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betsypaige24 wrote: I think that the NL arc (which I liked in general) was dark and stuffy, sort of claustrophobic, and I can see how it wouldn’t have been for everyone. There was not enough SB at all (making us wait until 7? Not a good idea as it turned out. How come they couldn’t have checked in earlier?), and way WAY too much Snowing, especially in The New Neverland. Rumbelle, IMO, was strengthened enormously over the course of the 11 episodes, BUT there was not enough of them and their reunion was way too short. Hook? There WAS a lot of him – of course he’s on his old stomping grounds, so it’s understandable – but still……..and ABC’s promotion of them, of CS, just….god, enough.
I agree. RumBellers got the short end of the stick in both S2 and S3 so far. We want to see RumBelle together not constantly separated for one reason or another. I disliked Snow immensely in Ariel- She was too Mary-Sueish in flashback and her confession and reasons for wanting another baby were so insensitive towards Emma that it was almost out of character for Snow to be THAT selfish. Also, Charming’s dreamshade storyline didn’t really go anywhere, it was like Snow’s dark heart storyline, it was hyped up then was extremely anticlimactic. It was inevitable that Hook would get more screentime since it was Neverland, however I agree about the overpublicity of him. It was great if he was your favourite character, but he’s certainly not mine, and the overexposure actually turned me off of him even more. As for CaptainSwan, well….. CaptainSwan is a relationship that has major issues that shouldn’t be downplayed or downright ignored just because Hook is attractive.
Rumbellers are always going to get the short end of the stick, unfortunately; I think they made Emilie a regular to please the fans. A part of me must think they like them in some way because their storylines are beautiful, but mostly I think Rumbelle is a nuisance to them. I cry thinking about that because what Bobby and Emilie have together is extraordinary and it’s being wasted. I get that because they don’t have a child, like the Charmings, that their angst will be centered on them (with the Charmings, their angst is centered on Emma and Henry), but goodness, I honestly thought that after NL, Rumbelle would be together and we’d see a focus on their relationship. I think I need to realize that Rumbelle is low man on the totem pole – Adam and Eddy worship the Charmings and they’re already going to shove Regina and Hood in our faces (how stupidly clumsy can you be, telling us outright they are TL and not letting it develop organically?)… Then, of course, there’s the triangle. I wish Adam would STOP telling us to have hope or keep faith…and his “I hope Rumbellers enjoy what we have in store for them” comment that came with the most recent spoilers for them is ridiculous. Really? Why would we enjoy whatever story you have? They won’t be on screen together, it’s another separation and their reunion will be treated like something that the writers have to endure.
The Charming poisoning story existed for one reason only – so that Hook could get on the good side of the Charmings and Emma. His ridiculously quick redemption “arc” is happening only so that Emma might be attracted to him; it’s completely unbelievable, IMO. Same with Regina – neither one has shown an ounce of remorse for their past actions. I am so angry at Adam and Eddy for denying Belle an opportunity to confront both of them……and given how comfortable she looked around Regina in the last episode, we know this is never going to happen.
RG, I just find that they have a completely imbalanced show. I’m biased as a Rumbeller, but seriously, they were given a gift on a silver platter and they tried to return to sender. This is a couple that should be one of the greatest in TV history; the fanbase literally exploded into being overnight. Instead of stoking the buzz, what ONCE has done is smothered it, and done all they could to remove all the joy from being a shipper.
It’s fine that they love Snowing, but it’s way too much. I’m sure that they are telling the story they want to tell, but they also have to realize what’s working and what’s not. After last season, ABC sat down with them to discuss not just fan dissatisfaction (you can’t ignore that), but also creative issues. They worked to try and fix some of those things – not leaping from world to world to world (they didn’t want people to need timelines/maps, lol), more character development, et….. and some of it worked, but a lot of it didn’t. Once Neal was in NL and there was no present FTL, there was no need to completely ignore SB. That is something that became a problem whether they acknowledged it or not. Another issue? Emilie is VERY popular and despite the fact that I know the boys adore her personally, she gets VERY little screen time. She was barely on in S2 and hardly was on in the first half of S3. Many people miss Belle, who is extremely popular as well. From episode 11 through the middle of the S2 finale, no Belle. Yeah, not everyone loves her, but then again, you can’t find any character who is universally loved by everyone. She’s beloved and popular and I really think that her lack of air time IS an issue. Something else that’s an issue? How the Charmings ignore her, how everyone ignores her……..except Gold and now Archie.
