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Can we breathe again? Can we just stay out of each other’s thread, instead of fighting with each other? Like, this is why the CSF died and vanished into the forum oblivion because it only stirred up evil things. Or at least keep the hate out of this thread?
I think people are entitled to read the others threads, I mean, how can they be stopped? @Aurora brought this to my attention because someone had apparently literally QUOTED ME in the SF thread. I don’t blame @Aurora at all, she was only offering me a chance to defend my points. She wasn’t hating on SF or anything. It’s PoM who is invading the thread when s/he isn’t supposed to…
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Er I’m sorry PoM but I believe RG told us to stay out of other people’s threads? And honestly I can’t talk civilly to you… I can’t converse with anyone with as much hatred in their heart as you have.
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In OUAT (and OUATIW) we have consistently been shown: that TL does not move on it always finds each other when it is separated, it ruins the couples lives that both partners need to believe in their love SF literally fits NONE of these criteria. I mean, you could ignore it not meeting one or two, but ALL FOUR? NOPE.
Does anyone care to elaborate on these points?
PoM has made a post about this in the SF thread saying that SF meets all four criteria. LOL no.
1) It is canon that Neal moved on. Adam has said so. SFers are constantly going on about how “Adam said that Neal didn’t call the cops on Emma!!! Why can’t you leave Neal alone!!!!”
You can’t just take what Adam says as gospel on one thing and not on another. That’s not how is works.
Plus it was shown in the show as well. Neal believed in his and Tamara’s love, that is UNQUESTIONABLE. He believed in Tamara up until the very last minute.
So I was right, it wasn’t Tamara.
You cannot just discount this kind of thing lol.
And another thing – the writers made Tamara Neal’s fiancé for a reason – it was to show he had moved on. If that wasn’t the case, Tamara would have just been Neal’s girlfriend. But Neal made a very important commitment – a commitment to spend the rest of his life with Tamara. And if, as SFers are so prone to saying, Neal didn’t actually love Tamara (lol again contradicts canon), then is makes him a huge *butt*hole to propose to spend the rest of his life with a woman if he didn’t love her. Says a lot about what Neal’s love is worth if that’s the case *snorts*
2) Neal never found Emma – not once. Not in Portland, not in NY, not in NL. All of those times was Emma mostly inadvertently finding him – in Portland and NY it wasn’t even her intention to find him. And the ONE TIME she was purposefully looking for him? For TWO YEARS in Tallahassee? She didn’t. Ahem. Yeah.
3) It ruined Emma’s life for a long time – but it’s didn’t ruin Neal’s. Neal moved on with his life, got a job or something (who knows?), didn’t have to pay for his crimes, met a fiancé, got engaged. He literally had no intention to go back to SB with Emma – he was happy with his life. And the only reason it ruined Emma’s life was because Neal didn’t break it off properly – he gave her no closure.
4) Emma doesn’t believe in their love. In fact she wished he was dead so that she could more easily put the pain he caused her behind her. So, in other words, her love for him is not enough.
Neal doesn’t believe in their love. Again: “your belief in love wasn’t strong enough to overcome your fear of rejection.”
It literally does not get plainer than that.
Honestly I couldn’t give a monkeys what PoM is saying. This is coming from someone who was trying to inspire hatred of a fictional character actions, trying to make them out to be sexual assault, when only a few EPISODES ago, they were unsure of which to ship, and disparaging both Neal and Hook in equal measure.
ANYWAY
I’m infinity% confident that our ship is going to come out on top 😉
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CaptainEala wrote: Oh I’m just saying that I hope the writers “delayed” the pregnancy so that when Snow and Emma meet up again, Snow is still pregnant and Emma has time to.. I dunno come to terms with it
that’s all. I’m not saying Snow shouldn’t have a baby. At this stage of the game, Emma and Snow should just be friends. That’s the sort of relationship you’re supposed to have with your parents as an adult IMO. I’m great friends with my mother I see what you are saying but to me that would be a waste of screen time. Emma could see through Snow’s eyes and with the baby how desperate Snow wanted a baby and to see Snow’s mother side vs friend side since she stated they have the same experience Emma can finally accept Snow as her mother more. Besides like what could Snow do if she is pregnant or have a baby with her she can’t fight anymore so this might make Emma more aware that she has too move on that bitterness has to stop in my opinion.
