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Thank you so much, RG!
I just have a sneaking suspicion that they had Gold wear this outfit a day or so later for his “death” scene because they wanted to kill us even more: They wanted him to be wearing the outfit that he wore in this scene, the outfit that Belle helped him on with, that he talked about the future in, to add to the poignancy, of course, because he has no future now and also because it it had such brilliantly hopefuly and happy connotations
[adrotate group="5"]RumBelle’s angst could come from Bae. They could’ve had Bae be a bit iffy with Belle since he first met her as Lacey. However Bae seems fine with her, and he and Rumple reunited. The only good thing that could come out of Rumple’s disappearance is that it gives perfect opportunity for Belle/Bae bonding time which is important if Belle and Rumple are going to get married. (Hopefully that is the reason things have been written the way they have). If we’re not shown Bae and Belle bonding, then I will be severely disappointed as it would’ve been a wasted opportunity. I also hope Belle is featured heavily in at least the first three episodes of the second half (since we know 315 is a Belle centric and hopefully Rumple’s return). I had three favourite characters on Once: Belle, Rumple and Felix. With Felix dead and Rumple “lost”, Belle is currently my only favourite character left, if she’s not in the first three episodes that much then I don’t think I’ll enjoy them as much as other episodes.
They could have, or they could have had Rumple and Bae be just a bit strained. I never thought Bae would have an issue with Belle re: Lacey because he only saw her for a few minutes, after which everything blew up. I think the phone call made a bigger impression on him…….Notice how Belle and Bae have been very close to each other in almost every scene? How she’s being overtly affectionate (hand on his arm in that last scene in their shop) with him and Henry, how when they all split up at the cemetary she and Bae looked at each other? I don’t think that’s a coincidence. They both have lost everything in their lives – including the man they loved SOOO deeply. I agree that if we do not see real screen time showing them grieving and bonding, that it will be a shame…and I will be angry. I want it explicitly on screen; I will not be happy with one scene here and then another scene weeks later showing how close they really are so that we’ve missed everything.
Belle is in the first several episodes because Em was filming, but that probably means very little because generally she only gets scattered minutes, lol
I don’t know how to do that black tag thing, sorry!
Yes, being in the same world is not the same as being together; it’s like me being in NY and my brother being in FL……I just don’t think we’re going to see much Rumbelle……but maybe I’ll be pleasantly surprised.
Price, fans would kill for that – we really aren’t asking for a lot, lol. That would be so wonderful, seeing the love in their eyes. It wouldn’t be about bed or sex, just love.
I need Rumbelle to be a team (as we know they are ) and let them face obstacles together. In The New Neverland, they were arm in arm practically the whole episode, which I loved, and they faced the Pan/Henry situation together……..Let’s see more of that. I GET that the Snowing angst comes not from them, but from Emma and Henry, and because Rumbelle isn’t married and they don’t have a child, their angst has to come from them, but enough is enough. I have to believe they intend Rumbelle to the ramifications of the curse breaking together; if they don’t, then Adam/Eddy are hopeless, lol.
Drama does not have to equate to conflict does not have to equate to magical villains. Drama can come from real life situations………I hope we eventually see more of that on the show instead.
betsypaige24 wrote: Price, I’m fine with cutaways, but there’s no reason not to show us a little something. If they didn’t want this kind of thing at all, they should have created a cartoon. I’m sorry, but adults watch this show – this is NOT a kiddy show. You’re right, though, about why Rumbelle has the most smut fan fiction – people, I think, are getting frustrated as well by not seeing anything on screen. Again, just a little taste sometimes….but we get nothing.
I agree and I know it’s a fine line to walk. This isn’t HBO and I’m not asking for GoT type situations (besides I find that fans write better Smut than A and E ever could) but a little something wouldn’t hurt besides the implied nudity. Also, I’m not 100% convinced that they will be separated for 11 episodes (I know we’ve disagreed on this) but I sorta think that by 315 Belle will have found Rumple and then they have to fight their way back to SB.
Yep….I just don’t get Adam and Eddy. They have been given a gift from the TV Gods with Bobby and Emilie; every other show would be dying to take advantage of them, but instead we get constant separations that he tells us aren’t really separations (or he tells us to interpret….I mean, he’s a nice guy, but some of his comments really are ludicrous and meant to lead Rumbellers on so we’ll keep watching.
I could be wrong about the 11 episodes, it’s just that I’ve seen enough of Adam and Eddy to know that that is how they’d likely go, simply to up the angst (of course, that would require that not only Gold in whatever form gets screen time, but Belle as well – and I just doubt she really will. I don’t care how many episodes she’s in – and so far she’s in 12-15-, if she’s going to be in them for like 3 minutes at a time).
