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If Eduardo Castro is apprehensive about showing cleavage, then it makes me slightly freaked out as to what Adam and Eddy think about when they have female villains… 😐
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Both mid-season returns for S3 and S4 have used Bruce Springsteen as a reference.
I think it’s pretty clear: Bruce Springsteen is the villain for 4B! 😛
In all seriousness, I’m more excited for the Maleficent arc then I was for Frozen. Yes, there was also a recent movie and Mal was confirmed dead, but it doesn’t feel as forced as Frozen, which was basically screaming, “WILL GIVE FROZEN FOR RATINGS!”
Guess we’ll have to see how everything pays off. I’m still hoping for a satisfying conclusion in 4×11, since the Frozen arc is essentially destroying out characters.
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY WATCHER!!!
May your randomness spread throughout the forums, the Once Writer’s Room, and (eventually) the world!
#Watcher2016
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After rewatching this episode, I’ve come to a firm conclusion: whether or not people like this episode depends on their stance of a.) what’s going on with certain plot threads and b.) how they stand on separate issues.
Having said that, let me go into what I’m taking away and my analysis of that.
1. Rumple wants to take over the world. I have problems with this because, well, he has had that ability before. Rumple has been in many different realms, possessing all his glorious, convenient-for-the-plot power. He knows EVERYONE. He has made deals that have given him influence over certain situations. If he wanted to take over a realm, HE COULD’VE DONE SO. What makes this one, one that he was so terrified of navigating (re: 2×13, “Tiny,”), so different? The creators have said that Rumple’s motivations are inspired by Zelena controlling him last season. While I can see where he’s coming from, that should tie into one of his core traits: self-preservation. I’m sure President Obama and Taylor Swift can’t help him with that, so I don’t know what angle they could take with this without it destroying Rumple’s character completely unless he’s doing this to resurrect Neal. I am, however, keeping an open mind that Ingrid was lying, but knowing how this show loves to have other characters explain someone’s motivations (re: 3×18, “Bleeding Through,” 4×06, “Family Business,”), it isn’t unprecedented to take what she says at face value.
2. Seeing Aurora back made me wonder: when are we ever going to find out how Philip returned? I mean, the creators have confirmed he’s still alive (after the Monkey Massacre); he’s been prominent in a number of episodes; and he is the father of Philip Jr. This isn’t a plot thread you leave hanging!
3. “Jack gets a gender swap! Alex gets a gender swap! EVERYBODY GETS A GENDER SWAP!”
<li>The Rock Trolls have become the new magic beans. They are there for convenience to the plot, and it gives the writers an excuse to beat the living heck out of the lost memories trope. “Oh, the Rock Trolls just took the memories of an entire kingdom. No big deal. RATINGS.”
<li>Will Scarlet. You’re in my top five characters in the Onceiverse. I don’t want that to change because of a retconned WL ending, so don’t make it so by giving out horrible advice. I would never ruin my life and my future over a woman. Would I make sacrifices for a woman that I loved? Of course! I’d do anything for her! With that said, I wouldn’t let everything around me fall apart because of my love for her.4. Outlaw Queen is a tricky subject. On my bus ride home, I was contemplating how Robin must feel, looking at it from a male’s perspective. His dead wife just popped into his life again, right when things were going well with Regina. He decided to uphold his honor and leave Regina for Marian which, even in the eyes of Regina, was the right thing to do. This I’m fine with, which leads me into the whole True Love’s Kiss debacle.
With TLK, it works on only one person: your True Love. My understanding of True Love (in the show’s mythology) is that you love that person wholeheartedly. If you have an interest in another person (legitimately, not a faux relationship between David and Kathryn), then the original “love” isn’t your TL. In Robin’s case, Marian cannot be his TL because he has professed a love for Regina. Was she his TL once? Yes, that was shown. But, after she died and he mourned, he moved past that. Now, faced with the Mariansicle, Robin Hood can’t kiss her because she is no longer his True Love.
What I’m annoyed about is how Robin Hood is handling this situation. First, he starts to stalk Regina like there’s no tomorrow. Then, after being reminded by Will about his values and how Marian made him see the light AND being asked by Regina to leave her alone (heck, she was even talking about how she would move on!), he ignores all that and starts to make out with Regina. Heck, she could’ve filed a sexual harassment suit because of that!
All in all, this episode wasn’t the best. Not my least favorite this season (that goes to the premiere, which is usually one of my favorite episodes during the season), but certainly not the best. To be fair, though, I do like Elizabeth Mitchell’s portrayal of the Snow Queen. The character, not so much.
