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Here’s more from Adam and Eddy
God, the Dark One is NOT Gold’s core character…….I really am starting to dislike Eddy; actually, I’m mostly there. He always says these things that drive me up a wall.. Gold’s core character is Rumple, the man in Manhattan……. he’s cursed and yes he’s been the DO, but that is not who he is. Ugh, Eddy…..
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Once-Upon-Time-Season3-Spoilers-Kitsis-Horowitz-1066624.aspx
[adrotate group="5"]“Young boy” could still refer to PP even if he’s late teens, (like many of us have speculated he will be). “That boy is more than he appears”, well it’s safe to say that even if PP appears to be just a kid, he’s actually a super powerful bad guy with an agenda. And the bit about “will lead you to him” and “will lead you to what you seek” could very well relate to PP bringing about the undoing of the Dark One, leaving Rumple as a mortal man, which he has to be in order to have a real shot at being able to repair his relationship with Bae…which is what Rumple has been seeking all this time.
I don’t think he has to be mortal to repair his relationship with Bae. Bae got a real glimpse of the man his father can be with the phone call to Belle, but really he only knows his father as a boy knows his father. As a boy, what could he have possibly understood about how damaged his papa was and the complexities of life? All he saw was that his papa chose power over him. Yes that was true, but Rumple regretted it the moment he let go. I will be very upset if Belle does not play a huge part in helping bridge the gap as they really have played up the Belle/Bae angle and how devoted she is to him. Belle was an adult when she met Rumple, a very perceptive and kind adult, who could understand how damaged he was, how he hated himself. She knows his father as he does not know him……
That said, I do think Pan is the “undoer”, lol
While the EPIC TLK is the most romantic way he could be cured, I’d be OK with it happening in a different way, because we’ve already seen that she could have cured him that way. Perhaps the fact that he put a stop to it that time means that TLK can’t work for this any more? Maybe it was a one shot deal, and the fact that he threw up a barrier against it relegated that particular cure void for eternity?
It’s actually not a huge deal to me as I think about it because I don’t need any proof of their true love; IMO, what Belle has done for him as a man is far more important than breaking the curse. She has loved him so much, for so long; she has believed in him, fought for him, supported him, had faith in him. As a result, he’s changed, is changing and wants to change. He’s always felt a tremendous amount of guilt for his past, but until Belle, Gold thought that good man had died; he didn’t think he could ever be that. Now she makes him want to be his best self and even as he might struggle, it’s stil a beautiful thing to see. He knows she loves him absolutely, doesn’t ever question that any more (see phone call scene), has made him believe that he is a good man, that he can be better. So for me, curse or not, what Belle has done for him already has been pretty wonderful, lol.
Still, you raise very good points.
On the other hand, set up a scene with Rumple vs PP, two dark forces doing battle over Henry’s fate, converging on each other, trying to consume each other, lots of cool, EPIC, magic-y special effects building up until BOOM, the dark magic is destroyed…THAT would make for some fun TV which would be a fittingly dramatic end to Rumple’s centuries old curse.
LOL like matter and anti-matter colliding, all that’s necessary is for one extra particle of matter to survive (as opposed to one extra particle of anti-matter, which would mean the end of the universe, lol). So yeah, I definitely see Pan and Gold going at it. Gold thinks he’s going to die, which means he doesn’t have a lot to lose, which means an all out war….and PP will be on the losing end.
Robert would OWN every single scene of Rumple having to come to terms with being mortal again. It would be beautiful to watch.
Yes he would.. I actually think he’d want to be mortal again. I mean, he’s got to have been exhausted living this long – and being immortal is complicated. He couldn’t ever bear to watch Belle age and die; I think he’d find a way to kill himself to be with her rather than live an eternity without her.
I kind of think that if he becomes mortal, he might appreciate aging normally and living a life with Belle. What sucks is that since physically he’s 20 years older, how much time would they have together? Sigh
@RumplesGirl wrote:
I think it would be a very interesting conflict to be just a man again. VERY interesting.
I agree. He could probably still use magic I think because what he uses in SB is what he brought to town via the potion he dropped in S1 finale, but to be JUST a man, to be mortal, after so long would be almost like an identity crisis for him. Who is he, really? I feel like he and Belle could on on this journey of discovery together…..