I gotta say, it could be my shipper goggles talking, but I think Emma will be discomfited by Snow being pregnant or having another child. And who do you think she’s going to turn to?? Not Snow obviously. Not David either. Certainly not Neal or Henry. And who does that leave…?
*ding ding ding*
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This makes me SO mad too! Sure, after Emma finds YOU, you say you are going to fight for her. That’s EASY! When was he ever around for any of the HARD stuff, like NOT leaving her, or coming to FIND her?? Don’t get me started!!
Your belief in love wasn’t strong enough to overcome your fear of rejection.
I mean… helloooooooo!
I know SFers like to believe that what makes SF beautiful is that it’s a ~real life ~messy ~imperfect relationship, but I call BS on that.
EVERY SINGLE FANTASY STORY HAS RULES. Rules which HAVE to be followed. Otherwise the story makes NO SENSE. You have to follow a structure.
In OUAT (and OUATIW) we have consistently been shown:
- that TL does not move on
- it always finds each other
- when it is separated, it ruins the couples lives
- that both partners need to believe in their love
SF literally fits NONE of these criteria. I mean, you could ignore it not meeting one or two, but ALL FOUR?
NOPE.
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I’ve even been thinking, the closer we get to March, likely, we’re going to see more interviews leading into the premiere of 3B; maybe even a recap, which will be greatly needed and there’s going to be even more stuff to analyze and write metas about…more gifs. Good stuff is coming and that’s where the real fun begins.
I LITERALLY CANNOT WAIT
I NEED REGINA TO PUT ME UNDER A SLEEPING CURSE
AND SOMEONE TO DELIVER COLIN TO ME ON MARCH 8TH TO ADMINISTER TLK
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Oh I’m just saying that I hope the writers “delayed” the pregnancy so that when Snow and Emma meet up again, Snow is still pregnant and Emma has time to.. I dunno come to terms with it 🙂 that’s all. I’m not saying Snow shouldn’t have a baby. At this stage of the game, Emma and Snow should just be friends. That’s the sort of relationship you’re supposed to have with your parents as an adult IMO. I’m great friends with my mother 🙂
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SO excited to see Red again 🙂 I don’t care when she comes in, as long as she isn’t relegated to being Henry’s babysitter again!
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I also think Snow will have her baby in FTL, before the curse to counter the previous story where she had to send Emma to protect her now the whole family will be cursed together like when Emma made that comment when the curse was broken.
Good thinking actually! Although I kind of hope it won’t happen that way, I’d like for Emma to have some time to get used to the idea of getting a sibling *sigh* she’s barely wrapped her head around the fact that she has parents who love her.
I got to thinking since Emma started out giving Birth to Henry kind of like the Pilot was with Snow. I wonder if they will Book End it so to speak with Emma’s wedding like Snow had to do parallel stories.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH I WANT THIS
ADAM HOROWITZ already said that Neal DID NOT CALL THE CUPS
Yeah Adam said this. But it doesn’t change the fact that Neal has not ONCE denied that he allowed Emma to go to jail. In fact he even said he wanted to go to jail for her. The narrative says that Neal KNEW what August was going to do… at the moment that’s canon as far as I’m concerned, no matter what anyone says. We have gotten NO evidence to suggest otherwise.
Neal NEVER went searching for her, Adam never said that. That was one of the reasons why when Neal said “I’m never going to stop fighting for you. Never.” I got SO mad, because when has he EVER fought for her, EVER? He didn’t find her when she got out of prison. He didn’t find her when August came to NY to tell him he was heading to SB – he was only concerned about his father finding him. He didn’t find her when he got the postcard in 2×01. He has just let her down in every way possible as far as I’m concerned.
Anyway, no worries, CS is TL and timeless, transcends realms etc. 😉
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*sigh* yes I saw some of those comments @emmajones. The misogyny is unbelievable.
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