The reason why nothing is guaranteed beyond S4 is because whatever show Adam and Eddy are writing is a show that fewer people want to see. I’m not asking them to change their vision, but if they want to stay on the air, they need to be more flexible……When almost every segment of the fanbase is unhappy, there’s something wrong…..and I DO think that pissing off Rumbelle fans by not giving them storylines together is a mistake they are paying the price for even now. I’m not asking for my babies to become the central couple (though I’d love that, lol), but it’s not asking for a lot to give them storylines together, so they can work as a team…..so they can face obstacles together. It’s not asking a lot for wanting less tragedy and a little more happiness.
If Adam and Eddy want this show to stay on the air, they can’t just leave it status quo………
[adrotate group="5"]Rumple’s story is far from over Marty. RumBelle will get there happy ending eventually. To end Rumple’s story where it is at the moment is basically depressing. The show is supposed to be about hope. If Rumple’s story ends now then all of Rumple’s character development would of been pointless because he would’ve been screwed anyway and it goes against what the show is about. “Villains don’t get happy endings” whilst that is true, Rumple is not a villain, he’s a hero, and the show so far has been charting his journey from villain to hero. Rumple has redeemed himself but maintaining that redemption is the next step in his story.
I think, actually, his story is just beginning. PART of his story is over – that journey that he needed to take to get back to himself, his best self……no actually, BETTER than his best ever self. However, you’re exactly right – imagine if he’s dead now or if he dies later on? What exactly was the point? Redemption via death, IMO, is a cop out – it’s the sort of shock you want to give viewers if you’re a hack writer. Then, the shock is over and what else is there? What about the rest of his life? A life where he could do so many positive things to help people – and also, a life where he could finally be truly happy? Like you said, he’s a hero and he’s been redeemed – not just via this glorious sacrificial act, but in how he fought and struggled valiantly against the curse, fought and struggled to be a better man. It was Gold’s efforts that transformed him and that ultimately allowed him to break his own curse.
Now not only is maintaining that redemption an ongoing part of his story, now what about all the ramifications of his breaking the curse? He’s now a mortal – that brings with it very specific issues, ESPECIALLY as relates to Belle and his future. I’ve mentioned this before, but here are some concerns he might have that the show NEEDS to deal with:
1) His physical condition. Is his heart in good working order? How much stress have the years taken on him?
2) His physical age. He’s 20 plus years older than Belle; is he concerned about being an aging father? There’s a very good chance he will die well before Belle
These are issues that could give Rumbelle some amazing story; Bobby and Emilie would KILL it. There’s just NO way these two can be separated again past S3; if the writers do that in S4, I think they WILL lose most Rumbellers who are barely hanging on now. It’s time that they start with the rest of their lives. Get them engaged……and frankly, I don’t see why they can’t get married before the end of their show (which would be completely cliched). There’s still so many interesting things that could happen to them and with them that wouldn’t quite give them their HEA yet. For one thing, what happens if Gold is chronically ill? What happens if Belle is ill? What happens if she has a difficult pregnancy? A miscarriage? The baby is premature, the baby is sick. Real life is far more dramatic than fiction…and in Bobby and Emilie’s hands, god, how great would any of these stories be?
These are very real issues and no, I’m not asking ONCE to be a disease of the week show, but people fall in love with shows generally because of characters and character based stories. I’m not asking the show to drop the fantasy aspect of it, but I’m expecting them to deal with the very real issues that human beings face.