One thing I want to add that just adds to Rumbelle feels: I really kind of love that even when facing his own death (or so he thinks) he’s thinking about Belle and making sure that she not only lives, but that she lives without being haunted by images of what is to come (which he expects to be brutal). Gold doesn’t want Belle to see him reduced to whatever he may be reduced to; his protecting her goes beyond just wanting to keep her physically safe (which obviously he does). He wants to keep her emotionally safe
@RumplesGirl wrote:
@slurpeez108 wrote:
I haven’t seen anyone mention this, but that fact that both Adam and Eddy said they intended to “tame the beast” could be a foreshadowing of Rumple (the beast) becoming a mere man again. Perhaps by going up against Peter Pan, Rumpple’s dark one curse will be undone.
I also thought this. It’s such an obvious B and the B reference that I think it has to be a hint.
What do you think about this? Would you love to see it? It would almost allow Gold to remake himself without the burden of that curse. Remember what he said in TMD just prior to the phone call? He said that maybe it was just as well that he die so that he’d take the cursed power with him. I suspect though he might be frightened that Gold might also be relieved at being JUST a man.
@slurpeez108 wrote:
I haven’t seen anyone mention this, but that fact that both Adam and Eddy said they intended to “tame the beast” could be a foreshadowing of Rumple (the beast) becoming a mere man again. Perhaps by going up against Peter Pan, Rumpple’s dark one curse will be undone.
I’m not sure that’s what they meant, but I really do think Pan is the boy the Seer was talking about, not Henry. I would actually love that to be the case, though I really hate the idea of Belle not being the one to break the curse. In any case, if he were to be undone in terms of the curse, there’s no doubt Gold would struggle to be “just a man” – it would be an amazing storyline and it would be a Rumbelle-oriented one because she would see him through this
@RumplesGirl wrote:
I think Rumple left her behind to protect her from:
NL
PP
The Lost Ones
HImself
Watching him die.Yes, I agree……though he would never, ever harm her. I assume you mean protecting her from seeing him do bad things.
So what does this mean about the spell? Does it mean that anyone could have done it and that this idea that he’s left her in charge of SB is really not the case?
I can see Archie being sort of like an Administrative Assistant and Grumpy being maybe sheriff because he likes being something of a heavy, lol. Granny can be his deputy, whatwith that crossbow of hers
@RumplesGirl wrote:
@Betsypaige24 wrote:
I don’t get it, though; do we know he’s turning into the DO? I mean, does he literally mean that or just that he’s going to have to do some bad things to bad people? Belle sometimes doesn’t quite get that – and maybe that’s why he wants to spare her this.
He’s always the DO though. Always. It’s just that magic works differently in SB which is why he didn’t transform. But he may change back in NL, though I doubt it because from one standpoint I think that’s asking a lot of RC.
You mean because he’s still cursed?
We talked about this in another thread earlier today but Rumple has a tendency to think he needs to protect Belle from everything, because of what happened to her in the past and out of fear of losng her. I think for as long as he lives, Rumple will always be surprised that Belle fell in love with him. He will never stop thinking that she and her love will somehow leave him. So he shields her, almost unnecessarily. This might be the case here.
He does think that, but I think maybe with good reason given that Belle doesn’t want him to do anything that smacks of darkness even if he’s doing it to people who clearly intend to harm her…..or him. She’s so good that at times she can not see what is necessary to fight dark forces. That’s a lovely aspect to her, but it’s also a flaw in some respect
I do think actually that he fully believes in Belle’s love, that he stopped questioning it after all she went through in the Outsider – and certainly that she still loved him and fought for him after finding out about Milha.
What do you think about this?
“It’s going to be another challenge to [Belle and Rumple’s] relationship,” they said. “They’re separated, but he left her behind to protect her … from many things.”
I mean, they are separated yet again, so is it a challenge just because they are separated? That’s not really telling their story at all….I could see it being a challenge only if they were trying to get back to each other, but they’re not. Gold thinks he’s going to die…….I really think we need to see them thinking/dreaming about each other
I don’t get it, though; do we know he’s turning into the DO? I mean, does he literally mean that or just that he’s going to have to do some bad things to bad people? Belle sometimes doesn’t quite get that – and maybe that’s why he wants to spare her this.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
@Betsypaige24 wrote:
It all sounds interesting, but does that mean only the JR characters are core…….including Hook? Not Belle or Bae?
I really think Gold and Pan are going to duke it out big time……I think the prophecy is about Pan being his undoing….
The core characters are the entire main cast, which includes Belle and Bae. They have said time and time again that they are not forgetting those two. It’s worth noting that spoiler writers like this have to make their articles as provocative as possible. Their job it to titillate, so they push the boundaries of what the writers really say.
Right, I know that they’ve said that; you’re right, the spoiler writers are aiming at people like me who take the bait, lol..
