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In Colin’s words:

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A big KISS led up to with playful banter (that reminded me of next time don’t’ stand on ceremony), they made a big deal out of sacrificing for love but the sacrifice was so that they could be TOGETHER and not writing himself out of her life even though someone told him to. Also their reunion was just…very Snowing which gave me a lot of feels. Running and lifting in the air and kissing. As a reunion SHOULD be when you once believed your true love was dead but isn’t and all etc etc.

Gaaaaaaaah i’m excited to see it! Thanks! I’ve been keeping OUATIW for the hiatus so have only seen the first four episodes or so.

I WILL NEED SOMETHING FOR THE OUAT WITHDRAWALS

After all, certain feelings are hard to deny  and I don’t see theirs going away.

YESSSSSSSSSSS

I’d say that’s….fairly accurate though they could have ended on a more positive note!

LOL! To be honest, with CS all i’m like is:

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So this caught my eye on tumblr from onceuponamirror regarding OUATIW:

Was watching ouatiw tonight and like many of you, noticed some interesting parallels

because in the face of being TOLD that leaving Alice was the right thing to do, for her sake, Cyrus instead found a way to keep them together, by sacrificing what he held onto from his mother. He also asked and made sure it was her choice.
unlike Neal being TOLD to abandon Emma for the greater good and the right reasons, and then…him doing it. Not sacrificing what he held onto from his father (abandonment issues/fear), without asking Emma what she wanted.
Same writers, you guys.

See, what i’m loving about OUATIW is that it’s showing us a TL couple that are currently fighting to get together. They showing us how it should be done. The disparity between Neal’s actions and Cyrus’ actions are quite clear IMO.
Cyrus and Alice acted as a team, Alice was consulted and her choice taken into account. Neal didn’t work with Emma to find a solution, her choice wasn’t taken into account – heck he didn’t even TELL her there was a choice to be made.
I’m also going to remind everyone of this:
Snow to Charming in 3×04

If you died I would not be able to move on!

Will to Alice in 1×02(?):

When somebody truly loves you, they can never move on.

Adam Horowitz:

Neal moved on and was genuinely in love with Tamara.

Snow’s and Will’s statements are quite clear – when it’s True Love, you are unable to move on.

 

Those statements are, as far as i’m concerned, immutable. They aren’t open to interpretation – they aren’t fuzzy or indistinct, and you cannot twist them into anything they’re not (much as SFers try).

A&E’s take on True Love makes it pretty darn certain that Swanfire are an example of what True Love is not.

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Just quickly popping in before we go see the Hobbit, to link this awesome tumbler post I was linked to from FB (sorry if it’s been posted before- I dont have time to go back & check if it has already). Enjoy http://mufflednoise.tumblr.com/post/68307832808/debunking-the-villainy-of-killian-hook-jones

@surayya – thanks for the posts!!! Keep em coming! 😉

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Really love this recaper ( http://teenwolfmixtapes.tumblr.com/post/69515991800/ouat-3×10-the-new-neverland-recap ), I LOL every time

OMG me too, she makes everything so hilarious!!!!

I’ll start with the actual CS news that is exciting / confusing!

jfas;lkdfjalk;sdjfl;kadjfoiewuelkjvadfnauroilaksjdflk;af

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THEY’RE STILL TOGETHER IN 3X14, THANK GOODNESS, YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

So I saw a lot of positive CS stuff  in tonight’s episode (as well of course as yay for Cylice being reunited!

Oh MysteryKat could you elaborate on that? I haven’t seen the episode yet lol

 

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Seriously can’t wait for PaleyFest this year. It should have some good stuff and I really really hope their poker faces forget to show up again! (And that they’re allowed to tell us a little more!)

OMG I FORGOT THIS WAS COMING UP

WHEN IS IT DOES ANYONE KNOW?

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*blushes**squirms**ajdlkfajl;dkfj*

@MysteryKat25 I love everything you write too! I love everything everybody writes. I know I have strong opinions and can probably come across a bit arrogant at times but I appreciate everybody here, everyone’s opinions help me to solidify and add to my own thoughts!!! 🙂

There’s just so many positive things in that post I wouldn’t know where to start but will say I absolutely adored the point about how JMO has said that Emma hasn’t found that yet.

I think the actual quote was (not completely sure, recalling from memory) “Emma is the product of True Love, and I think it’s in her nature to want to find her own”.

Who do we know that is tired of getting jerked around by the manipulations of others that has controlled her entire life? Emma. Just saying.