Oh and as for Gold saying he’s “ready”, I don’t see it that way at all. For one thing, I don’t think he could ever really be ready to leave his son and especially Belle. He accepted that Bae could be happy without him because parents have to let go of their children all the time….and I think that knowing Bae knew that he loved him, knowing that Bae loved him, was almost enough. That’s why he was able to tell Bae that he could be happy..without him. With Belle, it’s different. His personal happiness was all with her, he desperately wanted a future with her, a family; they had been deprived of precious time with each other and that killed him, as much as the dagger was killing him. It’s why he gazed at her as the last thing he wanted to see before he faced his father. I can’t even imagine what was going through his mind, the last hours that they had spent together, as one – intimately joined forever….and now it was truly coming to an end. He knew Belle could never have her happy ending without him, hence he couldn’t promise her happiness.
To me, that moment when he thrusts the dagger into his father’s back, with every ounce of energy he has, crying out “I’m ready!” is incredible; it’s a truly empowering moment for Gold. He’s taking control of his life, his destiny; it’s a bold act, a loving, sacrificial act – and that is when the gold light first appears. It’s his willingness to sacrifice his life for everything that has ever meant anything to him that ultimately breaks the curse. More than that, though, it was his journey to get to this point that is so beautiful and rewarding in a tragic way,
One more thing: I don’t agree that he tried to cut off his hand; he specifically didn’t do that. I’ve said this before, but he has made his decision and come to terms with it. Gold acts with the firmness and decisiveness of one who knows he is doing the right thing. He’s so incredibly fierce, and protective of his Belle and Bae, and he’s ready to pay the price in doing the only thing that can be done. Even if he chose to cut off his hand and reattach it without the cuff, even if he chose magic to battle Pan, that wouldn’t have been the end of things. Gold knew that he and his father would continue to battle……and that Belle and Bae would still likely suffer and still likely die (and there is no return from death). The only way to put an end to it, to ensure that no harm comes to them, is for him to kill Pan – and to die himself.
They must have known they were going to NL, so I believe ONCE just basically stopped renting the Pink House….and then subsequently it was sold.
When Gold eventually makes his way back to SB, they HAVE to do something. I did think of Belle’s apartment, but I’m sure there’s no set for that either. This actually annoys me, that they have no set for either or apartment or his (their) house. S4 Rumbelle (rolling my eyes as I assumme they will be together – I can’t imagine them apart again) needs to have a place outside of the shop. That’s a place of business, not a home. Plus, I doubt Gold would want to spend that much time there; how much business does he really do? It was pretty evident in The New Neverland that he was very happy to close up shop early and spend all his time shagging with Belle
Price, I actually would kind of love to see Rumbelle buy a house together even though I LOVED that PH. The glimpses that we got in the Croc were wonderful – Belle had brought light into it, the way she brought light into the Dark Castle. There were roses, and unbelievably beautiful kitchen…..and the bedrooms, sigh.
betsypaige24 wrote: IMO, he truly LOVES being in love and he shows that in so many ways, especially every day, in how he treats Belle: with respect and with kindness. He shows how much he loves her in just loving her, needing her, touching her. When he gets her a gift, it’s not some boring candy and flowers that could be anyone’s gift to anyone, it’s a library. He gifted her keys to a new life, to adventure (she couldn’t leave thanks to the memory curse, but she could travel the world via books)…..he knows her SO well.
Yup. Also, I think we have to consider Rumple’s fear which is that someday Belle would leave him. That’s what happens to him, people leave. They walk out and abandon him. Jumping into bed (in a no sleeping way) with Belle would be painful for him because he has never fully accepted (until recently) that she wasn’t going anywhere. She might say she’s going to stay but he’s been burnt before. It’s hard for him (so so so so hard) to accept that someone wants him. (hugs her Rumple) Saw this confession this morning:
Yes, all true…Even though I had serious issues with how little Belle was used in NL, the small amount of Rumbelle we got was still staggeringly important because of Gold’s epiphany. He not only realized how badly he wanted to be with her and have a future (not that he didn’t want it before, but now he was going to fight for his own survival so he could have this), but he realized truly that Belle would never leave him. I think he knew for sure in the Outsider that she truly loved him and stopped questioning WHY after that (he said in the phone call scene that she “really really loved” him), but it was in Ariel, in NL, that Gold stopped thinking of Belle has potentially leaving him.
