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ParticipantI would like a more interesting answer as well. I simply can’t come up with anything better than the standard love/power decision. But I should add that if my above post turns out to be more or less the truth, boy does that makes Blue look even worse. ‘Give up the baby or else. Oh you choose power? Good. Now stand aside while I drop your sweet innocent baby into the arms of your not so sweet and innocent husband. Don’t worry I’m sure Malcolm will make a great dad.’ Yikes.
[adrotate group="5"]April 23, 2017 at 9:41 pm in reply to: 6×18–Where Bluebirds Fly: Favorite/Least Favorite Moments #337028bibliophile
ParticipantThis episode was better than last week by a mile. It may not be Once at it’s finest, but at least the magic MacGuffin this week didn’t make me cringe like the stuff last week did.
LOVED
Rumple and Belle working together. Seriously why couldn’t they have been this way all along?
The Black Fairy is a very effective and scary villain. Possibly one of their best.
I was happy at the end when everyone seemed to be working together to wake Blue and shake some answers out of her. But why didn’t they mention Gideon’s heart at all? This should be common knowledge guys! Can’t Rumbelle see that their son will be safer if ‘the heroes’ understood that his heart is being controlled?
MIXED
As sweet as it was to see Belle and a baby, it does kind of suck how her character always ends up as the babysitter. Seriously she and Granny should start a daycare and start charging for childcare (where exactly is baby Neal again?) At least this time there was a little bit of character development in that she got a few lines about how much she and Rumple (yes she included Rumple!) missed with their son. Granted Belle herself was a big reason for that and an acknowledgement of that might be nice. Maybe even an apology.
The Regina and Zelena feud needed to be addressed I suppose, but I’m often confused by the meanness we see in Regina in episodes like this one when we’re always being told that she’s a hero now. Yes, Zelena was being hotheaded and shortsighted, but yelling at her and blaming her for all the things isn’t going to help the situation Regina. I didn’t understand how they could be ‘trapped’ underground either.
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I did not need the Emma/Hook make-out scene. Thank heavens Snow walked in and saved the day with some comedy. I do really like how excited Snow is to get to be a part of at least one of Emma’s milestones (though one could argue she’s been a part of many milestones already with all these curses and hell jaunts).
The Zelena backstory didn’t really click for me and as wickedregal said above it’s annoying that the heroes are only nice to Zelena (and I might add Rumple) when she’s doing something for them. I seem to remember them being nice to Regina time and time again while she was still officially a villain. Maybe if they’d coddled Zelena that much she would’ve reformed a long time ago. Honestly this turn around from Zelena is more impressive to me then Regina’s since she came to this decision on her own and without any encouragement from anyone. She just decided that her life sucked and running off to Oz wouldn’t change that so she sacrificed her magic to give them a chance to defeat The Black Fairy. That’s huge. In a way I wish her well and I haven’t forgotten about Baelfire either.
bibliophile
ParticipantMaybe it’s just that Blue gave Black a choice between love (baby Rumpie) and power (fairy wings) and she chose the power (Once loves to draw parallels). Then the bitterness turns her evil and maybe fairy Tigerlily tells her a about a magic whatever that can fix things and Black ends up evil as a result.
April 23, 2017 at 7:33 pm in reply to: 6×17–"Awake" What Were Your Favorite/Least Favorite Moments? #337008bibliophile
ParticipantI agree that The Charmings did not have to shut the door on ten year old Emma in order to save everyone from the curse. Rumple prophesied that she would return to break the curse on her 28th birthday, but nothing I’ve heard about this curse says she had to be exactly that age to break it. She was built into the curse as the product of the true love of her parents and I think she could’ve broken it at any time with true love’s kiss.
The real issue is how exactly ‘true love’s kiss’ works. We’ve seen all manner of curse breaking kisses most notably between Snow and Charming in The Pilot, Rumple and Belle in Skin Deep, and Emma and Henry in the season one finale. But we’ve also seen so many instances of it NOT working, I guess because one of the people in the kiss wasn’t in love at the time, that I still find it confusing and let’s not forget the stunning story of Hook’s dad being woken from a sleeping curse by an utter STRANGER who just happened to fall in love with his sleeping face. I mean I can sort of buy that some woman fell in love with a sleeping stranger, people fall in love with people they don’t really know all the time, but how could he possibly truly love her back if he was ASLEEP?
As nice as it was to re-visit curse era Storybrooke, I really think this is a plot that needed to be dropped. I’d much rather have seen them all work together to maybe trick The Black Fairy into helping them somehow break the double sleeping curse or maybe have everyone in town who are ‘true loves’ gather around the sleeping Charmings and true love kiss each other until the shockwaves woke them up. Hey it’s silly, but no sillier than having everyone drink a curse Regina made or found and have that somehow dilute the one the Charmings were already under.
bibliophile
ParticipantI’d be happy with Rumple losing his power to save his family/everybody. As I’ve said already, I just don’t want him to die.
bibliophile
ParticipantMy initial thought when Black Fairy said to Rumple, ‘when the darkness comes, you’ll change your mind’
was that she was casting another dark curse (since she wrote the first one it seems) and that Rumple would get new cursed memories that would make him side with her. But with Tigerlily also saying something about a coming darkness, that makes me think maybe it’s even bigger than the dark curse and perhaps just having the Black Fairy cross over into Storybrooke uncorked the darkness bottle or something and it’s now able to leave it’s isolated island of darkness and spread across all the realms.So maybe the answer is to re-cork the bottle by re-banishing The Black Fairy to her dark realm.
bibliophile
ParticipantIt does bother me that Emma cared more about getting Hook back then saving her parents, but it was hardly surprising given that she has already taken her whole family (and a blackmailed Rumple) into to hell to save Hook from what was for him a reasonably heroic death.
bibliophile
ParticipantThe problem with that is this idea that The Black Fairy is the original evil or whatever they said or implied (sorry I’m a bit befuddled on the matter) then shouldn’t her darkness be older than Malcolm? The idea of BF losing her wings because she fell in love with a human and had a child makes perfect sense given what we know about Blue Fairy, but what exactly did they say about Black Fairy being the original evil or am I just confused about what they actually said about her.
bibliophile
Participantotal retcon. Also, if they awoke Rumpel, why didn’t he remember anything until he heard Emma’s name when she arrived? Did he drink the potion too?
I believe Rumple said he was going to drink the potion too, so yeah. I guess Emma still makes him remember again.
Forgetting potions always suck. Emma and Hook travel through time and need Rumple to get back… he drinks a forgetting potion and forgets that Bae will die (why would he want to do that? He could’ve had decades to plan a way around Bae’s death… that is much more like what Rumple would actually do). Regina learns who Henry is a decade before Emma returns… she drinks a forgetting potion instead of planning a way to defeat Emma. Bae suddenly turns into a powerhungry killer… Rumple gives him a forgetting potion to make it all better. Now Snow, Charming and Rumple are drinking these things again?! Forgetting potions are SO much worse than squid ink.
bibliophile
ParticipantIt was a very bad idea to do this. It just did not work. It was fun for a minute or two to go back to cursed Storybrooke, but there was way to much magic in this ‘land without magic’ and that flower appearing for no shown reason 10 years into the curse and then 20 some years later when the Black Fairy appeared and only these two times makes zero sense.
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