Oh yes. And I think, but I could be wrong that the jail thing is coming out this week, in all the emotion. It would make sense – we know that the nurse and the doctor from the birth scene are coming back, and we need to find out how Pan found out about Henry, and how he happened to know that Henry was born in jail and sent to Maine. It’s all connected. I don’t think Emma (or Neal for that matter) are going to at all appreciate finding out that they were manipulated by Pan into meeting.

Not sure how soon we’d be introduced to whoever Neal’s new love interest would be (please not TOO soon.

Oh god nooooooooooooooo

I want Neal/Rumple feels

There is plenty of time for more romance in Neal’s life

Just not this season, please A&E!!!!

Something for your enjoyment because it cracked me up:

Omg…………. lololololololol!!!!!

And the timing of it just seems weird. Wouldn’t you want to release something like that PRIOR to the episode to make people wonder what was going to happen as opposed to after the episode when everyone has already seen it and clearly knows that NOTHING happened???

To me it just feels like they are trying to get in the straggling viewers – viewership has been falling recently and funnily enough, the first half of the 3A was very CS focussed (not saying anything I swear). So they’re trying to amp up drama and make anyone who ships CS but isn’t obsessive go “OMG WHAT’S HAPPENING MUST TUNE IN ON SUNDAY”

It’s a very poor attempt IMO lol, because like you’re saying, there was nothing in the least romantic about that scene. Killian’s pain was a palpable thing and Tink was having none of it haha.

Everyone I know (including my husband and 70 year old mother) says that they don’t think Neal fits in with the rest of the cast.

Agreed. I have a few online friends from the US who aren’t into shipping and half the time they’re like “who’s Neal again?” and I’m like “Baelfire” and they’re like “oooooh yeah”

It’s literally because he has nearly 0% of an emotional storyline, I’m convinced. I saw ladyhacksaway on tumblr (who is a massive Neal stan actually) bemoaning the fact that he has as much emotional resonance “as a lamp” lol. Which is true!!!! I think anyway.

Your average casual viewer isn’t even going to follow the show on Facebook or Twitter so they are never going to see that stuff anyway.

Hmmm I don’t know if I agree. The OUAT Facebook page has over 3.5 million likes – the OUAT fandom on tumblr is nowhere near that big for example. So in order to draw in the stragglers as I mentioned above, they’re trying to play up the drama. At least that’s what I think lol.

Do they like creating things that cause internet shipping wars???

*sigh* yes. Yes they do. All publicity is good publicity after all (except for ABCs lame attempt at cast photos for this season, the first set were simply AWFUL lol)

 

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Agh sorry it took so long to post this I got distracted!!!!!

I don’t understand the still with Hook and Tink at ALL. First it is a HORRIBLE picture of Tink. She isn’t even looking at him. Second, the whole “Who’s Emma? I only see you.” Watching the episode I agree with how WE all interpreted everything that happened there. But then why on earth would ABC post THAT as publicity???? Lke they are trying to hype some new ship.

I made a post on this yesterday about how GREAT I thought it was! And I do lol. ABC have a crappy publicity department, but they know one thing – that Killian (and consequently Captain Swan for 95% of Hookers) is one of their biggest draws for the show. The captioned it “looks like trouble” in a photo where Killian is saying “Who’s Emma?”. Implying: uh oh, there’s trouble in the Captain Swan department. Which means that they’re trying to get people to watch on Sunday to see what happens with them. Which to me can only mean a good thing.

Like, I get that they’re publicity or whatever, but it would be a SUPREMELY bad idea to lead on the show’s biggest legit ship (which they have been doing all along) because all of us will be MASSIVELY *urined* off if it turns out that Neal and Emma get together. And thus they will lose viewers. Like, they’re legitimately not even promoting this “triangle” properly – it’s extremely lopsided towards Captain Swan.

i.e. they’re the couple they WANT us to root for

Like, when you leave out the fandom part of it and just consider the normal viewers of the show (I have two “normal viewer” friends who btw, ship CS, and one OBSESSIVE CS friend just like me – and they’re the ONLY people I know who watch OUAT in Ireland because it’s not well known) they’re trying to lead them around to rooting for Captain Swan.

We keep seeing Killian giving all these emotional performances and we see Neal giving……. no emotional performances in the battle to win Emma’s heart. None. Zero. He was more romantic about their relationship when he was talking to freaking Mulan than when he was talking to Emma in person. He still hasn’t said I love you. Even though Henry was safe in 3×10, he STILL didn’t say it, the writers didn’t give him a scene with Emma alone where he pulled her aside and said “I love you”. His fear is STILL more powerful than his belief in love when it comes to Emma.

