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Wow lots of great thoughts while I was asleep!!!! 🙂
@MysteryKat25 – you just put the @ sign next to the username. However I don’t think the names on the forum always match what’s on the login page – for instance here I’m CaptainEala and when I log in I’m captaineala. LolAnd you literally just copy and paste each gif into this box!!
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Sorry MysteryKat, will respond to your thoughts tomorrow, just had to leave this here before I go to sleep
http://captainswaan.tumblr.com/post/69627088541
NO BUT
COULD IT BE ANY MORE OBVIOUS
NO THEY AREN’T “FINE”
NEITHER OF THEM ARE REMOTELY “FINE”
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OMG I AM NOT OKAY
THE CS FANDOM IS ON FIRE RIGHT NOW SERIOUSLY
http://fyesemmaandhook.tumblr.com/post/69464285836/based-on-this-post
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@rumplegoldfan – look what I found on tumblr (via boyfriendhook), you were only JUST talking about this!
Imagery and why it’s important
This evening a little digging was done and two incredibly interesting facts were pulled from the history.
The first being the real man named Neal Cassady.
Cassady wasn’t just a petty criminal, charmer, car thief, bigamist and serial deserter. x
Cassady was arrested for receipt of stolen property, and served eleven months of a one-year prison sentence. x
Sound like a certain Neal Cassidy that we know of?
The next interesting fact pulled from the pages of history is that of Bonnie and Clyde’s “death car”, picture above. It was a yellow vehicle, much like the yellow bug Emma stole from Neal.
Neal:Why not? We’ve been on the road long enough. Maybe it’s time we retire the “Bonnie and Clyde” act. So I think… I think it’s time.
Now, with these two images floating around, the sketchy criminal named Neal Cassady and the mental image of Bonnie and Clyde shot to death in a car incredible similar to the car that Neal and Emma rode around in. Why am I supposed to want this to happen?
omg
this is how you NOTP
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Have you seen the SF speculation about the promo? That there is a new curse and Emma becomes some weird version of herself so she and Hook end up together but since it isn’t really her it doesn’t really “count” – or something along those lines???
LOL
The blatant ignorance of her feelings for him amuses me no end
Emma is an adult now, she has no reason to need to revisit that relationship – not even because she and Neal are Henry’s parents.
I think she needs to revisit it in order to OVERCOME it. Like I always say that Neal is the obstacle to CS, but I don’t mean a literal obstacle really. To me he is a physical representation all her self doubts, her pain, her belief that she’s unlovable, that she as “the saviour” can’t have happiness (because that’s what drove Neal and her parents to abandon her in the first place). He is a physical representation of her walls. And she will eventually overcome them.
And I feel like this episode just really showed that Killian is in no way the obstacle to SF – he backed off. So to me it just makes that crystal clear that even if Killian wasn’t around SF still wouldn’t be happening because……. Emma doesn’t want it to. That was made clear when she didn’t show up for their lunch. She could have shown up to talk to him regarding her uncertainties about Henry – their son for goodness sake – but it’s been made abundantly obvious that she doesn’t even trust him enough to do that. She knows that he’s never supported her and never believed in her. And she was AT THE DOCKS and (I’m 99% sure) seeking the person who ALWAYS supports her and believes in her.
Seriously guys we’re getting smacked in the face so hard with CS as TL that I’m surprised my face is still attached.
I have also spent hours pouring over old episodes finding all the CS clues from early episodes.
*shakes head*
The power of this ship is remarkable. I too have spent hours doing the same and also spent an utterly ridiculous amount of time voting for them in the PCAs. It turns grown ups into giggling fangirls(like I literally can’t believe how obsessed I am with a fictional couple???). I’m 24 on Sunday (PLEASE ADAM AND EDDY GIVE ME A PRESENT) and I am not actually doing anything for it, I will just be feverishly waiting for OUAT to start all day long.
Omg guys we’re going to be screaming/flailing/sobbing on Sunday, I think.
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And its funny that the CF statements you are relating back seem to diminish Emma and her capacity make a proper decision on her own… is she supposed to sit there while Neal and Hook decide her fate.
SO MUCH THIS
I mean, I guarantee that when Emma and Killian finally get together her decision will not be respected by SF shippers. Like it legitimately won’t.
When the sneak for the kiss came out it was like
“OMG MANIPULATION”
“OMG SHE’S NOT IN HER RIGHT MIND BECAUSE OF NEVERLAND”
“OMG SHE FELT OBLIGATED TO KISS HIM BECAUSE HE SAVED DAVID’S LIFE”
Complete denial of her agency and her choice as a character.
All I saw in 3×10 was a man allowing her to make a choice.
And a man who didn’t even consider that she HAS a choice.
One guess as to which is which.
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comes from the same logic that produces such gems as “Emma didn’t really want to kiss Hook he forced her
Oh ho, the sass is strong with you 😉
Yup up looks really forced to me! Clearly she’s not enjoying herself at all!
Stelio HOW COULD YOU POST THAT
I HAVE BEEN TRANSFIXED FOR THE LAST 3 MINUTES AT LEAST
But yes totally forced, he practically holding her down. And look, she’s protesting so loudly I mean she’s clearly trying to drag herself away from him.
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@rumplegoldfan – totally agree with everything you said!
And I’m not so narrow minded to think I will always necessarily be CS.