I saw that confession………gorgeous. Belle seeing the man that Rumple truly was, that he wanted to be again but had no hope (before her) of being, touched my heart because it touched his. He needed desperately to believe that someone actually cared for him for who he was, that he was worthy of being loved, that he was not a beast. I think the reason he was so upset when Gaston interrupted was because Belle was telling him that he wasn’t a monster, just a man, and he wanted that conversastion to continue. His heart and soul needed this nourishment that Belle was providing. In the forest, in Lacey, her hug was the first genuine affection and touch he’d had in centuries (Cora, IMO, was different; however sexual they were, she was not a warm or caring person).
What I feel also that Rumple gave back to Belle was a sense of understanding and appreciating who she was: a woman who didn’t just want to be a wife and live an ordinary life. He respected and admired her intelligence, spirit, bravery, sense of adventure, compassion, kindness, etc… He wanted her to, ultimately, live her life as she needed to live it – even if that was without him.
Yes, it’s definitely up to interpretation and I actually really don’t care whether they have or haven’t done the deed and since we’ll never get a “Rumbelle Bedroom Special” fans can only speculate and that’s okay. However, I – and probably most Rumbellers – would appreciate if they showed more “emotionally intimate” moments on screen, if you know what I mean. It doesn’t have to be a big scene like in the library in Crocodile but is a small one now and then (and maybe not only every 5-10 episodes) like in Gold’s shop in The New Neverland really too much to ask?
I would LOVE that as a DVD featurett, lol – Rumbelle Bedroom Special, lol.
I agree with this except I’ll add that I’m tired of all of their scenes taking place in Gold’s shop. The Pink House was sold and they don’t have a set for Gold’s shop built….They really need to, frankly. The shop is not the place for intimate moments; I want to see some domestic Rumbelle, like we get with Snowing. The idea that they would have “done it” in the shop (both pre and post tie scene) is silly because really? In that small bed? In a cold, business like setting (I know it’s in the back, but still)? Why would they NOT go to his house, to their home, to a big, comfy bed?
Anyway, I feel like Adam and Eddy don’t care about Rumbelle, so we get the bare minimum. Their reunions are aborted, squeezed in and (even though beautifully done) rushed; I can’t stand being told by people on Tumblr that fans who want more for Rumbelle are wrong and ungrateful. Yeah, I get that it’s Adam and Eddy’s show, but Rumbelle is by far the most popular ship and it’s just GORGEOUS, it’s an exquisitely beautiful love story (and Bobby/Emilie have RARE chemistry). How do you not take advantage of this?
LOL I don’t think the issue of Rumbelle being intimate will come up anymore because ONCE might as well have flashed a neon sign saying they did it – and MORE than once……a LOT.
I read that essay (the Rumbelle stuff) again last night, lol – hilarious and true!
I think Adam and Eddy probably need to start plotting the end of their show before they really want to because I don’t think they’d want this show to end without them being able to finish their stories or give HEA to most/all of their characters.
Granted, I believe ONCE still has been the top rated scripted show on Sundays, but as ratings have gone down, it’s not a good thing…….. The worst sign is that fans knew that episode 11 would be the winter finale and they still stayed away.
I think that the NL arc (which I liked in general) was dark and stuffy, sort of claustrophobic, and I can see how it wouldn’t have been for everyone. There was not enough SB at all (making us wait until 7? Not a good idea as it turned out. How come they couldn’t have checked in earlier?), and way WAY too much Snowing, especially in The New Neverland. Rumbelle, IMO, was strengthened enormously over the course of the 11 episodes, BUT there was not enough of them and their reunion was way too short. Hook? There WAS a lot of him – of course he’s on his old stomping grounds, so it’s understandable – but still……..and ABC’s promotion of them, of CS, just….god, enough.