Also I would like to mention the Timeless love promo that features Captain Swan along with other canon TL couples released in January, talking about how TL is timeless, transcends realms etc. Sometimes it really is that simple. Neal and Emma and some very sweet kisses in Tallahassee that could have been featured – but they weren’t. Again because that’s not the couple we’re supposed to be cheering for. Captain Swan weren’t actually that big then. We weren’t a big voice in the fandom then (heck I was only a lurker then) – at that stage SwanQueen was still drowning out any other ship.

Then there’s the Neal poster. Unfortunately, I have to agree with the SF folks on this one. The timing of the release of that poster doesn’t look for us. “Believe in second chances.” Everyone else had their poster released BEFORE their tagline came true. So it wouldn’t make sense for Neal’s tagline to refer to his relationship with Rumple. It seems like they are referring to a relationship with Emma.

First read this:

http://lady-silverblood.tumblr.com/post/69760990655/wait-some-people-are-actually-worrying-about

Secondly, Neal’s poster has been released at the END of the NL arc, which I feel makes it redundant to be quite honest. A more appropriate place to release it would have been BEFORE Dark Hollow, or BEFORE The New Neverland, IF his second chance is with Emma. I know that you may say “but maybe they didn’t want to *urine* off the CS shippers”. Well bear in mind that they have released it NOW, a mere 4 episodes after the “triangle” was established. So logically speaking they should have released it 4 episodes ago, when it was actually relevant to the NL arc, if it was relevant to Emma.

Thirdly, there are a number of options for his purposefully vague caption

1) His second chance with Rumple – he may have forgiven Rumple, but it’s only the first step. Just like Emma and the Charmings, there is a hell of a lot of issues to work through there. For example one is the fact that Rumple murdered his mother.

2) His second chance with the Darlings – Bae referred to them as his “real family” in 2×21

3) His second chance with someone else. The emphasis on second chance with regards to love this season has been with different people other than their first love – for Regina it’s Robin, for Hook it’s Emma

I feel like option 1 is the most likely for the moment. And I’m actually excited for some Neal character development.

And finally with regards to this point, I find it a bit rich that SF shippers are “omg Neal gets his second chance with Emma yay” because throughout the whole season so far they have been bashing Killian and calling him anything BUT a hero. Seems like a bit of a double standard that they ignore that Hook’s very specific tagline has come true and yet are interpreting a vague tagline for Neal to mean something for them. *shrugs*

What if that has nothing to do with them being emotional because they are telling each other how they feel about each other or being emotional because they realize they are going to be separated by the curse, but because they are emotional because Emma is telling him that she is choosing Neal?

Lol no. Not laughing at you but no.

If you look at his face in that scene, he looks VERY hopeful and also VERY much in love to me.

If you look at his face in that scene, and then compare it with his look of ABSOLUTE AGONY from Ariel when Emma was crossing the bridge to Neal (when he thought she and Neal were going to get back together), you will see that those are two VERY different expressions. IMO.

I hope I’ve addressed your worries somewhat to your satisfaction 😉

So when you think about all that, why, on God’s green earth, on a show about fairy tales and epic transcendent love, they would EVER pair Emma with Neal, the man who broke her heart, left her in an emotional prison for 11 years, was part of the reason she gave up her kid, left her with massive trust issues, exacerbated her abandonment issues, moved on from her, belittled her pain, had no faith in her, gave her no support and is selfish rather than selfless when it comes to her.

And when you consider that she is the product of True Love, the personification of True Love, she was born because her parents NEVER STOPPED FIGHTING FOR EACH OTHER, unlike Neal, the fact that JMo says that Emma “wants to find her own TL” ie. it hasn’t happened yet, the fact that JMo said that Emma has a flame of hope to FIND that love around Graham and Killian (and not Neal), Emma, who has been lost and broken for so long, Emma, who has NEVER been loved as she deserved, has NEVER been put first, has spent her whole life feeling like a “lost girl” and yet HAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CAPACITIES TO LOVE ON THIS SHOW

And then enter a pirate, who’s biggest motivation is love, has lost all of his love, who invented a persona because of this lost love, who immersed himself in revenge every time he has lost love, a man NOTHING can stop when it comes to loving someone, not time, not death, not worlds, not even his own darkness ie. HE HAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CAPACITIES FOR LOVE ON THIS SHOW and didn’t believe he could EVER find love again until he met Emma

SO I DON’T THINK it’s coincidence that we have two people who have the biggest capacities to love on the entire show and yet

ARE STARVING FOR IT

Like seriously. Killian is the only option for Emma and he for her.

I hope you feel better lol.

 

 

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@rumplegoldfan – I’m going to write a big massive post just for you lol, it’s probably going to take a while 🙂

 

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HAHAHA

love this

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