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a lot works with that theory however, Lewis Carroll was not his real name but a pseudonym. The Brother Grimm have a closer relationship the the stories in the book than Lewis Carroll. Grimms are repsonsible for the Snow White, Hansel and Gretel, Rumplestilskin, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Rapuzel and The Frog Prince. August does not fit either Grimm. What’s true is that he wears purple suggesting royalty as does his first name. The Knight part fits because he does say he does not lie—chivalry. The writer was confirmed by himself but the last part is the only part that does not quite fit right.
[adrotate group="5"]A knight is bound by chivalry, so by him saying he doesn’t lie epsecially to a lady such as Emma, who is a Princess. Her mother Snow White daughter of King Leopold and Prince Charming “adopted” son of King George. He is protective of the book and does appear to have restored it, perhaps those missing pages.
@Lissy wrote:
Since Rumpel takes on two different personas (Beast and Rumpel) I wonder which story line the writers are going to follow when it comes down to the end of the series. This is how the two original grim stories end….
Rumpel = Rumpelstiltskin “in his rage drove his right foot so far into the ground that it sank in up to his waist; then in a passion he seized the left foot with both hands and tore himself in two.” Other versions have Rumpelstiltskin driving his right foot so far into the ground that he creates a chasm and falls into it, never to be seen again. In the oral version originally collected by the brothers Grimm, Rumpelstiltskin flies out of the window on a cooking ladle.
Beast = His curse is broken by Belle’s true love kiss and they live happily ever after.
Rumpels story is quite gruesome…I hope that doesn’t happen! I know the writers always tweak stories, but it seems like they take a similar path. Maybe it will be a mixture of both?
I understand what you are saying but is Rumple taking on the persona of the beast or is his character replacing the beast. The same can be said of the cinderella story except he replaced her with himself by killing her and then granting her wish with stipulations. there is an apples to oranges argument here but in the Beauty in the Beast case they simply inserted Rumple instead of introducing a whole new character. The beast and Rumple are one and the same to me in this case. Red was a character who took on the persona of the wolf simply because she was the wolf and so was Granny.
@hjbau wrote:
The book is another reason i don’t understand how he could be Pinocchio. How would Pinocchio know what is in the book to add to it? How would anyone know the stories that are in the book?
with respect to the book we are confusing two things; the author of the stories and the one who puts the stories together into book form. Call the book anthology of stories written by other people. Like a musian with an album of cover songs. He did not write the songs but plays them, well the compiler of the stories did not write the stories he simply put it together into one volume. I think that there are many authors to these stories and even if there is one; August was the one to put it all together into that one volume. He was seen doing something to it and who knows what he did to it because there is not clear confirmation of it.
Remember now there are 4 queens in the Alice stories (Wonderland and thru the Looking Glass). Queens’ of Hearts, White and Red. One of them ended up being Alice herself. Alice at the end of Looking Glass was crowned queen after reaching the eight rank and checkmating the red king.
With respect to Regina and Jefferson being siblings or half-siblings other than there was an existance of a prior relationship there is not much evidence to come to a definite conclusion. Plausible but the jury is still out on that one. There was no suggestion other than the way Regina was treated that Cora had any other children. The jury’s out on that one too yet plausible. There is a connection to Cora, Regina, Jefferson, Henry, the Queen of Hearts and yes even throw in Rumple because that guy has his hands in everybody’s business.
@hjbau wrote:
I really like the scene where Emma and Mary meet for the first time. Mary just keeps looking at her at first and hesitating like they connect right away, but Mary doesn’t know what it is about.
Yes and everytime since then until Emma moved in Mary Margaret has looked at her like that. Almost as if a mom seeing a long lost daughter for the first time. Since she has become mousy in a good way because ot the curse is afraid to confront her about how she actually thinks and feels. That I think is the key to her overcoming the curse; she needs to say to Emma, “do you think I’m your mother or do you think you are my daughter?” Something along those lines and that needs to happen between Emma and David too. Mommy and Daddy issues need to be rectified between the three. David believe it or not is in my opinion much further along than anyone else in SB other than Kath who’s fate is yet unknown with repsect to her mental state that is.