I think S4 is a given and it helps that ABC likes the show, but it’s still a business. I DO think that if ONCE struggles in S4, that ABC would likely make ONCE a mid-season replacement with, say a 13 episosde order, in S5 -thereby giving Adam/Eddy a chance to wrap up the show. I don’t think ABC would just cancel it outright.
It’s sad, but when watching the Skin Deep commentary, you get the idea that this show had a really long run in it….Jane seemed to think that for sure. Apparently 7 seasons is the goal when starting a new show, but that’s not ever going to happen with ONCE.. They’re struggling just to make it through 3 and 4.
PriceofMagic wrote: They’d just reunited after 30 years.
Exactly. And he was definitely “comforting” her if that’s what you call it today. Sorry, but I can’t imagine anyone wearing that kind of night gown and parading around in it without a robe like Belle did in Croc if one’s significant other hasn’t seen them wearing less…
See I think anything before 310 was left vague for fan interpretation. For me, Rumple would have hesitated greatly before sleeping with Belle after the curse lifted. Sometimes he seems like an old fashioned kind of guy. We’d want to make sure they were in a good place relationship wise before they took it to the next level, even if they had been apart for 30 years.
I agree that it was left open to fan interpretation, which is why Jane said that whether they’d “done it” (not her words) or not was not established as canon. Personally, that answer always annoyed me; why not make it clear one way or the other? In any case, I don’t think there’s a right or wrong answer. I could see them “sleeping together” in THAT way around the Croc time, except to me they made it clear that they weren’t, that Gold was in bed simply to comfort Belle (because then why else would he basically be fully dressed). As such, although I can easily imagine them wanting to make love immediately upon the curse breaking, I’m guessing they just chose to be all snuggly and kissy, lol. I love how comfortable Belle is walking around in that nighty, lol, but that doesn’t surprise me; let’s face it, she was pretty darn forward back in FTL, far more forward than women were back then, and my head canon is that she always fantasized about him seeing her like that (and vice versa, lol).
I would have thought that they would have made love for sure by the time of the Outsider, if not that night he called her to the shop than for sure after the Jolly Roger scene, before the car scene, but since Emilie didn’t think (as of a few months ago) that they had “done it (I wonder how often she and Bobby have talked about this), I’m going with the supposition that these two were taking it REALLY slowly, lol. Given how much they need to touch each other, it’s amazing to me if they WERE able to keep themselves from jumping into bed, lol.
Even though Gold was a VERY modern man in FTL days (he encouraged Belle’s intelligence, curiosity, desire for adventure, love of learning, etc… – and she a modern woman, which to me shows how well they were matched), I agree that he does have this old-fashioned, gentlemanly side to him when it comes to romance. IMO, he truly LOVES being in love and he shows that in so many ways, especially every day, in how he treats Belle: with respect and with kindness. He shows how much he loves her in just loving her, needing her, touching her. When he gets her a gift, it’s not some boring candy and flowers that could be anyone’s gift to anyone, it’s a library. He gifted her keys to a new life, to adventure (she couldn’t leave thanks to the memory curse, but she could travel the world via books)…..he knows her SO well.
LOL the funny thing with these two in bed is that I really think they could do it every day for the rest of their lives and NEVER get bored. Not only do they have that insane love and passion for each other, but you just sense that they actually LOVE making love and/or having sex (big difference). I can see them at times going slow, being tender, and at others just being animals because they can’t help themselves!
betsypaige24 wrote: LOL I didn’t even think it was that subtle, lol. I mean, it wasn’t clunky like with Snowing, but they made it perfectly clear with that tie scene and then Gold in the diner that not only did they make love, but they had the best sex EVER…..a LOT. ”Perfect..” “Thank you” . “You’re welcome”. Someone did GOOD that night, lol.
Lol, that’s what I mean about the subtleness of that scene. RumBelle have such great chemistry that everyone knows what they got up to. Charming were practically spelling out what they planned to do.
