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Sarah_TN wrote: The ironic thing is that if the reason why they did release this spoiler is because of what the PA said, being that she never said it was a main cast member (and they did), a few theories would have been thrown around, but then the matter would have just died out on it’s own.
I have a hard time believing that the person to whom the PA was referring–unhappy, trashing their trailer–is any of the main cast. They all hang out together! They go to concerts and the bar and are actually all friends off set. MRJ just said during his #AskMRJ that working with JMo is like working with a close friend. Sean has tweeted pics of MRJ, Colin, Josh and himself hanging out. We’ve seen pics of Josh, JMo, Colin and MRJ together having a good time. JMo and Ginny are best friends. Everyone speaks of each other very highly. In other words, I don’t think that the PA was referring to one of our regulars. Also..I find her tweets fishy. Without prompting or being asked for information: she just tweets a major spoiler about a death?
I know what you mean, but don’t forget….she’s a media professional in training. She’s young, and starting out in this industry. I don’t think it was an accident that this got leaked. Call me a conspiracy freak, but I would entertain a possibility that she, Adam, and Eddy were all in on this as a way to get conversation started. I would also entertain a possibility that you are correct, though. That is kind of fishy. If that news wasn’t supposed to get out, and A&E really thought they could use it to their advantage, my question is what in the world were they thinking?!?!?! I think by doing this they did stir up buzz, but in the process have made a lot of their fanbase very unhappy and dissatisfied. They cast a black cloud over everything, just like you said earlier. That’s going to wear on people, and will eventually turn them off. It may be after March, but the question will always loom: “Who is going to die”? That’s going to ruin the show for everyone, because just like somebody said earlier in the thread, nobody’s going to watch for the episodes. They’ll be watching to see if their favorite makes it past another week.
I agree with everything all of u said, but there is something also not good in the PA spoiler, because unless there are several minor death characters, and we can not point the trash, messy and unhappy actor, if there is only one death, this rumours can also destroy the actor carer, i mean will always exist that doubt if what the PA said is true or not.
One example, if is Neal, i serious doubts that this was story line, i will wonder if MRJ was unhappy, and even got to the point of trash and get the trailer messy, and this will spread through the internet and media and obvious in hollywood that lives of this rumours, becuase id is Neal why make an actor regular to use him in 16 epi( if the death happens there) to in the end he only had like 1 hour total of screen time in all epi? that doesnt make sense, thye could have kept him as recurring, i mean even recurring( like robbie and parker had more screen time than MRJ in part1), if is any other actor i think i may consider that is story, but still , if we dont have any other minor deaths will always hang the rumour about what the PA said.
Also, the death didnt exact started with the PA, i remenber seing Adam anwser a Hook fan , whne they start filming 15, why did he kill hook on 15, back then adam even anwser something like “i know what u are doing”, so im not saying is hook, but is very strange that some weeks before someone asked adam about a regular character death, because if no one talk about it i think we all would think the character would be Happy because of the whole twiter war, i think we all thought the regulars were safe.Going back to the PA, if i remenber right her words were, THE actor probably doesnt mind leaving, ( this means that is story related, not the actor asking or all set notice the lack of interest in the character), but if is related to other characters we dont know.
This spoiler only made people fear the next part season, and even the fandom is a small part of the viewers, there is always someone that spoil this to a regular viewer and even the regular viewers, may think, why would i keep seing if they keep killing characters let`s not forget that in their heads rumple is dead and that will eventual will make the regular viewer tired of so many confusions, also maybe even on their heads the show was over for the season, because of hiatus.