S 3B sounds very confusing with 3 timelines: Present day SB, 1 year ago FTL (with hopefully FB of that year) and past FTL. If Belle is going to search for Gold (assuming she believes he’s alive), will it be from FTL of a year ago or present day SB? The few spoilers about them we’ve gotten have been very vague (same world for an extended period, explore relationship/no matter what state they’re in)..If Belle finds Gold in 315, I’d be thrilled, but that just seems so out of character for Rumbelle. Their MO is to have more pain heaped upon them, more angst, than is humanly possible to deal with, lol.
If he looses his memories I am going to be irate. I want an epic reunion. The one on the docks was very public and sweet and family like and I loved the one at the shop too but give me the swelling music and the running into each other’s arms and devouring each other with kisses.
Am I asking too much? Probably
It’s bad enough that we have to deal with another 11 episodes of separation, but memory loss when they do meet would ******
What ticks me off about their beautiful reunions is that there is always something missing……I KNOW they cut out a scene from the docks, where they are alone (the first spoiler image showed Bobby/Em alone)….. WHY didn’t we get a sloppy, messy kiss? Personally, the kiss in the shop is my all time favorite because of how proud Gold was (and should be; I’m sure he WAS perfect, lol), how they looked at each other, the talk about the future…..all leading up to that unbelievably sensual and erotic kiss. Ugh, the open mouths – and Bobby and Emilie, I’m in awe of them and it saddens and angers me that their insane chemistry is being wasted.
They don’t just have chemistry, they have a true acting partnership; it’s very clear that they are on the same page as actors, and it has been from the very start. They TRUST each other completely – as an example, see the “Brother” scene where Gold is kneeling between Belle’s legs. No way that’s scripted- why? Bobby and Emilie undoubtedly went for what would have the most impact – and she was in a vulnerable spot, so she had to feel safe with him. Take their kisses – they are incredibly real, especially the last one, with their open mouths; they are good friends, they feel safe with each other, they view Rumbelle the same way……and because of this, they can be completely honest in kissing scenes (which are generally uncomfortable and awkward for actors not personally involved).
Yeah, I want an EPIC reunion and NOT one that is squeezed in between scenes…. they deserve MORE attention on THEM, especially after this ultimate separation (which “death” is.)Price, I’m fine with cutaways, but there’s no reason not to show us a little something. If they didn’t want this kind of thing at all, they should have created a cartoon. I’m sorry, but adults watch this show – this is NOT a kiddy show. You’re right, though, about why Rumbelle has the most smut fan fiction – people, I think, are getting frustrated as well by not seeing anything on screen. Again, just a little taste sometimes….but we get nothing.
You know what it is? I think that maybe the show can’t handle this much love and sheer emotional/sexual energy that oozes out of Rumbelle – it’s there even when they are just talking. Regina and Graham was……..well, what it was, but there was no love. Sex without love/emotion? We saw them in bed, the clothes on the floor – it wasn’t that big of a deal. With Snowing, they’re….cutesy, so even in bed, they’re joking and being……well, as I call them, champagne. They are a teenager’s idea of love… Now Rumbelle? Even in a brief bed scene similar to a Snowing one, it would be completely differerent. There would be outright lust in their eyes and lots of patting and touching. They are a mature and passionate love and I wonder if the show just doesn’t know how to deal with what Bobby and Emilie bring to these two.
Oh and I think that if there is ANOTHER separation after a reunion? In S4? That fans will leave and never come back…….and I don’t blame them. I can’t see it because I have to think even A/E know that enough is enough and they’ll have to deal with Gold’s curse being broken, the fact that he’s mortal…..and, frankly, that it’s time that they start their life together.I think the title could be linked to the Robert Louis Stevenson quote “Quiet minds can not be perplexed or frightened” and the rest of it. Perhaps Belle is feeling emotionally numb after the loss of Rumple. But he’ll be back!
I love the quote…… and it does fit Belle. She believes in who she believes in, she believes in what she believes in, no matter the circumstances or the whispers in her ear
There’s still so much to delve into with her DC past……and I hope that we get to see her find out in this episode, or feel at least, that Gold IS alive….that maybe no one else believes he is, but SHE does
betsypaige24 wrote: I wonder why, if he’s redeemed and saved, his body had to disappear. Did a higher power need him someplace else?
I think Rumple’s disappearance served two purposes. 1) They needed everybody to think he was dead including Belle so that she can find him and reunite with him again otherwise the RumBellers will revolt and there will be a RumBelleution. 2) If Snowing think Rumple is dead, they’ll have to find there on solution to their upcoming problems rather than running to Rumple all the time to sort it out for them.