Look, yes Rumple is in control of Storybrooke but everyone in SB thinks its Regina. She is just a pawn in Gold’s plan whatever it is. Like everyone else he comes across or rather comes to him need something and gives nothing in return unless the benefit favors him whether it be now or later. Everyone is a pawn who come to him for help and are indebted to him. Everyone will blame Regina for all of the bad things that will come about and not realizing that Gold is the real enemy or not. Belle is his weakness Regina holds onto her because she is her nuclear option for fighting Gold. With respect to belle either in FTL or SB it appears Rumple/Gold loses it and in a bad way. she means a lot to him and most likely regrets everything that transpired between the two of them. Belle is the key to Gold/Rumple. She will become more in important in the future than we realize. I call that she’ll be a regular or at least see her often enought in season 2.
@hjbau wrote:
I think it would be interesting to see Red’s cloak be from Rumpel. The could have an episode where Red is 13 and Granny goes to Rumpel.
Granny said she got it from a wizard. Unless it has something to do with the wizard’s hat in the background in Skin Deep and using the wand acquired from the fairy he killed I do not think he is at all a wizard type of magic user.
@hjbau wrote:
I agree that most of the hints seem to point to Pinocchio which is why i keep saying he isn’t Pinocchio. There just seems to be too many lines that point that way. I think that Bae is most likely as of now, but i am still hoping he is someone else.
I can agree he is Pinnochio but he has a connection to the book, Emma and Henry. His role will be as protector and guardian. He is to ensure that the savior does her job and to ensure the safety of the book; to me the key to magic in Storybrooke via Emma. He did do something to the book; whether it be add, subtract or restore the book. He seems to mbe helping Emma by telling her to look from the beginning of the investigation but with different eyes; with respect to Kath. He’s also taken a liking to Henry saying to him he needs and wants to help Emma believe and he himself believes in the stories in the book. He does value the book.
@Surayya wrote:
@charming wrote:
Ok. Timeout. Parenting issues aside and custody issues aside. Back to Operation Cobra. We can deal with Operation Single Mom v. Married Mom and Operation Birth Mom v. Adoptive Mom another time. What till they actually have a custody battle and we’ll revisit this. Right now everyone in Storybrooke does not know who they are so the last thing on their minds is who gets what rather who am I?
Lol – well said.
My only comment is Lana Parrilla has said that Regina does indeed love Henry- I think its much like the other things Regina/EQ loves tho, if it comes down to her perceived happiness, her love will come off 2nd best.Jennifer Morrison has stated that Emma stayed in SB because the thought that she made the wrong decision by/for Henry is killing her & she couldnt leave until she knows he is safe & happy.
Personally i dont think she’s ready to be a full on parent just yet- but oats, how many 28yr olds who dont have kids let-a-lone have had 0 ties to family nor children most her life, are ready to be parents right off the bat, even 1st time parents dont get it right, right away either- parenting can & usually is a, it takes time & practice thing for most 🙂
I do think we are seeing Emma slowly become more parent like as the season has gone on. 🙂 (Henry’s lone adventures i dont really think can be held against Regina to much, as after all SB was frozen in time with 0 visitors for the last 28yrs, which pretty much rules out kidnap, stranger danger & typical modern-day concerns for kids out alone at any time – in NZ we still have places where kids & teens still walk home at night in the dark by themselves, sure its no longer common & becoming less, less as crime etc increases but it does happen, same with kids walking up to the local ‘shopping center’ – which looks much like SB’s lol- alone).You can tell that Henry comes from Emma who comes from snow and Charming. It does not take much to please him. He just wants to love feel it back, as Emma does that is why those are the same peas in the pot. Gold said in earlier episodes to Regina, “I saw them walking down the street together thick as thieves.” In a lot of ways Emma and Mary Margaret have that too. Rewatch the frist three episodes whenever they see each other, especially the first time; the look in MM’s eyes. That look I’m refering to in the next 2 episodes happens almost everytime they see each other until they starting living together. Which reminds me of that scene where Emma asks if her spare room was still available that is like a typical mother daughter moment. A daughter who has not scene her mother in years knocks on a door and asks if she can stay with her. The way MM answered is almost the same as a mother would.