[adrotate group="5"]Gold has paid the price over and over and over again; he’s suffered immensely. Zoso was a truly evil person and he wanted Rumple to take on the curse…………he wanted someone to take it on, he didn’t care about ending the evil by killing himself. Gold knew he was killing himself (as a person and as DO) when he stabbed himself – I firmly believe that. In TMD, he was dying of the poison and he told Emma/Neal that ”at least the cursed power” will die with me (or something like that). As long as he died and no one else became DO, the power was going. That’s not really my point, though. Point is: either have Gold be dead and leave it at that or have him be alive, really alive. I realize I have to take Eddy’s comments (which make no sense really) with a huge grain of salt because, sorry, the guy says stupid things all the time. Oh and this: Gold died a hero – do we really think anyone is going to remember that at the beginning of S3B except for Belle and Bae? No one will care about his sacrifice, they’ll just pretend as if he never existed. That’s what will happen with this death in S4…… Nessa: If it’s Neal that dies, I don’t think Rumbelle won’t truly be happy, but of course there would be holes in their hearts that could never truly heal……. I just don’t want to see Rumbelle have a happy ending off-screen unless we get to sometimes see them happy on; that would pretty much infuriate me. I honestly don’t think Adam/Eddy like Rumbelle……I used to think they did to some extent, but I’m so tired of their act. This might seem like heresy, but (and keep in mind that I’m upset with the show, that my heart will ALWAYS be with Rumbelle): S1 was magical, romantic, fantastical…….it was FUN. ONCE now is like an ordinary show; what once distinguished it no longer does. All A/E care about his bringing on as many characters as possible. I think I’d take S1 back and deal with no Rumbelle…….. I mean, we don’t get Rumbelle anyway, so I would erase SD as if it never existed or I’d just have Regina really kill her. It breaks my heart to say this, but I HATE seeing Belle in storyline Siberia and seeing Rumbelle suffer (appropriately) the Groundhog Day of fates: separation after separation after separation. Every day for them is like February 2nd. Yes, no SD means no gorgeous redemption arc for Gold, but they were never planning that anyway……..at least not at that point. Belle was made a regular because she was so popular – and Rumbelle was an overnight sensation – not because Adam/Eddy intended it. At the time Em was made a regular, I loved their flexibility in changing the story, but now I see that they are far more rigid than I thought. Belle is ignored by everyone not named Gold or Archie, her sufferings don’t count (no A/E, we fans have NOT forgotten that you have NOT allowed her to at least confront Hook and Regina) and she’s just……there. Frankly, at times I wish Belle were not a regular; they could bring her back as often as they needed her – and if Em was unavailable or unable to, so be it.
Agree with you, and i share your feelings, why they bring this actors to become a regular just to use them like if they were props, and why they keep bringing so many characters instead of develop the ones they have, i know that this have nothing to do with this, but why two major villains in the same season?
Why they dont make the second part , like a continuation of what happened, for example, since they wanted to end the season with another curse, they could still make pan died and then go back to the EF and rumple would still be with the gang and would make the curse to bring them back because of neal and maybe the vilains in the second part could be about the home office and their fight against magic, and some how would be a continuation of the p1, since pan made the home office.
But no, they bring this new characters and simply put the ones they have aside, and worst they dont even hide that they dont like them, i mean rumbelle has like 1 epi together and then 10 separated then another 1 epi together and again 10 separate and finally have 1 epi together and in the end of that same epi are separated and the writers simply say that they will be together in the same world, really?
I still think that will neal dead they will not be happy, because in 221 rumple was prepated to die and only brought belle memories back so that she could die as belle and not lacey, in that scene he showed that like what should happen with any parent, the romantic love is not bigger than the parent love, so i believe that he would be suicide mode again.
I dont believe in anything that Adam says anymore, i never saw him defend rumbelle like he defends snowing and captainswan and recently even outlawqueen deserves more excitment from him than rumbelle and swanfire, and that is why if is neal that dies( he cannot say that is story, so why make MRJ regular to kill him, specially with the screen time he had P1, we only get the option that the actor asked out, because like meghan he was unhappy with the story), he ends with two ships, Sf and Rumbelle and has an oportunity to bring rumple in dark one mode, since i cannot see any villain good enough for next season, if they have one.
Well i think that rumple is alive, why, because the dark ones can kill themselfs, if that was possible then the dark one before rumple would have kill himself.
However i do think that Adam and Eddie dont like Rumbelle like they love snowing, but i do think that they will reunite again on S3B, will they have a happy ending, although i want them to have and as a neal fan i would love to see the family relation develop, i dont thing they will have.