Oh, lol – duh! Yeah, The Charmings practically had to draw pictures for everyone……Everyone can just tell that Rumbelle wants to do THAT all the time, lol. The one time in ages that I liked the Charmings was when Gold brought them the potion in the diner. It was rather obvious what he had been up to and I think they knew it. Ah my baby, he didn’t even take time to brush his hair……nor did he bother hiding how breathless he was. He might as well have been wearing a billboard, lol
RG, I remember that – that was wonderful, lol. I’m in the mood to read that again!
I think RumBelle did share a bed on a regular basis in The Crocodile but hadn’t slept together at that point. Mainly because of their own awkwardness around each other. They’d just reunited after 30 years and had parted on bad terms so I could see them not feeling comfortable about being that intimate with each other yet. Throughout season 2 RumBelle have been shown to be sleeping in the same bed separately so I think at that stage they were happy to just be able to hold each other in their arms without throwing sex into the mix. I agree that Rumple didn’t sleep with Lacey. Whilst he knew he had to keep her interested enough so that she wouldn’t go looking elsewhere, she wasn’t Belle. I think Milah’s infidelity scarred Rumple enough that, besides feeling unlovable at times, he would NEVER cheat on Belle. Sleeping with Lacey would’ve felt akin to cheating on Belle. I think RumBelle may have slept together once Belle got her memory back. As far as they knew they were going to die, they were both emotional so why not? They definitely slept together IMO once Rumple returned from Neverland, I loved how subtle the scene was, it said so much with just a change of clothes and smirking.
I agree with everything you said. Additionally, in the Rumpled Lace scene from 2nd star, when Gold places the necklace on Lacey’s neck, he (IMO) purposely does not turn her around (as he actually did in Belle’s dream in the Croc, when he gave her the necklace). With LaceBelle facing forward, he could imagine and wish and hope this were Belle; his hands hover over her and then he places them on her shoulders, but for me there is no doubt that Gold is dreaming of Belle. This person may look like Belle, have her gorgeous body, but she’s not….When he looks into her eyes, it’s cool, shallow, Lacey, not warm, kind, compassionate Belle. Skin Deep didn’t just refer to Belle falling in love with a “beast”, seeing below the surface, IMO it easily could have referred to his falling in love with her. As stunning as she is, Rumple fell in love with Belle for her inner beauty, her kindness, bravery, intelligence, compassion, spirit, etc…….not for her looks.
See, that last point bothers me about the shop reunion (which I LOVED). It’s clear they would have made love, so why not show us that, show us them going into the back at least, give us an indication?
LOL I didn’t even think it was that subtle, lol. I mean, it wasn’t clunky like with Snowing, but they made it perfectly clear with that tie scene and then Gold in the diner that not only did they make love, but they had the best sex EVER…..a LOT. “Perfect..” “Thank you” . “You’re welcome”. Someone did GOOD that night, lol.
God this scene hurts so much!
Gold’s emotion generally overcomes his logic, which I love about him. As desperate as he is in this scene, panicky (and who can blame him?) because he doesn’t have much time to save Belle and Bae’s lives, he is STILL able to gather himself in order to do what he needs to do.By the time we see him outside, he has made his decision and come to terms with it. Gold acts with the firmness and decisiveness of one who knows he is doing the right thing. I LOVE that moment when he thrusts the dagger into his father’s back, with every ounce of energy he has, crying out “I’m ready!”. It’s just such a bold act, a loving, sacrificial act – and that is when the gold light first appears. It’s his willingness to sacrifice his life for everything that has ever meant anything to him that ultimately breaks the curse. More than that, though, it was his journey to get to this point that is so beautiful and rewarding in a tragic way
Here, though, here is the moment of truth. Even if he chooses to cut off his hand and reattach it without the cuff, even if he chooses magic to battle Pan, Gold knows that won’t be the end of things. He and his father will continue to battle……yes, but Belle and Bae will still likely suffer and still likely die (and there is no return from death). The only way to put an end to it, to ensure that no harm comes to them, is for him to kill Pan – and to die himself.
