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ParticipantThe problem is that the show has gone so far out of its way to distance Rumple from all the other characters (even Henry) that Rumple really has absolutely nothing and no one to live for. It’s awful!
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ParticipantMaybe instead of dying immediately after becoming mortal they’ll just tag on a coda where Rumple lives out the rest of his life doing good deeds and bouncing great-grandkids on his knee until he dies naturally and is then reunited with Belle (and Bae!).
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ParticipantWith his hope of ever being reunited with Belle fading, Weaver struggles to find a way to defeat his evil alter ego; and when Rogers’ life is threatened, he is faced with the ultimate sacrifice, on the series finale of “Once Upon a Time,”
Wait so Rumple is going to die to save Nook? NOOK! We go through this whole long series and a character created by a wish who shouldn’t even exist is the one Rumple has to die for? Don’t get me wrong I’ve always expected him to die on the show (he’s already done it once, but they’re never ones to reject leftovers) but I kind of thought it would be to save Bae, Belle or Henry. Emma or The Charmings even. But Nook? Seriously NOOK?!
It can’t be said to many times WISH REALM SUCKS.
Granted I could be reading too much into that quote. How unlike me to overreact. 🙂
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ParticipantAlso, i do not believe for a second that anything besides Rumpel dying was planned since the beginning. The end of last season with Emma in Storybrooke in her bug was supposed to be the ending, but with Neal instead of Hook.
Exactly right!
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ParticipantAgreed. The worst decision Once ever made was killing Baelfire. It ruined Rumple, Emma, and Henry’s stories/storylines and for what? Hook? Hook was a great villain and I’m sure they could’ve found stories for him even after Emma chose Neal. Better stories one hopes.
You know what the writers are right this show is ALL about hope. As in we always hope for the best and they don’t give it too us!
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ParticipantRumple’s story has been the saddest one in Once IMO. People say Regina has lost everything, but she’s had Henry and far more friends than she probably deserved even before she actually started to change her ways.
Rumple has literally lost everyone who ever cared about him (certainly Henry, Emma and The Charmings have never cared about him) and his only hope now is to die and maybe be reunited with Baelfire and Belle in the Once afterlife. It’s so sad!
Where is Gideon anyway? I didn’t like his storyline at all, but you’d think he deserves at the very least a mention. Maybe he’s died offscreen and will show up in the big Stiltskin afterlife reunion scene?
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ParticipantAbsolutely nobody ages properly on this show. I didn’t blink at Ariel/wish Ariel’s age because I’ve given up on the timeline completely now.
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ParticipantStill not clear on how if Gold loses his darkness that Wish Realm Rumple will too. Did he lose it when Emma became the Dark One?
Probably not for one reason: the Wish Realm didn’t exist then. The WR might have history and backstory now but it did not pop into existence until Emma made her wish after her Dark Swan arc. So while the Wish characters have memories of experiences that make them real, any sort of event outside the WR that would have repercussions in the Wish Realm did not actually happen. (and least this is what I’m telling myself)
So maybe there has only ever been one Dark One in all the realms until Wish Realm somehow copied Rumple albeit giving him a different and somehow even sadder story? Maybe one of the stupid rules to stupid wish realm is that if the ‘real’ character dies then so does the wish version? So while Wish Charmings being murdered has zero affect on the real ones, if the real say Hook dies, then Nooky would be a goner too? Or if our Rumple gives up his power, then Wumple would loss his too.
Gee where have we heard that before? It’s Jekyl and Hyde all over again. Oh well whatever. At this point all I expect (And I do expect it!) is emotional closure. Logical closure and a coherent story really is just too much to hope for.
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ParticipantThis episode was all over the place, but it did hold my interest throughout with all the callbacks and of course the double Rumple/Wumple scenes.
LOVE
“I know it’s a bit cluttered; but it’s beach front property.”
“All I see is a cave where booze goes to perish.”
The Apprentice making fun of the wonky timeline.
Every scene with Robert Carlyle in it.
Wish Henry bringing up the cold blooded murder of his grandparents. Not to mention the assumed kidnapping of his mother. Again Wish Realm was a terrible idea on multiple levels!
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I enjoyed seeing pan, Ariel and Cruella again, but they were really useless for the most part. Ariel’s was the best even if it was the shortest, at least she had SQUID INK to share.
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Henry smashing Nook’s head in with the base of a candlestick – he should be dead or dying after a blow like that! When will Tv writers learn about how head trauma actually works?
The continually confusing family relationships – The writers have always had a problem with Henry being Rumple’s grandson and having two sets of them just ups the awkwardness. I really wish (my wish realm would be so much better then theirs) that they had invested more in the family aspect of the show and less in the ‘ships’.
Um did we just open with another ‘true love kiss’ between strangers or did unnamed knight know that sleeping beauty before the kiss just as Henry did only not as brotherly? Chalk down ‘true loves kiss’ as another aspect that Once overused/under explained over the years.
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ParticipantI wanted Rumple to choose good and become The Light One instead of The Dark One. But since that would (I assume) leave him immortal once more and thus separated from Belle still.
I agree that having our Rumple stab wishy with his dagger doesn’t sound like enough. He might have to pull the magical double stab ala Peter Pan’s death. But..then wouldn’t he just go back to the vault like the last time? That doesn’t sound Belle heaven. When The Apprentice purified his heart (for lack of a better description) the darkness escaped and looked for the next darkest heart it could find (Regina again?) so that didn’t work. Maybe they’ll have to go back to the hat and sacrifice Hook (Rumples ‘oldest’ friend) to capture the darkness for good. Fine by me.
or they could do what I read here earlier and have Alice take it through her weird guardian powers and maybe turn it back into the grail somehow.
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