I really wanna have hope, but this moment is like -0% that neal wont be the one to die, and with his death rumbelle will never be happy, how is that rumple will allow himself to be happy when his son wasnt given that option? I believe that Belle bonded with neal during this past year, so i dont think that she will be able to trully be happy having lost a friend and seing rumple unhappy.
I really hope that they are able to safe rumple from www control before the end of the season,i think that was why belle was sad, because she knew that now they would have to fight rumple, although i read somewhere that he still had the cuffs, so even if the www controls him, i think he wont be able to use magic.
Yeah, promoting MRJ to a full cast member when they did would be pretty silly if they were gonna write him out before the season was over. With all the screen time and promo Hook’s been getting this season, it’d make sense if it’s building up to the climax and end of the character’s storyline IMO. If Neal died now, they’d get no media mileage out of it at all, because the character just hasn’t been promoted. They’d get plenty of mileage out of Hook’s death though, because all the media is already focused on him. Neal’s death would be a *fizzle* in the media, and in the show, because they’ve already shown the rest dealing with his death before. Hook’s death would be a *BANG*.
Adam always says he and Eddy aren’t responsible for promotion, but they do have to sit down with their marketing team and say, “ok here is our story for the season. You figure out how to make it work.” Telling their marketing team that they want to kill Hook or Neal before S3 would be something huge that the team has to incorporate. Hook’s poster came out first. The JR was at ComicCon. Hook’s face was plastered all over SDCC. When ONCE facebook asked for fans to vote for their new cover photo–2/3 all had the “Hook” imagine and the tagline “get Hooked.” Over the past month of hiatus they have created and tweeted more Hook/CS pics than any other (almost exclusivity in fact, the exception being the death of Rumple). During the season they tweeted during the show and it was a TON of Hook stuff. All media about ONCE mentions Hook in some degree. At first I was overly annoyed and now…suspicion.
Yeah, i must say is at the same time very ood this hook promotion, and is true that adam say that they dont do promotion, but they write the show,and if Abc has something to promote is because is part of the show, but going back to the hiatus promotion, i dont live in Us so i dont know , but i asked yesterday at the chat when u can use the word beloved, and i was told in marriaged and funerals, i dont know if when u leave a job and the company really like u , they would do a speech and say beloved, but then i was told that those words arent use when u leave a job, but my point is, last sunday on colin birthday, they made a new HBday just for him, instead of using the normal one like for all actors, and used the word Beloved, at the time i thought was very biased now i wonder if is a goodbye( or maybe is me being hope, i dont know), like the hook promotion in one week, i mean 5 days everyday with hook pics on the net, was in fact the week of tca, that was were adam and eddie spoile the death to Matt, makes me wonder.Also my ship heart, liked the theory of film several deaths with several actors or at least with one and then another one is the death, that woul be a good way of stoping the leak and even use a person as decoy while they kill someone else without us even realizing.
even wonder if we wont have more actors that we wont see on the next weeks, so that we especulate, i even thinking is correct the possibility of paying the actor who dies to stay in vancouver and appear on studio just to pretend that is working and this way the pap will get very confuse.
RumplesGirl wrote: ^^^^^^ all of that! Major Characters die in their centrics–Graham, Cora, and to a lesser extent Rumple and even Malcolm “died” in their own centric. Neal is one of three original characters. They wouldn’t kill him in an episode that is a centric of the big bad! That wold be unbelievably cruel
I agree RG but I can’t see them killing Neal at all because he is a major part of why the show was created in the first place and he is a huge part of the lives of Henry, Emma and Rumple and their Happy Endings and their stories in general to kill him in this juncture of the story with so much unresolved[ would be like committing suicide for the show{/spoiler]
I really want to believe that , but im always stoped by the PA rumours that someone is unhappy and dont mind leaving, if that is true and is MRJ that wants to leave the only way is by killing neal, because after everything they could not sent him to NY and leave his son and father behind in SB.