It’s amazing to me that Gold is able, in a few moments, to decide that YES, he will save Belle and Bae even if it means his own death. Think about how suddenly this all happened. Just two days ago, he thought Pan was trapped forever and he had a happy future with Belle and Bae. Then Pan did the old switcharoo, and really there wasn’t that much time between then and the sacrifice. So in essence, Gold still thought he had a future up until maybe half hour or so before his last scene. Then, he had to make the ultimate decision. My baby had such little time to process the fact of his own death……it’s heartbreaking. Everything happened so quickly – even the goodbyes.betsypaige24 wrote: I know my theory is heartbreaking, sigh, but what isn’t heartbreaking when it comes to Rumbelle? What Belle wouldn’t have given to have protected his chest from the dagger the way she’s almost protecting it here, feeling his heart beat strongly beneath hers, feeling the warmth of his body beneath her fingers and the shirt.The kiss ,the way they are clinging to each other’s necks……..I can’t look at this scene the same since the winter finale
That’s why I like your theory the best. Rumbelle is just ANGST all the time and so the clothing is just more “here, let us kill you all with things”
Yep……..Maybe the writers are more involved than we think or the costume designers more into the writing because people noticed that in S2, Gold wore darker colors to indicate a that he was more serious (Belle in danger/Belle memory loss) than in S1 (where he wore his mask and also lots of bright colors). This makes sense because when Belle returned early in the season, we saw him wear a gray (not dark) suit with a purple shirt…..and the suit/tie/hanky combos we see himk in post-NL return are navy (not black) with a blues, reds, etc.. In other words, brighter, happier colors………not solemn at all.
Yep, the Outsider episode all happened on the same day. Many people thought Rumbelle made love that night, before she went to the library in the morning, because she was still wearing the same clothes. However, as recently as a couple of months ago, Emilie said that she didn’t think Rumbelle had ever “done it” and around the same time, Jane said it hadn’t been established (or not) as canon whether they’d ever “done it”. I firmly believe they never did it in the Croc even though many think they did. I think Belle looked for him in bed because he was there comforting her; had they actually slept together, there’s no way Gold would have gotten fully dressed in a suit and tie just to go to his “lab”. I also don’t think they did it when Belle was “Lacey”. Eddy said they kissed a lot (off screen – everything happens off screen for them, but in this case, I’m ok with it, lol) – and that’s as far as I think Gold would ever have gone with her.
In any case, in the day and a half that Gold was back in SB, he and Belle clearly made up for it with LOTS and lots and lots of sex, lol: in the shop before the tie scene, post-tie scene, the morning before they went to the diner, probably after the diner……though maybe not, lol. I think they were going back to the pink house for some of that when they were interrupted….Ok, then after the town line scene, perhaps before the cemetary scene……I would say post-cemetary scene, but that’s just so odd because they go to Gold’s shop right then……..and then when they emerge it’s daylight?
The change of clothing made no sense, lol
1) Dock clothing: gray/black for Belle
2) Next day, beret outfit (definitely the next day because they were supposed to go to Granny’s party the night before, but after helping him get dressed, they kissed and rightly decided they had better things to do
3) All day in that beret outfit, day concludes at the cemeteray
**THIS is wear it gets confusing because when they all go into the shop it’s nightime. Did it take hours for Gold to come up with a spell to break Henry out of Pan? If not, then why is it day when they leave the shop? The next time we see them all is during Gold’s goodbyes (sob) and “death” scene (No!!)
I agree that people wear things more than once – I do as well – but I doubt that Gold would ever wear the same exact shirt/tie/hanky combo back to back (or within a day or so of each other) or that Belle would either (and we’ve never seen this on the show). It’s not like a week or two passed, it was at most a day…and I do wonder what happened to Belle’s red jacket, lol
I know my theory is heartbreaking, sigh, but what isn’t heartbreaking when it comes to Rumbelle? What Belle wouldn’t have given to have protected his chest from the dagger the way she’s almost protecting it here, feeling his heart beat strongly beneath hers, feeling the warmth of his body beneath her fingers and the shirt.The kiss ,the way they are clinging to each other’s necks……..I can’t look at this scene the same since the winter finale