LOL All true……oh and yeah, when he comes back? They still need to figure things out for themselves because I’m fairly certain Rumbelle will be DONE with the Charmings and their poor timing, lol. I feel like the Charmings are really stand ins for censors or whatever group of people decides “hey, you can’t show this stuff on TV!”
As to the 2nd point, they could have kept his body and not separated them, lol…. I’m close to revolt myself and many others have revolted already, lol. Seriously, this is the ultimate separation – they can’t, they just CAN NOT separate them AGAIN in S4.
I was thinking that maybe Gold disappeared because he actually died and has to be reborn in a way. I don’t mean spiritually or anything like that, but his sacrifice broke the curse, cleansed him of all that had taken root in him and purified him….I don’t mean that he became a saint, just that in those moments he became bigger than himself, became not just the best version of himself, but a NEW, version, the VERY best version.
What I don’t want to happen is for Gold to ever forget all that has happened to him. I suppose it’s inevitable, sigh, that he lose his memories (at least temporarily), but whenever it is that he’s back to normal as his de-cursed self, I think it’s important that he still be that same man, the man who had struggled and worked so mightily to be a better person, who had transformed through loving Belle and being loved by her. I want my baby to be my baby, lol
Just had a thought. Rumple said to Belle “He’s not dead. He’s just Lost” In the Outsider, Rumple said to Belle in the car “If it wasn’t for you, Belle, I would’ve been lost” Maybe Belle is going to be the one to find Rumple and bring him back.
I’m laughing also because of Emilie’s Paley Fest comment that Belle was “lost”…….and everyone laughed, lol.
Seriously, I thought about that Outsider comment as well. Belle is the only one (maybe with Bae) that I want to find Gold…….that HAS to happen.
I wonder why, if he’s redeemed and saved, his body had to disappear. Did a higher power need him someplace else?
That’s ok, we can agree to disagree. By the way, Adam already confirmed long ago that Gold does not have powers of prophecy in SB – he lost those when the curse was cast.
If he thought he was going to die from the poison, it’s because he was already poisoned; he was suffering – he could feel himself dying. He had no idea before going to NY that Hook would be there and attack him with a poisoned Hook. He did think he was going to die in NL, but that’s because Gold (a) believed in the seer’s prophecy and (b) misread it. After his Belle- epiphany, he fought fate and fought for his future.
I’m unclear what the “not dead, just lost” line has to do with NL, but it clearly as Gold is not dead, it can be very significant. In order for Belle to find him, she’s going to have to believe something like this………….There are other parallels as well
I honestly don’t know what we will get, if anything, of Rumbelle in the 2nd half. If history is any indication, not much…… Rumbelle, whether together or apart, has never had much screen time.
I’m trying not to hope because hope gets me nothing but disappointment, but IF they ever decide to show FB to FTL, I would kill to see post-library moments between Rumple and Belle, when they obviously must have become friendly, and post-curtain scene (pre-bravery talk) moments, when things must have been very awkward between them because neither could ignore their feelings.
Marty, I would LOVE to see FB to SB times that we never got to see……..I don’t think we will, but it would be lovely; it bothers me that ONCE basically shows every single moment of Snowing’s lives together (Ulysses by James Joyce comes to mind), but Rumbelle fans get the Cliff Notes version
I don’t think he thought that he’d die after finding his son, just that it seems that by this point he’d given up hope – hence Belle suggesting it wasn’t too late. He hoped so, but then when he said his ending would not be a happy one you knew he was depressed.
I guess the point of this FB was to show the parallels between his “My ending shall not be a happy one” and his last line of the episode, his talk about being happy with Bae and his comment to Bae about how Bae can be happy without him, and then the implication, of course, that he won’t have a HEA with Belle. Lastly, the “he’s not dead, he’s lost”……where Rumple is defensive about it. Is somehow Belle going to think that about him?
Now that I think about it, Jane said in the commentary in Skin Deep that the reason Rumple believed Regina’s claim that Belle had killed herself (instead of seeking proof) was that this is the kind of thing he expects from life. So, it makes his “my ending shall not be a happy one” and his “villains don’t get happy endings” (no baby, you’re not a villain) even MORE poignant. Poor sweet baby had such HOPES for his future with Belle – that epiphany he had in Ariel was a huge deal to him. YET, I think his last words reveal what he must have always believed in his heart – that despite his hopes, he was always destined to die alone. At least, though, from his perspective, he was taking control of his destiny and saving his beautiful Belle and his boy. ** As I said yesterday, I think he could accept not having a future with his son because parents have to let their adult children go to live their own lives, which is why he told Bae he’d be happy even without his papa. I really do NOT think that Gold ever truly accepted and made peace with never having that life he needed and wanted with Belle. You could see by his last looks at her that it was killing him…………