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Curella is….Hook’s mom! No, no hear me out. Cruella and Mal are SISTERS. Remember, Hook knows Mal…but we don’t know how he knows her. We also don’t know anything about Hook’s mother, only that he had a father who left him. So now Cruella and her sister Mal (Hook’s aunt) have come back to town so that Cruella can apologize and make amends with Hook but it all goes wrong when Henry gets a new puppy and Cruella decides that SHE MUST HAVE THAT PUPPY. Hook, then, is Savior-of-Puppies and fights his mom (and Dragon Aunt) in order to ensure that Henry gets to keep his puppy.
BAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
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How will she be related to Henry?!
She’ll be the previous owner of the new Dalmatian he’ll get in 4B! 😀
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I always pictured Emma Thompson to be a great actress for Cruella De Vil, especially since she could play snarky (see Saving Mr. Banks). With her eccentric attitude both on and off the screen, she would be an amazing Cruella.
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Here are my thoughts for Cruella, from her main post.
Okay, I have mixed feelings about this…
On one hand, I’ve always thought that Cruella De Vil could be a formidable foe for our Heroes and Villains (yes, that was a 4×11 pun). She’s a woman who doesn’t have magic, and uses her coniving wits to achieve her malicious goals. I find that sort of thing intriguing.On the other, I really am getting tired of the structuring of this season. The first half was the “GIVE US RATINGS AND WE’LL GIVE YOU FROZEN 2: THE TV VERSION,” which while somewhat-memorable (I’m particularly fond of the CGI for Pabbie and the casting, plus the psychotic nature of the Snow Queen), has led to the complete essence of some of our favorite characters (Emma, Rumple, Regina, Snow, even Henry!) to be completely destroyed in favor of promoting their self-proclaimed “most expensive fan-fiction ever.
Now, with two new (and somewhat old) villainesses and possibly a third one on the way, we’ll have to balance screen time between them, our core characters, former guest stars, and possibly some remaining Frozen characters. THEN we have to find the author of the book.
I find this annoying, as it seems like A&E always have giddy smiles on their faces while apparently oblivious to the fact that they’ve reached their saturation point (in my opinion, 3×11). They’ve gone and a.) retconned many plot points b.) broken rules established in the first season then tried to reinforce those rules afterwards and c.) have destroyed characters and character arcs in favor of blatant fan service and for the sake of their plots. As a writer, this is unjust both to the fans, the actors, and (arguably most importantly) the beloved characters.
Now, to tie this back, while I’m happy that a villainess that I’ve appreciated is coming to show, I’m unhappy in the manner of which she’s coming. With so many characters, when are we going to get to the point when enough is enough, and we finally get our main, non-recent movie characters back in the forefront of the action?
They could do all this, but they can’t bring back Neal. Ever. Just so they can say they finally killed a character that stayed dead. I mean, even half the villains came back to life!
*sigh* This show discourages me from writing at times, as they manage to ruin classic characters for the sake of introducing OTHER classic characters. What sense does that make?!
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Okay, I have mixed feelings about this…
On one hand, I’ve always thought that Cruella De Vil could be a formidable foe for our Heroes and Villains (yes, that was a 4×11 pun). She’s a woman who doesn’t have magic, and uses her coniving wits to achieve her malicious goals. I find that sort of thing intriguing.
On the other, I really am getting tired of the structuring of this season. The first half was the “GIVE US RATINGS AND WE’LL GIVE YOU FROZEN 2: THE TV VERSION,” which while somewhat-memorable (I’m particularly fond of the CGI for Pabbie and the casting, plus the psychotic nature of the Snow Queen), has led to the complete essence of some of our favorite characters (Emma, Rumple, Regina, Snow, even Henry!) to be completely destroyed in favor of promoting their self-proclaimed “most expensive fan-fiction ever.”
Now, with two new (and somewhat old) villainesses and possibly a third one on the way, we’ll have to balance screen time between them, our core characters, former guest stars, and possibly some remaining Frozen characters. THEN we have to find the author of the book.
I find this annoying, as it seems like A&E always have giddy smiles on their faces while apparently oblivious to the fact that they’ve reached their saturation point (in my opinion, 3×11). They’ve gone and a.) retconned many plot points b.) broken rules established in the first season then tried to reinforce those rules afterwards and c.) have destroyed characters and character arcs in favor of blatant fan service and for the sake of their plots. As a writer, this is unjust both to the fans, the actors, and (arguably most importantly) the beloved characters.
Now, to tie this back, while I’m happy that a villainess that I’ve appreciated is coming to show, I’m unhappy in the manner of which she’s coming. With so many characters, when are we going to get to the point when enough is enough, and we finally get our main, non-recent movie characters back in the forefront of the action?
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Isnt Morgana also a fairy? What if she is Black Fairy?
I still don’t think we’re getting her. I don’t even think A&E expected her to get so much attention (which is sad on them, but whatever).
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