So the thing is , if she didnt say anything or if she confirmed of sure that was not the reason, that we misurdertood or even that is another character diferent from the regular cast, i could believe, but also if he look into mrj aproach to ouat from S2 to S3 is very diferent, he used to twite at least every sunday to see the show, this year nothing only in the premiere. I just hope this askmrj is not a goodbye but i must say my hopes are at the bottom.
Rose i believe isnt in vancouver anymore, at least she twited from La from a premiere of a movie she made.
Once Upon a Time, our team mate, Danna B, dreamed up a very special adventure for our #14 to visit Storybrooke. She spent the day with the handsome Colin O’Donoghue (Captain Hook) who took her around the set to meet almost the entire cast and crew of the hit TV show.
Someone involved in the jersey project actually visited the set for one day. [/quote]
Yes, that is true,i find that online, but my thing is, did this person meet them on studio before they go filming, becuase we all know that the only day for this to be taken, acording to sean leaving vancouver on 18, has to be of the 17th , 1st day of filming epi 16, but on 17 emilie was in La for the PCA`s. Becuase where are the pics of this person with the actors, since was Colin that took the pics, i dont believe that they would let someone from outside enter the set the whole day, while they film a funeral scene, and if this person is a fan of the show, she woul ask where is MRJ, is really strange that they allow her to pass a day filming a funeral, that person would imediately wouls find out by the person missing who was dead, that is what i think is really odd about this supposed day. I dont even question this person identidy because im sure they would investigate this person to know is wasnt lying about being who she is, they wouldnt be that stupid.
And that they allowed this person to post the pics, while there is a spoiler death is even more strange, and from what is saw yesterday, the 1st time posted was in tumblr, dont they have a site to post all the pics?
Sorry to go back to the yesterday cemetery scenes, but does anyone else things is odd that they let someone from outside the set going in, spend one whole day with them and take pictures, when they all made some secrecy about what is going on?
Also we know acording to twiter, but i dont know if we can trust that anymore, that Sean left Vancouver on the 18th , saturday, since this was filmed for the 16, has to be on the 17th of january, but the odd was, that Emilie on the 17th was in LA for the Pca thing. Also on that same day we heard from rose,saying that on that day she had the 1st clothe prove for tink, and also acording to twites from Pa and pap, on that same afternoon on studio were Rebeca, rose and lana.
So im wondering, since in a previous post, i put, that was colin taking the pics( so why only now, after almost 3 weeks) if this pics were actually all taken on the same day, and not just sent to this person with the shirt and the photos. Because i would thought that we would have pics of the person that was on set with the actors, not just the actors signing the shirt, can this be that this person was never inside the set, colin took the pics from several days and this person simply thinks was all taken in the same day , that probably she took the shirt to be sign?
Sorry to make all this questions, but i find it odd that they just came out now, that this person was offer full acess to the set, when they could be a pap, and was alow to take pics, but not appear in any, or that an actor would take pics of an important scene and spoile it like this, a funeral. i dont know i this is just weird and something is just off.
here is what i found about the pics that is making everyone crazy. The Blue fairy was there, but doesnt show in the pics, in fact i think none of us knew that keegan was filming for the 316.
Once Upon a Time, our team mate, Danna B, dreamed up a very special adventure for our #14 to visit Storybrooke. She spent the day with the handsome Colin O’Donoghue (Captain Hook) who took her around the set to meet almost the entire cast and crew of the hit TV show. The crew kindly signed the jersey and Colin captured the day with his camera. A very special thank you to Colin and the rest of the cast and crew who took the time to meet our14.”
>Mario VanPeebles (Director and Actor), Jennifer Morrison (Emma Swan), Emilie de Ravin (Belle), Ginnifer Goodwin (Snow White), Josh Dallas (Prince Charming), Jared Gilmore (Henry), Keegan Connor Tracy (Blue Fairy), Rose McIver (Tinkerbell), Sean Maguire (Robin Hood) and Lana Parilla (Evil Queen). a wonderful group of people who were happy to have our #14 spend the day with them and they wish our Irene all the best
