think the season of Rumbelle plays out. He’s in Hades and Belle has to rescue him in a gender swapped tale of Eurydice and Orpheus. (and succeeds this time)
Dead is dead, which means he shouldn’t be saved; it would be wrong to back track on that. I’m love Greek mythology, but I’m not familiar with this story; can you fill me in?
IF your theory is correct, how would Belle even know how to save him? Would his ghost appear to her? How on earth would she find her way to the Underworld? Maybe she does sacrifice herself……………..I want to cry, but I’ll try not to.
Adam said he hopes we’ll enjoy her story……her death would not be enjoyable. Eddy said that Rumbelle would be explored, in “whatever state that’s in”……
I’m all mixed up.
Happy Ending, don’t get on my case for talking about this……I didn’t bring this spoiler into the thread
All I know is that Eddy said he’s dead,………he came right out and said that Gold is dead. If Belle sacrifices herself to save him, I’m going to …….ah, use your imagination. If that has to happen, damn, that’s CRUEL…..He would have sacrificed himself to save Belle and Bae and that wouldn’t be enough to save him? Emilie’s photo there scares me……
Bobby, when he’s filming, is probably filming with very few people…..I mean, we haven’t read any casting spoilers for characters he might be interacting with. Does this mean Gold has been sent to some Netherworld? Adam did say they’d be in the same world for an extended period, which means they aren’t in the same world initially. How on earth would Belle find him or how on earth would he find his way back? If he’s redeemed, why has he been sent someplace where his loved ones can’t find him?
Is Rumplestiltskin really dead on Once Upon a Time? —Tamryn He’s definitely dead,” executive producer Edward Kitsis says. But I mean, come on, this is a show about magic! “He went into that knife, it looked like death to me, but he’s the Dark One,” he adds. Sounds like he’s not dead just yet.
I wonder if someone has to sacrifice their life to bring back Rumple? http://www.tvguide.com/News/Mega-Buzz-Scandal-HIMYM-OUAT-Spoilers-1076429.aspx
Um, dead is dead…….so if he’s dead, they shouldn’t bring him back……..Oh and this pisses me off because he shouldn’t be the DO know; that should have broken his curse.
UGH
Also, why is there a photo of Emilie in this article when she’s not even mentioned? Oh god……….bad bad feeling
RumplesGirl wrote: I have no interest in speculating on this anymore. It’s exhausting and every person is going to believe something different based on how they interpret the show. But this is my question: how many of you will stop watching if it is your favorite character/second favorite character? (don’t cheat and come back with “but RG!! It won’t be my favorite character!!”) Everyone knows my favorite character is officially out of the running but my second favorite character is getting a lot of “it’s him” and I find myself conflicted. I always imagine I was here for the long haul. And I probably will be. But I will be profoundly disappointed.
In case anyone missed this. I really want to know. I want to try and gauge how badly this is going to affect ratings
I think Belle dying would have an enormous impact on ratings because you’d lose her fanbase and the huge Rumbelle fanbase – well, not all, but a LOT. Parents with young children (not that I think the show should cater to them) would probably be extremely upset at a VERY popular “princess” (because I don’t think Belle technically is one) being killed and might not watch.
Personally, I would quit (as mentioned above) for many reasons, but primarily because I would have no hope anymore, no joy. I couldn’t ever watch the show again. I’ m struggling already now……Belle dying would be just a nightmare.
I’ m sure the ratings will dip no matter who is killed, but of course there won’t necessarily be a way of knowing what is effecting ratings; there could be many reasons why people tune out………and we can’t judge by the premiere since 3A premiere did great and after that, it was basically downhill.
