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@NONNIE wrote:
Wouldn’t they leave some of the door indistinct so could use them for the future for new or different stories. When you see the view from above the area is circular and there seems like a bunch of doors we have no way of knowing where they lead….. I think that is why the doors we know the stories to are all linked and close together.
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You mentioned the circular room; perhaps the doors they show in the shot when Jefferson and Regina enter that room before going into Wonderland are only just some of the doors. There may just be other doors that are there and we cannot see because they aren’t shown.
[adrotate group="5"]@Possum Snoodle wrote:
Fun thought:
I believe a “Realm Jumper” may refer to Jefferson’s trade or ability and maybe, Realm Jumpers all wear hats and each Jumpers’ travels are different thus different doors. It would give an fun twist to the old phrase, “keep this secret under your hat.” Perhaps, hat sizes also indicate their ability/rank. Not every door will appear in every Jumper’s hat thus the doors in Jefferson’s hat are the one’s he has been to or been granted access to.When I first saw the hat used as a portal, I was immediately reminded of the old Krofft show, LIDSVILLE. Except, instead of tumbling directly into the destination, we find a room of doors within the hat much like a train roundhouse or airport concourse with its multiple gates.
It is quite obvious, the doors are all different so as to suggest they lead to other Realms. I immediately thought, “oh, that door must go to..here….that door to there….,” etc., and I believe we are all correct in thinking this is the case. My initial thoughts, based on the visual clues of the doors were:
OZ – the “man behind the green curtain” and what looks like the Z in the O indication on the curtain.
Gothic Realm – one of the heavy stone doors maybe w/ the architectural peak in the door shape
Nightmares – again, a stone door but a different place than Gothic
Camelot or Sherwood Forest– the wooden door with stone
Egyptian Mythos – the door with what looks like hieroglyphs
Tales of The Orient – the very red door but maybe not all Asian legends under one Realm/Dynasty
World of Pure Imagination – Wonkavator looking door – it seemed so obvious to me…I love WW. If not that, it’s Virtual Worlds of some sort, like WofW, Second Life, Tron.
Earth – the Storybrooke or Kansas portal, the “All-American” house door.
Atlantis or Faery Realm – the blue door.
Asgard, Valhalla – maybe one of the stone doors…and I had to wonder if some doors may lead to Realms in reference to: Sanskrit, Arabian Knights, Native American, and almost every sort of legend and story from every culture, known and unknown to us. I do love the idea we may see cross-over characters who may have dual or multiple identities like, who did Alice become after becoming a Queen in Wonderland or Dorothy, after she was Queen in Oz, the Tin Man, after ruling as Emperor of WinkieLand…and so on. If Time is also able to be altered or bent, we get really bizarre possibilities, like, The Hatter/Jefferson could also be Bae, who is also The Wizard and maybe “the desperate man,” Zoso – and even Henry’s Father; endless twists!
I like the idea of realm jumpers. Emma is probably a realm jumper; which can explain why Henry said that she was the only one that can do it and Jefferson saying she has magic by forcing her to make a hat for him.
No they are already connected by having Rumple just being in the story. Things are already complex enough. To me this can potentially be a shark jump. I cannot go along with this.
@hjbau wrote:
So you are agreeing with me then? I don’t get what you are saying. If Rumpel was mortally wounded then the kiss shouldn’t work or it seems contrived to me. That is what i was saying.
It will change him back to human form but it is not going to bring him back from the dead. The only reason Charming is not dead was the curse was happening. He was not quite dead; hence him being comatose in SB. Daniel he was deader than a doornail nor was he cursed at all as was Graham dying as Emma was kissing him. Graham and Daniel are very similiar situations they both had death knocking on their doors. Magic and curses can’t kill people otherwise Snow White and Sleeping Beauty both will be dead. If you can curse someone to death why did not Maleficent nor Regina curse everyone in their way to death?? Magic and curses can’t make people fall in love otherwise Snow would not have gone through Angry Snow phase. Yes Rumple bottled hairs of Snow and Charming but all he said was he was bottling true love or love potion. He never said it could make someone fall in love with another. These are the rules they outlined and enacted as well as demonstrated.
How is Baelfire being Henry’s father going to benefit the whole story?? How is this going to make this show that much greater?? I do not like this idea. not at all….
Why does everyone feel the need to want Baelfire to be Henry’s father? Rumple cares for his family and does not harm to his family. If Rumple is related to Henry by causing any harm to anyone associated to Henry is causing harm to his family. He said it himself that family is important. He has no qualms about using Emma, Mary Margaret and David as pawns so causing them grief is indirectly causing Henry grief which means causing harm to family. No. Baelfire went into that “worm hole” and it glowed green. The “worm hole” that sent FTL people to SB was darl and purplish. If anything I’d guess that Oz is where bae could be.
@Lissy wrote:
Emma also said that Henry’s father was a fireman. Maybe this a play on Baelfire’s name. The names in Storybrooke always play on the identities of their fairytale counterparts.
Good idea Beauty & the Beast! The writers said in an interview that they take names into great consideration.
No he wasn’t she lied to him. She never told him the truth of his father. He was no one special.
@hjbau wrote:
Why must he know? There is no need for Rumpel to know anything for him to get Henry. It may be Emma that sends Henry to Maine. I am still hoping for that. I would much rather it be someone else then Rumpel.
And if like you are saying Rumpel has his memories then he would get Henry because he is Emma’s son. There is no reason for him to know who the father is. Why would he care? Though i don’t think that Rumpel knew always. Though i should just assume it is the obvious and Rumpel and not because of Emma that Henry found his way back to Storybrooke.
So it was just an unlucky coincidence he got Henry for Regina and Emma comes to town to undo everything? When in Rumple’s life was there ever an unlucky coincidence before or after he became the dark one. That would negate his ability of foresight which allowed him to always be one step ahead of every single person he has encountered. Look either he knew about Henry being Bae’s son and he planned it all or Henry’s father is just some random deadbeat and it was to get Emma here. You can’t have it both ways and they cannot at this point without any confirmation be the same. Where is the proof or remote proof to Bae being Henry’s dad other than the age can match and him possibly being in this world. That is what this theory is based on and the rest is “wishful thinking”. If Bae is Henry’s Dad or anyone hopes for that it is like hoping this show jumps the shark and I do not want that. It does not add up for Bae to be Henry’s dad and makes no sense for that to be remotely possible at this point at least.
@hjbau wrote:
I don’t know. Both Snow and Regina tried to kiss their loves when they were dead or dying and it didn’t work so i hope they don’t make the exception for Rumpel.
Snow kissed Charming after he was mortally wounded and curse enacted and Regina kissed Daniel after his heart was ripped out. The kisses between Snow and Charming that did work were the after he was shot by an arrow and the magical one that wakes her; both mind you when a spell was casted not after a wounding.
@hjbau wrote:
Even if Henry is Bae’s son, i do not think Rumpel knows that.
Why would he procure Henry for Regina? which would bring Emma to SB and cause him to bury the dagger when she arrived? The very fact that Rumple/ Gold doesn’t know Henry is Bae’s son debunks the theory itself. In order for the theory to work he must know.
