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CaptainEala
ParticipantOk.
I have been thinking about this from a (hopefully) unbiased, logical and realistic perspective.
So, from the PA’s perspective, someone is unhappy on the show.
This is not Colin. Every time Colin talks about his character, you can see that he loves Hook. His enthusiasm for Hook’s storyline shines out of his eyes in every interview. Colin is a very easygoing, down to earth guy according to the PA. He’s always messing around with the cast. To me, this doesn’t indicate unhappiness – this sounds like someone who comes to work every day looking forward to the day. Colin enjoys playing Hook, and has said he hopes to stay on the show as long as the fans want him.
From a financial perspective. the economy is VERY poor here in Ireland – a full time acting gig is like finding a needle in a haystack. No way would Colin just decide to up stakes to Vancouver from his HOME, move his wife and son, and then give up a full time job in a show because he’s unhappy. Nope. Can’t see it. Even if he IS unhappy (doubtful) he still has his family to think of.
In comparison, Neal has been a complete plot device this season, driving the plot while barely even DOING anything. I could see why MRJ would be unhappy with this. He has nearly completely withdrawn from his fans. The last interview he got as far as i’m aware was one where he said that “Emma doesn’t owe Neal anything”.
So as far as i’m concerned Colin can be scratched off the list for this, and MRJ is a big contender.
From Adam’s perspective, the death has been planned and it isn’t because someone is unhappy.
If this is the case, and it’s Colin leaving, the INTENSE promotion of Captain Hook and Captain Swan has all been for nothing. I just can’t see that they would do that. It would literally ALIENATE an audience to pull the rug out from under them like that. To be honest I watch the show these days mostly because of CS – i’m THAT emotionally invested in them. That and the plot holes and deus ex machina in the show annoy me a lot. Anyway, i’m pretty sure they would lose a large CHUNK of their audience. The fanbase for Hook is huge. For instance Nasty Habits – a predominantly Neal episode – the promotion for that only got 35k likes on FB. And Good Form – a predominantly Hook episode – got 125k likes. That is a HUGE difference.
“But Hook has no ties to the rest of the characters, Hook is going to be a hero and sacrifice himself!”
No lol. For one thing his Happy Ending is very closely tied to Emma – that was shown in 3×01. The show is all about hope and redemption – and most of the relationships that are focused on in the show are those of the villains. Anyway, Hook is tied to Emma and to a lesser extent Charming. Not at all to the rest of them.
The lack of ties to the rest of the characters make it EVEN LESS LIKELY that Hook is the one who dies. Because when you kill off a major character?? You want it to have the BIGGEST EMOTIONAL EFFECT on the characters as possible. You want it to drive the plot forward. And honestly, while Emma and Charming would both feel terrible at the death of Hook, it would have NO RAMIFICATIONS TO THEIR STORYLINES (except that obviously from my perspective Emma wouldn’t get her happy ending lol). It would resolve NOTHING between Emma and Neal. Emma will still have the wall of pain there. Hook dying literally serves NO purpose. If they wanted to use it to resolve the triangle that SFers are so convinced exists? Then a better way to do it would be to just have Hook sail off into the sunset, to chose “not to steal Neal’s girl”. That way you haven’t alienated the huge fanbase that is the Hookers, and there is still hope that Hook would return.
Neal however. Most fans have NO EMOTIONAL CONNECTION to Neal. They haven’t helped that this season – no focus is placed on his emotional reaction to ANYTHING. He’s been pretty darn useless most of the time. He didn’t get any real promotion with regards to “the triangle”. MRJ has withdrawn from his fans – it could be because he’s unhappy with the hatred, or it could be because he was told to do so.
HOWEVER, Neal has a lot of ties with the rest of the characters. The death of Neal would affect Rumple, Belle, Hook, Emma, Henry, by extension Regina, by extension Robin Hood. It would have HUGE ramifications for the storyline, while also keeping most of the fanbase intact and happy(sorry if any SFers are reading this).
So honestly, logically, Neal is the only one that makes sense to me.
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CaptainEala
ParticipantPs. Eala I think we could all use some extra smoochies today
WILL DO 😉 i think you’re right lol
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CaptainEala
ParticipantI’ve been thinking about this all morning – without the ball of initial anxiety in my stomach lol – and will be posting some additional thoughts as soon as i get set up in work 🙂
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CaptainEala
Participantguess those happy spoilers we got earlier come with a price…
Yeah.
Super depressed about this ngl. It’s not Killian but… this is a show about Happy Endings. And someone (99% Neal) won’t be getting one.
Ugh I’m going to bed, I’m gunna have a crappy nights sleep as it is.
Stupid tv show ruining my life lol
Night!
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CaptainEala
ParticipantYeah. It’s sad because everyone is saying they want it to be Hook. I don’t want it to be ANYBODY. Ugh. This is going to dominate the forums for a good week at least… WE NEED HAPPY SPOILERS NOW PLEASE
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CaptainEala
ParticipantStelio Kontos wrote: Apparently MRJ stopped doing his “AskMRJ” thing and has generally been receiving a lot of negative tweets from fans maybe he got fed up?
I didn’t know that. I follow all the cast but wow, then I think it’s him.
Ugh. Yeah. Although everyone else gets their fare share of hate too *shrugs* look it’s not Killian, that’s all that matters. It makes no logical sense from Colin’s standpoint, or the way they’ve been promoting Hook/CS lately.
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CaptainEala
ParticipantOkay this stupid hiatus has done nothing but give me high blood pressure. And now this! ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!! Why in Gods name would they release a spoiler of this magnitude now???! They probably had no choice given that the PA on set already leaked it last week, but still, why do this now? Now I have rapid heart palpitations to go with my blood pressure. I’m going off to calm down.
Yeah it’s pretty cruel, something we didn’t need uuuuugh.
I think we’re all a bit apprehensive but 99% sure it’s not Colin leaving. Pretty sure it’s MRJ. They’ve been promoting the heck out of Colin and basically saying CS is essential to 3B… and Neal has gotten zero promotion. The wind is blowing a certain way.
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CaptainEala
ParticipantYeah. It’s just sad. It was such a good day for spoilers and then this. I don’t want ANYONE to die.
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CaptainEala
ParticipantGreat post on the spoiler from lady-silverblood
Yeah. I’m pretty much 99% sure it’s Neal.
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CaptainEala
ParticipantExactly.
CSers have been going on and on about Neal being a plot device this season. This “event” might actually give him a real arc. It’s sad, but I’d rather him than Killian.
*sigh* this is going to tear the fandom apart even MORE
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