I am, and will always be, CS, because that is the relationship they’re developing, that is the relationship that has been foreshadowed since the pilot
And unless they do a hell of a lot of character development for Neal, give me reasons I can accept as to why he never came back for her (because since TL is the most powerful magic of all it should have been able to overcome fear like that’s just a LOGICAL CONCLUSION), stop him being selfish when it comes to their relationship, and use him to build her up and support her rather than tear her down and make her lose confidence in herself, there is no way I will ever accept a SF endgame.
That’s my opinion. It may make me childish. But I don’t like being duped.
Fortunately I have ZERO concerns on the score. LESS THAN ZERO.
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SF are trying to say that Neal asking Emma out is this huge deal because there wasn’t an immediate shot of Killian’s face.
LOL
Who are they trying to emphasize is the one who is depressed? And then we have an interaction between Emma and Hook based upon how Emma interpreted what she saw, yet we get NOTHING about the fact that Emma didn’t show up to Neal’s date??? That speaks volumes!
^^^^ You totally answered your own question hehehe.
Killian is visibly falling apart at even the NOTION that Emma may choose Neal over him. Because let’s not forget that he’s only giving them a chance. He’ll still be around. He’s “in it for the long haul”.
Neal on the other hand has already proven that he’s okay without Emma. Words by Adam Horowitz himself – “Neal moved on and was genuinely in love with Tamara”.
@Jennifer, I’d love to speculate with you, but honestly all those spoilers made my brain HURT and I want to avoid thinking about them until after 3×11 is over. So, I would love to speculate with you then!!! I just didn’t want you to think I was ignoring you 🙂
Can someone please help me understand why Hook is a scum for stepping back and allowing Henry’s parents to make a go of it for Henry??? Considering we have seen the back story where Hook dealt with this same issue with young Baelfire and clearly had immense guilt over it??? And how telling Neal that he isn’t sure that Emma will take him back since he already abandoned her once is setting Neal up to be run over by a bus??? So let me make sure I understand this. If Hook fights for Emma and she chooses him, Hook is a scum because he has broken up a family (a non-existent family because the parents were never married and the “father” abandoned the mother before he even knew she was pregnant and the mother then gave the child up for adoption so neither biological parent actually has any legal rights to the child any way). But if Hook steps back and Emma decides she doesn’t want Neal anyway and still chooses Hook, Hook is a scum because by stepping back he was somehow playing a game that was setting Neal up for failure because Emma wouldn’t choose him??? How exactly does he do this?? So basically if Emma doesn’t choose Neal and chooses Hook, it is only because of an inability to use to her own brain and make her own decisions – something she has never had any problem doing before on the history of the show. Because if Emma chooses Hook it couldn’t possibly be because she loves him??? But if Emma chooses Neal it is because she loves him and all is right with the world, there will be peace in the Middle East, and no child will ever go hungry again. Oh, and then Hook will have shown tremendous character growth for allowing a loving family to be together the way they should have been all along (we’ll just forget all about the above). I am super confused. I love my ship but if Emma chooses Neal – she chooses Neal. Short of Neal tying Hook up and leaving him for dead in the JR floating at sea or threatening to murder Henry if he doesn’t leave SB to get Hook out of the picture so he isn’t an option for her to choose anymore, I don’t see how someone could MAKE Emma choose one of them if she really loved the other.
I think we are all agreed that the other side are super illogical at times. I know I sound like an arrogant er…. “butt”hole but like I said… we’ll be vindicated soon enough.
I’m honestly just fed up with the irrational Hook-hatred. I mean, when you REALLY have to hate a character because he’s in love with someone, you know your own ship is in trouble. *shrugs*
Like, I can enjoy Neal as a character, and I want him to get his own development SO BADLY. I just can’t stand him with Emma.
I just think it’s hilarious that SFers (and SQers?) are talking about him being scum or whatever when they’re shipping him with Tink and Ariel when he’s supposedly not good enough for anyone.
We have legitimate reasons for not wanting Neal and Emma together, besides the presence of Killian.
The other side have no legitimate reasons besides hatred.
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There was nothing between them I think they had a fling and that is it and apparently Tink doesn’t want anything to do with Hook now that is her past.
Lol – thanks! 🙂
why didn’t we see Killian’s reaction to Neal asking Emma out on a date?
Oh ho, they could not be more wrong. What we saw was a VERY DRUNK KILLIAN, in HUGE emotional pain, looking for comfort and escape from his loneliness in Tink.
That is the reaction. And to be quite honest it was a huge one. Killian was spiraling out of control – just like we see when other TLs are apart.
And honestly, it’s quite hypocritical to go on about how the lack of pan to Killian’s face means something when, oh yeah, there were SEVERAL lack of pans to Neals face during CS moments.
SF fans are talking about how sad and depressed he looks.
I think Neal looked forlorn – but that isn’t the er… appropriate reaction to losing your TL. Snow took the memory loss potion. Charming was equally unhappy – he even cried when Snow told him she didn’t love him.
Emma and Killian were both absolutely miserable in this episode, the episode where Killian decided to back off from Emma. That tells me something.
Then you have Emma and Killian. And as far as far as I can tell they are all kinds of right together but as soon as they are apart they fall to pieces. They remind me more and more of Snowing every day just with more intense personalities.
^^^^^^^
And like everyone else, I am really hoping for some CF back story and non-Emma discussions as well. I did like the brief banter they had about Granny’s not serving rum and Hook hanging out with the dwarves.
Yeah me too 🙂
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